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Topic: Traction Control
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sidewayz
June 15, 2007 at 02:25:18 PM
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Ive been a sprint car fan for a long time. Ive been a F1 fan almost as long. Now with technology is what it is today, how hard is it for a mechanic to hide a traction control divice on a winged 410 sprinter. You hear the F1 people say that if almost dont know what your looking for you couldnt even find it. And if they really didnt want you to, then you wouldnt... With that said this thing could be anywhere in a fuel cell? Or is this not as realistic as i think?



duffyjr73
June 15, 2007 at 02:29:05 PM
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oh boy, here we go

 



crewchief47
June 15, 2007 at 02:30:39 PM
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i am guessing in the neighborhood of 300 post on this one lol come on people dont let me down



Midwest Race Fan
June 15, 2007 at 02:37:25 PM
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What's traction control and where do I get some?



RunninE
June 15, 2007 at 02:42:05 PM
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Traction control does exist, but it is not the reason WoO teams consistently beat the locals.



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June 15, 2007 at 03:10:38 PM
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If anybody wants to purchase one I know where there are a couple for sale.
Email me if you are interested.


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gdude
June 15, 2007 at 03:30:48 PM
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You don't really think guys are using it do you?

 

 

A team that was selling out a few years ago had me sell this for them. It is a Davis unit hidden inside an MSD box.


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darbo42
June 15, 2007 at 04:09:36 PM
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Reply to:
Posted By: sidewayz on June 15 2007 at 02:25:18 PM

Ive been a sprint car fan for a long time. Ive been a F1 fan almost as long. Now with technology is what it is today, how hard is it for a mechanic to hide a traction control divice on a winged 410 sprinter. You hear the F1 people say that if almost dont know what your looking for you couldnt even find it. And if they really didnt want you to, then you wouldnt... With that said this thing could be anywhere in a fuel cell? Or is this not as realistic as i think?



Steve Kinser admitted a while ago that he has been using it for years. He said his traction control is his right foot!!!!


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BigRightRear
June 15, 2007 at 04:18:01 PM
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ask this instead...how hard is it to find if the officials don't bother looking?

answer: no one has been caught using it in sprint car yet...if they did, it was kept quiet.


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nodust
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June 15, 2007 at 04:26:02 PM
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This message was edited on June 15, 2007 at 04:27:06 PM by nodust

My guess is that ALL MSD boxes come with the terchnoligy built in from the factory.

The "aftermarket" mearly activates it electronicly and sell you a switch for a few grand.

A late model was found with it in Burlington last year at the Pepsi Nationals.


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a500tt
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June 15, 2007 at 05:07:35 PM
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DUANE, Do you recall who got cuaght at burlington ?


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nodust
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June 15, 2007 at 05:23:03 PM
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No, but at the time it was pretty hot news.


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sonoranrat
June 15, 2007 at 05:26:33 PM
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Does traction control make for better racing? If so, legalize the device. If not, ban for a life time any manufacturer who markets traction control or a device that only requires "activation" to be traction control



nodust
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June 15, 2007 at 05:33:42 PM
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The sport does not have enough gonads to ban anyone for any reason.


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Torsion
June 15, 2007 at 05:47:11 PM
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Made for Analog MSD®Ignitions as an alternative to Traction Control

What is TRACS? A manual/analog racer activated race engine restrictor rather than traction control. By connecting TRACS to the Small Red wire (a switched+12vdc) of a analog MSD®Ignition. The racer has the ability to effect acceleration of the competion platform via a switch and restrict the analog MSD®Ignitions maximum output performance from 3000 rpm to 9,000 rpm at any point in time. There by restricting the race engines acceleration to its maximum output during that particular point in time as well as decreasing the race engines power output by an average of 10 to 12 percent. Once the driver decides its time to return to normal operation they just simply turn off the unit and the analog MSD®Ignition will again reach its full output performance. During activation you will notice a slight engine tone or note change but this is the only indication. This to is what makes our unit different from any other acceleration or traction control available. You will also feel the race engine throttle response go flat. This is totally different than any other acceleration or traction control available today. From trackside a fellow racer may notice your race vehicle is acting like it has a poorly charged battery or has a plug wire loose. Once again we offer a unique new design, which acts and performs like no other system or traction control available today.

anyone know anything about more about this?

http://www.techwestracing.com/tracs/tracsdemo020706.wmv

http://www.techwestracing.com/page20.html




sidewayz
June 15, 2007 at 10:00:43 PM
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I want to say thanks to those who shared in on this topic even with some pics. I think we all agree that traction control ruins racing. If nascar can cut it out by making the NEXTEL cup teams by making them expose the MSD boxes. But who would train all the local officails to look for these devices? And should sprint cars have a box on board and instead of being weighed, the officails plug them into a computer to check rpms. I believe sprint car orginazations should inforce a traction control rule. Otherwise it will be more like a big kids video game.



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