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June 14, 2009 at
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I thought once a driver takes the green flag for an A-Main he would get paid. My nephew ran with the Midwest All Stars last night at Carmago IL. He finished 2nd in his heat race. I was not there but was told he got into the wall on lap one on the front stretch in the A-Main. His night was done. Rear clip destroyed, Rotor destroyed, The rear end has to go to a shop to be looked at. This is his first season and he is eager to race and getting good. This was his third A-Main of the season. So after a 5 hour tow he was told he would not be paid because he did not complete a full lap. the races I go to you take the green and you get paid. What a bummer.....
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June 14, 2009 at
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I feel bad for them, but I can see where this thread is going...... after all, we're talking about the MESS series here.......
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June 14, 2009 at
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My question on this is if this series treats it's drivers and race tracks the way they do how come they are still in business? Just the controversy and politics that surround this business if I was a track owner would hang up as soon as I answered the phone. But they still keep putting on race's and drawing people in? What's up with this?
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June 14, 2009 at
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The last page of the allstar rule book says it all -
Situations may arise that are not precisely covered in this Rule Book. All rulings and interpretations of the rules included herein will be made by All Star officials and these judgments will be final.
There ya go. Sounds like an excuse not to pay somebody. I been goin to races for a long time and if a car takes a green flag he gets scored in last place. If he gets SCORED in last place he damn sure should be paid the last place money. No wonder so many people complain about the MASS deal.
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June 14, 2009 at
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June 14, 2009 at
11:05:56 PM by filtalr
There's been talk of late in NASCAR about "start and park" racers. I commend the highly innovative MASS organization on taking a pro-active stance on curbing the trend of "start and crash" racers.
Phil Taylor
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June 14, 2009 at
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Posted By: filtalr on June 14 2009 at 11:04:01 PM
There's been talk of late in NASCAR about "start and park" racers. I commend the highly innovative MASS organization on taking a pro-active stance on curbing the trend of "start and crash" racers.
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This guy did not start and park, he wrecked you idiot. Get your head out of Webbs ass, he might break your neck if he turns quickly.
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June 15, 2009 at
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If first alternate came on and ran the main you shouldn't get paid ..otherwise you should IMO sorry you crashed,good luck
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June 15, 2009 at
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Posted By: topend811 on June 14 2009 at 11:59:09 PM
This guy did not start and park, he wrecked you idiot. Get your head out of Webbs ass, he might break your neck if he turns quickly.
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Apparently you did not catch the intended sarcasm.... Re-read my post.... carefully....
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June 15, 2009 at
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Posted By: race88 on June 15 2009 at 12:06:45 AM
If first alternate came on and ran the main you shouldn't get paid ..otherwise you should IMO sorry you crashed,good luck
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There were only 17 cars ... doubt there was an alternate ...
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June 15, 2009 at
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My question is why is MASS such a MESS?
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June 15, 2009 at
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Posted By: from a sponsor on June 15 2009 at 10:37:38 AM
My question is why is MASS such a MESS?
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Be carefull of voicing your opinions about the MESS. The moderators will lock the post cuz they don't want anybody bad mouthing Webb. Guess the truth hurts
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June 15, 2009 at
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Midwest All Stars, what a bunch off bull sh*t, the man started the race pay him. When you owe someone pay them or fold if you can't afford it.
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June 15, 2009 at
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Where's Katitch with his smoke and mirrors to smooth things over when you need him?
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June 15, 2009 at
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Posted By: cajunis#1 on June 15 2009 at 02:12:53 PM
Be carefull of voicing your opinions about the MESS. The moderators will lock the post cuz they don't want anybody bad mouthing Webb. Guess the truth hurts
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BAM!!!!
just what I was about to say lol.
Webb and Katich are pretty handy with the phone - today is probably no exception....
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June 15, 2009 at
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Well,
I E-mailed Webb and have yet to get a reply..............
Thanks for the support on this guys. I was able to make my point on the situation.
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June 15, 2009 at
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Did he get paid anything for the night?
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June 15, 2009 at
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No he did not. All he got was dumped to the wall at the start.
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June 15, 2009 at
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did the car that dumped him into the wall get paid?
this pay policy is a CROCK OF CRAP, imo.
Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
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June 15, 2009 at
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Yes he did, Along with everyone else.
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June 15, 2009 at
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Posted By: Gunner on June 14 2009 at 09:52:32 PM
I thought once a driver takes the green flag for an A-Main he would get paid. My nephew ran with the Midwest All Stars last night at Carmago IL. He finished 2nd in his heat race. I was not there but was told he got into the wall on lap one on the front stretch in the A-Main. His night was done. Rear clip destroyed, Rotor destroyed, The rear end has to go to a shop to be looked at. This is his first season and he is eager to race and getting good. This was his third A-Main of the season. So after a 5 hour tow he was told he would not be paid because he did not complete a full lap. the races I go to you take the green and you get paid. What a bummer.....
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Okay, I do not entertain this, it actually entertains me. This is my first and hopefully last post. I told Mr. Vanda-mere that I would hold his check until I had confirmation on the rule "You must complete one lap under Green of the A main to get your pay ". And since he BARELY took the green, I needed to make sure that I was correct on the rule and was unable to do so at the time. Then I told him if he was or WASN'T eligible that I would make sure he was compensated for his drive and efforts. Now, his Uncle, must not of gotten the full story and I am debating whether to mail the check or not. If he is reading this he needs to find my number and call me.
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