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Ok, I havent seen it mentioned yet, so I will be the first to ask. What was his tirade all about? I didnt see what happened to him, just saw him sitting off the end of the track, they threw the yellow, and when they pushed him back off he flew around and locked up the brakes right at the start/finish line, jumped out and just started letting the officials have it. I am just wondering what it was all about.

Also Kenny Butler Jr was a little mad, and rightfully so IMO. I wont go into details on this one as I saw it and think he had every right to be upset. If you saw his front wheel than you would probably agree.

Robert Sellers ran over something on the track and the right rear was going down on him at the end. It was completely flat when he got off the track in the end. That is the cause for him losing a couple of spots the last few laps.

Peters wreck was a hard one right in front of where I was sitting and watching at. I actually took a good size mud clod to the top of the noggin. (it might have been a part, hard to tell as hard as my head is) I really dont think Tyler Johnson could be blamed for that one, he just hit the rut and lost it right into Mike. Mike tried to stand on the throttle to save it, not realizing his drag link was broke and he had no steering. (that explains why he was still on the throttle when he hit the wall)

Butler Sr.s 2-barrel car had the inner brake rotor and caliper catch on fire, and ultimately caught the tank on fire. Sellers did not even know it was on fire until they came over the radio and told him and to get it into the infield. Good job on the safety crews part this time to be right there with the extinguishers.

Merriman thought he was being placed in the wrong position for a re-start. Apparently he feels he has also been jobbed in the past.

I didn't see the incident the precipitated Kenny Butler Jr's, reaction.

And nobody has mentioned the factory stock A when the yellow was so late in coming out that the lead car hit a spun car, a full lap after the car had spun.

"I'd pay $15 to watch a sprint car sit still."

What I understand from talking to people last night about Kyle is that when they were lining up after the yellow the officials came over the radio and told Kyle to get where he should be or they will DQ him. That is when he went off and came to the flagstand.

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands 
in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he 
stands at times of challenge and controversy." 
Martin Luther King, Jr. 

Erich Petersen 

Youre right Mossman, I forgot about the factory deal. That was a bunch of bull. Those factory drivers had something big time to complain about over that one.

From what I remember, Merriman was the only one stopped at the time causing his yellow. That would mean he would automatically start at the very back. What is there to be mad about about that? Did they tell him to start in the very front and he didnt want to? (sorry, had to throw a smarta*s remark in there)

Butler Jr.s deal, I will just say that his front wheel lost it's life to the 33 car.(R.I.P.) Enough said.

Anyone know what Dittman was upset about? After the feature he got out of his car went over to the tech guy told him somthing and went back to his car and threw his neck collar. All during the tech of the champs he was walking back and forth between cars.

This is kinda old but did anyone see the Brill Beane debate last week during the champ feature. They talked nearly the entire feature in the infield.

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands 
in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he 
stands at times of challenge and controversy." 
Martin Luther King, Jr. 

Erich Petersen 

Let's stop and think about the deal between 14 and 33. This week for 14 a damaged left front wheel, several weeks ago for 33 both wings a front end some torsion bars etc...................... I think I would just take my wheel and go home without making the scene of throwing my high dollar helment at a racecar. As I think it was said in the first inncident it was just a racing deal going for the same hole I guess that same hole must of appeared again.

Mitchell Gosey

Well put Mitchell and if your gonna throw something throw the steering wheel. I remember years ago Wayne Johnson threw his helmet at Neighbors it bounced into the cockpit and the next time by where Wayne was still standing Larry dropped it out the car under the left rear and crushed it. Darin Robison

AHH, fond memories.

Well i didn't cause the caution i was running 6th and the caution come out well i lined back up in my spot and they put two cars in front of me so i went back up there well i wouldn't get back in the spot they was trying to put me so they dq'ed me so that's why i did what i did.

Well my dad went and looked at the score sheets and they had me in 6th so i guess im not one of there favorites so there goin to screw me.

Im not goin to set back and get screwed over on every restart. I think i got my point across.

You did good son. I am so proud, you ABSOLUTLEY did the right thing. Period

Kyle although I think you shoud have taken care of it a different way I am still proud of you. Granted some of the powers be need to pull there you know what out of you know what. Although, I thought I knew the reason behind your actions I stood and gave you props b/c I knew what you were upset about. They seem to screw over to many people.

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands 
in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he 
stands at times of challenge and controversy." 
Martin Luther King, Jr. 

Erich Petersen 

i agree kyle - half the time i score the fantasy league based on how i see em come across. rarely can i not get all scored - but many times i will be completely sure about it - i mean no question - and the track results are different. i do all that scoring solo - there is a booth full of people up there - - - so why is it they get it wrong as much or more than me? ...........?

i would normally say u shouldnt have reacted like that. but i was already pissed bout what they let happen - better yet what the CAUSED in the factory feature. that was funked up big time - i thought you were lettin those bastards have what they had comin for a long time..........i know that aint the PC opinion - and may even be wrong - but screw it.

our officials just plain flat out suck balls - especially slugo and lanny. that poor dam flagman looks like a damn fool too - but they clearly have it set up to where he doesnt scratch his ass without gettin permisssion to do so over the headset. every time a car spins or ANYTHING - he is being told what to do or not do over that headset. its so dam obvious. hes a puppet and nothing more. the factory a main was really screwed up...................

How much would could a wouldchuck chuck if a 
wouldchuck could chuck would

Can anybody say consistent???

This is not that hard folks, I was an official at SFS for 14 years, the big deal is the rules are SUPPOSED to be the same for every-one! Either we back up a lap or we don't, these aren't judgement calls it's black & white. We are in a real mess out here, racing used to be a big deal, we used to have guys racing out here who did this for a living! When the price of racing has gone UP @ 400% & the purses have actually gone DOWN, I see a problem here.

In the early 80's with a little hustle to get sponser support the champ dirt guys could make about $1200 a night. That was 27 years ago!!! Time to get real. We have problems.

Exactly

How bout the extra long caution for the Factory "A"? How much does it cost a driver to get a few extra caution laps to change a tire in the work area?

Then there was the Super heat 1 when Bruce Jennigs goes of the top of turn 4 and sits in a bad place. No yellow is thrown. Guess he forgot to pay for his caution up front!!!

I called the Midget after the races and told him that his officials suck. All he had to say was he's been doing this for 40 some years and that he's been successful. I said yeah successful at running 3 tracks into the ground!!!!

I agree 100%.

you should take into account that it was the track offcials fault that tire was needing to be changed in the first place.

when it comes to his success ----- you just gotta wander how much is his success - and how much was just others failures........

How much would could a wouldchuck chuck if a 
wouldchuck could chuck would

Agree that the long caution was meritied in the factory race. That tire would never have been flat if the yellow had been thrown earlier. This was one time when the officials made a good call to allow that tire to be changed.

"I'd pay $15 to watch a sprint car sit still."

I agree with the long caution there as well. If the yellow had been thrown on time - there would have been no flat.

I also understand exactly why Kyle reacted the way he did. But for the sake of the kids that were there watching - I would like to have seen him handle it a little differently. We sit in the stands week after week watching the favorite drivers get special treatment while the select few get screwed over and over again.

I guess things will never get better at SFS until all the drivers unite and let him know exactly where they stand. Lanny will eventually figure out that treating ALL the drivers fairly will keep them coming back to SFS.

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Dallas Cowboys is what we live for:)

It is obvious that they have favorites out there, and Kyle got completely screwed!

I think the way he handled it, he got a valid point across.

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