Forum: HoseHeads Sprint Car General Forum (go)
Moderators: dirtonly  /  dmantx  /  hosehead

That seems to be the future plan.

He's already planning on doing just that after Speedweeks, hahaha. Love it!!!!!!

That's the beautiful part - you are perfectly correct. However, tracks need to think twice about doing this as you run the risk of alienating some of your customer base if you drive away elite talent like DD. 

Correct and it's a very thin line for both parties. 

And likewise, that little cycle wraps right back around again. There's also consequences for being a wimp and not taking criticism like a man. By the looks of things, that consequence will be losing a very good driver/team to another Speedway and probably some fans who go to the races to watch them. The fact is, there's way too many soft people occupying the world today. What the hell ever happened to the Bob Weikert's and Jack Hewitt's of the world? You know....the guys who could dish it out AND take it standing up? 

And they are welcomed with open arms. Drivers know that Port is the best track and facility in Pa. Just ask the drivers that come there from the ASCoC, USAC to WoO and western Pa drivers. Crew chiefs, drivers and fans know that no track in Pa comes close. Not ChooChooGrove and cerainly not the Fabulously Unable To Pass Lincoln Parkway. Where does Pennsylvania's top driver Greg Hodnett call home on a regular basis, yeah, Port Royal Speedway. What track do the Lincy puppy dogs avoid, since they'd be lapped traffic. Yep, Port Royal Speedway. Let'em all come to The Speed Palace and enjoy the best in Pa.

I was out of town on a planned motorcycle ride this past weekend.  I planned this getaway because the race that was run at Lincoln on Saturday.  I like to attend the races at Lincoln but I've gotten a sour taste in my mouth for any race attached to the "Dirt Classic".  This all started last year at the qualifier race.  I'm not a fan of over priced events.  I'm still at a loss for why the price of admission is almost double for this event last year.  This issue forced me to skip both the qualifier and the final at Lincoln, even forced me to skip this years qualifier as noted above.  I will also likely skip this years final.  I don't think the fans should be charged an extra fee to cover the purse or to benefit a charity.  Its my opinion that the promoter is responsible for finding sponsor and "promoting" in order to cover the additional purse and charity contributions.  This shouldn't be accomplished by doubling the ticket price.  Afterall last years qualifier had 2 addtional cars capable of equalifying for the feature.

While drivers / teams are responsible for their actions so are the speedways / promoters.  I'm loosing interest in attending the race at Lincoln speedway.  It appears to me that the "promoters" are not interested in keeping the fan base.  Its obvious based on the parking lot, the stands, and the lack of passing.  If they think penalizing a driver / team is going to help the situation they are sadly mistaken.  I guess I'll take a few more weeks off and let the dust settle.  See if Lincoln Speedway handles the situation in the proper manor.

Lincoln didn't reprimand Danny Dietrich. No suspension. No fine.

What did I miss?  What did he say??

You're not real smart are you? You like to trash Port Royal and the guys who race there as if they're inferior competition yet somehow, the leading feature winner at Lincoln this season so far is Great Hodnett. He has 3, Montieth has 2 and several others have 1. For cherry picking at Port, he sure does know his way around Lincoln doesn't he? Fact is, Port and Lincoln BOTH have very good fields and I love both tracks but if you're going to talk shit you should at least check your facts. Speaking of facts you call Port the dirt palace yet there's one track that none of the drivers are bitching about and that has received nothing but praise from out of town visitors and that's Port Royal. 

Thats a good start.  Now lets see what they do to remedy the issues with the lack of passing.

FWIW, I'm not a DD supporter.  I'm actually beside myself about appearing to taking his side in this situation.  

I have no side. Simply said that you can say what you want but that sometimes there are consequences. Tracks, other drivers, fans have that right as well.

DD did'nt say anything that he does'nt say all the time. Just speakin the truth and a PA journalist has a problem with it. I've liked the guy since 3 yrs. ago when he was attending a usac race at lincoln that got rained out. DD was ready to climb over the fence to get the fans money back to no avail. It's called "Balls" not everyone has em.

.

1. Who did Kolten Gouse suspend from Susky and what did they say?

2. Why doesn't Lincoln just grade out the shelf already, to bring back the top and keep people out of the wall? Props to anyone like Dietrich who pushes the issue.

 
 
 
They don't even know how to spell sprint car 
much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com

Agreed. Danny has a right to speak his mind, track has a right to respond, but to me track should listen to what he has to say rather than "kill the messenger".

However, " take the heat like the big sports do"??? I wish that was the case, NBA fines players & especially ownwers HUGE amounts for criticizing refs, I think Mark Cuban has gotten fined over $200,000 for comments. Totally wrong in my mind....

Cam Ziegler. LLM driver.  i dont know what he said. But i can tell you that Kolten is not liked by the stock car guys that race there weekly.

There is only 1 excuse for the stock car guys not liking kolten.  It's gotta be his "Sprint car attitude"....

hopefully some of you get that.....

Maybe I missed the part where Jeremy "had a problem with it."  He was simply reporting on "the story."  It wasn't an op-ed piece.  Now if you want to say this isn't a "story" so be it.  But the fodder on social media and in the pits seemed to at least suggest there is at least a modicum of a story here.  Jeremy said he believes in free speech, but that sometimes (whether it's a driver, track, fan, your neighbor, an employee, your waiter or waitress, the guy at the hardware store, etc.) there are consequences.  The story was more on social media's role in sprint car racing (and sports in general as an extension) and the results/consequences that cna come from that.  A good follow-up or story down the road would be how social media is creating a positive impact on the sport (which it most certainly is).  But this particular article centered on the "power" and "responsibility" that comes with social media.   

There's also more than one way to display "balls."   

I have been attending Lincoln faithfully for the last 5 years. I feel managemant has become increasingly arrogant when it comes to issues wether in stands or on the track. They seem to think people will just keep coming no matter what. When I moved here I thought Lincoln was the best track around, but if they don't make improvments they will fall behind the others. I still go to Lincoln but if there is something else to do I do that. Please Lincoln step up and listen to the people.

My only issues with this story is that it really does not state much of anything. First off, the story came about as a result of statements made my Danny about Lincoln Speedway. Yet, what Danny actually said never was mentioned and Lincoln Speedway representative shared aboslutley nothing stating they were even remotely considering doing anything as a result of his quotes.

Second, Kolten suspended a driver or drivers as a result of some things said via social media. Well if the story is reporting on this issue..who said what and what did Susquehanna do as well in response. It almost seems as a result of not including all the issues and events at hand that they are making open threats with nothing to back it up. Ok, so you as a prkoter is not happy with some of the things they are saying and doing. Well give us some examples. Tells us what the punishment will be. There has to be a standard set before one can go out and start handing out punishments. I don't see any of this in the story whatsoever. Just a broad statement saying, if you say things, something might happen.

While I understand the idea behind this and why it came up, my thoughts are that basically this was written because it was quite obvious that fans and drivers alike would respond. It created conversation and got people tweeting, facebooking and making their stance known. It was essentially clickbait to enable for future conversation on next weeks podcast and created something to look forward to going forward. Will Danny tone it down? Will the track do anything if he doesn't?

Totally seperate, but this also happened when it was basically said that Hodnett put Lucas Wolfe in the wall to win 5 grand extra. This got Greg heated and got him tweeting examples of other drivers doinjg it to him and other drivers. It got banter going between several drivers and created rivalries out of nothing really. Outside of what was said in the post race interviews (when drivers are hot and vulnerable), there was nothing to base the accusatiuon that Greg Hodnett is a dirty driver.

I guess my point is, it would seem that we are just trying to drum up things to create news when the racing week is slow leading up to Speedweek. But this is just my opinion.