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April 24, 2019 at
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Who would you say are the top 3 current sprint car racers that are 50 years or older?
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April 24, 2019 at
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Tim Shaffer
Dale Blaney
Lance Dewease
(Over 60 = Jac Haudenschild)
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April 24, 2019 at
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Posted By: armyduke on April 24 2019 at 07:48:36 AM
Tim Shaffer
Dale Blaney
Lance Dewease
(Over 60 = Jac Haudenschild)
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Tim Shaffer
Lance Dewease
Sammy Swindell
(in order)
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April 24, 2019 at
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Posted By: Murphy on April 24 2019 at 07:36:22 AM
Who would you say are the top 3 current sprint car racers that are 50 years or older?
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It depends on where youre racing but if you're basing it off of a true "Outlaw" schedule where you see a different track every night IMO its...Shaffer, Sammy, Haud. Tough question to answer, I think it's too broad. My 3 are different if you go by region though. PA would be Dewease no contest and Shaf/Sammy probably aren't even on that list.
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April 24, 2019 at
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In order:
Tim Shaffer
Lance Dewease
Dale Blaney
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April 24, 2019 at
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Posted By: notyouraveragemillenial on April 24 2019 at 10:08:54 AM
It depends on where youre racing but if you're basing it off of a true "Outlaw" schedule where you see a different track every night IMO its...Shaffer, Sammy, Haud. Tough question to answer, I think it's too broad. My 3 are different if you go by region though. PA would be Dewease no contest and Shaf/Sammy probably aren't even on that list.
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I see your point. Yes, the answer depends. What made me think of this was seeing results from Knoxville and noting that Terry McCarl still gets around pretty good for a guy past 50.
Same discussion- who would you put in that category in the Pennsylvania area?
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April 24, 2019 at
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Tim Shaffer best over 50 and possible top 3 in nation. Is a threat to win anywhere anytime even with outlaws outside of PA
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April 25, 2019 at
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"Dewease is a threat to win from any starting position on a small number of tracks in one specific part of the country. (He can feel free to prove me wrong by leaving that particular part of the country.)"
Me thinks the "beauty" of the 69K is that they don't gotta go nowhere to prove anything to anybody - none of them - owner, crew chief, driver, and likely most of the crew - even the old Ford truck! 
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April 26, 2019 at
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Posted By: Murphy on April 24 2019 at 01:35:25 PM
I see your point. Yes, the answer depends. What made me think of this was seeing results from Knoxville and noting that Terry McCarl still gets around pretty good for a guy past 50.
Same discussion- who would you put in that category in the Pennsylvania area?
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I honestly don’t know. I’m not too firmiliar with the ages of people out there. Dewease is #1 by a mile, he’s #1 of all ages IMO. I just don’t think Shaffer is on that list and do disagree with some of the people on here. Shaf is COMPETITVE wherever he goes but is not a threat to win everywhere. Now I would say he is most definitely a threat to win anywhere he shows up against ASCoC and Outlaws in the midwest but not really anywhere else. All it takes is a look at last year trip for them out west, 0 outlaw wins on the spring West Coast swing. I am a big Shaf fan but am also a straight shooter!
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April 30, 2019 at
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I guess Las Vegas is not "West" enough for "notyouraveragemillenial".
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April 30, 2019 at
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Shaffer not a threat to win????? Wow! I guess the Knoxville Nationals doesn't count. I guess the Lernerville Silver Cup does not count. He has already won 2 All-Star races in Florida and 1 Outlaw win in Vegas this year. By the way, how many All-Star Championships and how many career Outlaw Wins? 4 All-Star Championships, 3 Ohio Speedweek Championships and 15 outlaw wins to be exact places him top twenty in the overall wins category. I would say that is quite a resume and a threat to win.
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Posted By: lpjazz on April 30 2019 at 02:29:02 PM
Shaffer not a threat to win????? Wow! I guess the Knoxville Nationals doesn't count. I guess the Lernerville Silver Cup does not count. He has already won 2 All-Star races in Florida and 1 Outlaw win in Vegas this year. By the way, how many All-Star Championships and how many career Outlaw Wins? 4 All-Star Championships, 3 Ohio Speedweek Championships and 15 outlaw wins to be exact places him top twenty in the overall wins category. I would say that is quite a resume and a threat to win.
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If you go back and re-read my post it says he is not a threat to win everywhere, specifically why I put that in there. I completely forgot the WoO win in Vegas this year, that is my mistake. Then I went on to say he is a threat to win against the ASCoC and Outlaws mostly in the Midwest. If you would take a better look and stop getting your panties in a bunch you would see what I was trying to say. I truly believe he is not a threat to win in some regions of the country. If he rolled into Bakersfield CA I would not consider him a "threat" to win. I would consider him to be a competitive car (top 10) but not a threat to win. Now if he rolled into Lernerville at a ASCoC?/Outlaw event I would consider him a threat.
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Posted By: JanetH on April 30 2019 at 08:10:50 AM
I guess Las Vegas is not "West" enough for "notyouraveragemillenial".
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I completely forgot and this is my mistake, I was wrong. However, in the last 2 years on the Spring West coast swing he has 1 win? Unless i'm wrong on that that doesn't make him a threat to win. I am a Shaf fan but I am only calling what I see ...
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May 01, 2019 at
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Posted By: notyouraveragemillenial on May 01 2019 at 07:12:33 AM
If you go back and re-read my post it says he is not a threat to win everywhere, specifically why I put that in there. I completely forgot the WoO win in Vegas this year, that is my mistake. Then I went on to say he is a threat to win against the ASCoC and Outlaws mostly in the Midwest. If you would take a better look and stop getting your panties in a bunch you would see what I was trying to say. I truly believe he is not a threat to win in some regions of the country. If he rolled into Bakersfield CA I would not consider him a "threat" to win. I would consider him to be a competitive car (top 10) but not a threat to win. Now if he rolled into Lernerville at a ASCoC?/Outlaw event I would consider him a threat.
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I guess you are the type that does not like to be proven wrong. Please allow all of the other hoseheads to review the thread to see who has the accurate post!! Take a look at mine and notice it contains nothing but facts!! While we are at it, let's not forget about the Sprint Car World Championship at Mansfield last year! Even without the Outlaws, a pretty stout field none the less! Tim is a threat no matter where he races and if I am not mistaken, this thread is about 50+ year old drivers that are still able to win or are a threat to win. You really think he does not belong on the list? Who then qualifies as someone who travels extensively, is over 50, and has won in as many parts of the country in the last year? (Florida-All Stars, Vegas-Outlaws, Mansfield - Open competition). The facts speak for themselves!
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May 01, 2019 at
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Posted By: lpjazz on May 01 2019 at 08:04:09 AM
I guess you are the type that does not like to be proven wrong. Please allow all of the other hoseheads to review the thread to see who has the accurate post!! Take a look at mine and notice it contains nothing but facts!! While we are at it, let's not forget about the Sprint Car World Championship at Mansfield last year! Even without the Outlaws, a pretty stout field none the less! Tim is a threat no matter where he races and if I am not mistaken, this thread is about 50+ year old drivers that are still able to win or are a threat to win. You really think he does not belong on the list? Who then qualifies as someone who travels extensively, is over 50, and has won in as many parts of the country in the last year? (Florida-All Stars, Vegas-Outlaws, Mansfield - Open competition). The facts speak for themselves!
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If you want some facts ill shoot them over to ya ... in 2018 he had 5 A Main Starts on the West Coast. 1 top 5 finish out of those 5, a 4th at Vegas. This year, he has 8 Outlaw appearances (including Volusia) and 6 A Main starts (the 2 mains he didn't make we in CA). Of those 6 he has 3 top 5s including a win at Vegas. So in the last 2 years in CA + Vegas alone he has 4 top 5s out of 13 apperarances and 1 win. Now, that doesn't say "a threat to win everywhere" to me. Again I will say, Shaf is COMPETITIVE everywhere he goes vs anyone but not a threat to win everywhere. IMO there is a difference. Ohio is considered Midwest to me also. Oh and while we're at it, this post wasn't about 50+ year old drivers that are still able to win or are a threat to win it was about the 3 best current 50+ year old dirvers. It had nothing to do with winning and being a threat to win until Ford97 said he is a threat to win anywhere vs any competition so I voiced my opinion and thats how we got on the subject. So at the end of the day, I guess your post doesn't have "nothing but facts" .....
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May 01, 2019 at
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Posted By: notyouraveragemillenial on May 01 2019 at 10:13:41 AM
If you want some facts ill shoot them over to ya ... in 2018 he had 5 A Main Starts on the West Coast. 1 top 5 finish out of those 5, a 4th at Vegas. This year, he has 8 Outlaw appearances (including Volusia) and 6 A Main starts (the 2 mains he didn't make we in CA). Of those 6 he has 3 top 5s including a win at Vegas. So in the last 2 years in CA + Vegas alone he has 4 top 5s out of 13 apperarances and 1 win. Now, that doesn't say "a threat to win everywhere" to me. Again I will say, Shaf is COMPETITIVE everywhere he goes vs anyone but not a threat to win everywhere. IMO there is a difference. Ohio is considered Midwest to me also. Oh and while we're at it, this post wasn't about 50+ year old drivers that are still able to win or are a threat to win it was about the 3 best current 50+ year old dirvers. It had nothing to do with winning and being a threat to win until Ford97 said he is a threat to win anywhere vs any competition so I voiced my opinion and thats how we got on the subject. So at the end of the day, I guess your post doesn't have "nothing but facts" .....
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Sorry, added in Florida in that 13 race total the last 2 years.
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Posted By: notyouraveragemillenial on April 26 2019 at 08:09:53 PM
I honestly don’t know. I’m not too firmiliar with the ages of people out there. Dewease is #1 by a mile, he’s #1 of all ages IMO. I just don’t think Shaffer is on that list and do disagree with some of the people on here. Shaf is COMPETITVE wherever he goes but is not a threat to win everywhere. Now I would say he is most definitely a threat to win anywhere he shows up against ASCoC and Outlaws in the midwest but not really anywhere else. All it takes is a look at last year trip for them out west, 0 outlaw wins on the spring West Coast swing. I am a big Shaf fan but am also a straight shooter!
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"Shaf is COMPETITVE wherever he goes but is not a threat to win everywhere." Taken from your post. Yes Ford97 evloved the thread into who is over 50 and is a threat to win and you followed. I stand by my stats with wins from coast to coast and including the midwest, PA and anywhere else in his career. And he is in the top 3 of guys over 50 from my standpoint and probably many others. He probably should be number one being that it can be debated he travels the most, is over 50, is a threat to win, and seems to be running a true outlaw schedule.
You also say in the thread above. "he is most definitely a threat to win anywhere he shows up against ASCoC and Outlaws in the midwest but not really anywhere else" and he has already won THIS YEAR in Florida and Vegas against the All-Stars and the Outlaws. I guess we will have to see how he does the rest of the year, so far off to a pretty good start! Hat's off to the Steel-City Outlaw!!
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If you consider coming to to an argument with facts that support my opinion I guess you're right ....
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May 01, 2019 at
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Didn't forget about Florida but i'll give it to you. So you honestly think he's a threat to win in CA even though the results say otherwise?
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Posted By: notyouraveragemillenial on May 01 2019 at 02:49:44 PM
Didn't forget about Florida but i'll give it to you. So you honestly think he's a threat to win in CA even though the results say otherwise?
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In this context I think threat means a strong possibility, not a quarentee.
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