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Amateur hour! I was a died in the wool Flo fan, but the fact they can't even get their act together to have the announcers audio working during this broadcast is Flippin ridiculous. I watched the outlaws race from arrowhead Speedway on dirt vision earlier this evening and it was 10 times more polished than this cr@p they're putting out from Flo! The quality of their broadcast is equivalent to a high school student streaming from his android phone (not even iPhone level).  I hate to bash them, but the quality of this broadcast is absolutely piss poor.

This'll be my last post on the topic. I love how when they finally resolved the audio issue, the announcer (Gary Thomas) makes a snarky comment about how the 29 people who complained about the audio can be relieved the audio is back.  Guess what GT... you're showing your backside.  If only 29 people complained about watching a race with no audio: 1) not many people are watching or 2) people don't miss hearing your commentary. Food for thought. Put that in your snark pipe :-)

Thank you your feedback Mike and thank you for watching. First off it was a joke to many of my friends who messaged to let me know. And they also worked diligently to try and fix the issue. Everybody is out there putting in the effort to try and make things positive. 

Amateur hour! I was a died in the wool Flo fan, but the fact they can't even get their act together to have the announcers audio working during this broadcast is Flippin ridiculous. I watched the outlaws race from arrowhead Speedway on dirt vision earlier this evening and it was 10 times more polished than this cr@p they're putting out from Flo! The quality of their broadcast is equivalent to a high school student streaming from his android phone (not even iPhone level).  I hate to bash them, but the quality of this broadcast is absolutely piss poor.

Amateur hour! I was a died in the wool Flo fan, but the fact they can't even get their act together to have the announcers audio working during this broadcast is Flippin ridiculous. I watched the outlaws race from arrowhead Speedway on dirt vision earlier this evening and it was 10 times more polished than this cr@p they're putting out from Flo! The quality of their broadcast is equivalent to a high school student streaming from his android phone (not even iPhone level).  I hate to bash them, but the quality of this broadcast is absolutely piss poor.

I have been pointing out that Flo is often like amateur hour especially when it comes to audio. It seems like they do not check anything ahead of time or the folks doing the audio do not have enough time to get ready to stream live perhaps? They may not pay enough to get good help. Audio and video folks command top dollars doing broadcast sports TV. I worked in the field for 45+ years. I worked baseball this past weekend so I will be watching the replays this week.

Thanks for the heads up.

I don't know if it's still this way but the video guys that did video were friends of ours who had video cameras instead of still cameras.  I don't know if that's still the case but at least when I was still around the tracks every weekend video people were local guys who would shoot as a side deal to their day job.  I have never seen a production trailer like they'd use for pro sports.

As a former track rat and now mostly a seventy something streamer every dirt track broadcast comes across as semi professional except for a few big events.  Between gnarly track conditions, lights going out, types of support classes most open wheel fans would not care for we tend to overlook a lot.  Then there are long drawn out awards ceremonies Involving weekly racing that viewers have no idea who they are or why there is a delay .  
 

Dirt fans pay Netflix prices for what ends up barely being better than home video on some nights.  I pay $450 per year for two channels and a lot of times the broadcast quality isn't much better.  If it was any other sport or entertainment package I'd consider it over priced because of the annoyances but I watch it because it's the only way to stay connected with the sport and not for the broadcast quality.  It's getting much better than it was so no complaints but if I had to be honest the overall quality and getting done on schedule are never going to be perfect.

Dirt racing is still morphing from a "you have to be there" business model like drive in movies to making the sport available to fans over the air.  The sport up to this point hasn't attracted much interest from broadcast TV and corporate sponsors.  Perhaps less "f*ck" in the work area and some more professalism might get them past the FCC on network TV.  A lot of fans would rather have work area chaos than make the sport presentable and that kind of thing doesn't attract better production quality.  At least it didn't in the world I grew up in.  I remember a big uproar when I was a kid and John Wayne said hell and damn in a movie.  

That's what I'm seeing from my recliner anyways.  I watch it for the racing and if the quality gets better that's a bonus.  I watch Husets and Knoxville most weeks during the season and they both do a great job as do places like Jackson, Eldora and some of the PA and west coast tracks.  It seems like things go south more often at tracks out in the middle of nowhere that don't have the infastructure for TV.  

Dirt racing live on network TV is a dream of the past.  Be glad we have live streaming even with all its growing pains.  Why would WoO/High Limit pay for airtime on network when they can make money live from streaming?

It looked like a 410 demo watching sprint cars go 45 mph and tipping over haha.

Are they really going to run the outlaws there.

Place didn't get any better racing wise .

Called off with 3 laps to go after midnight ouch.

Amateur hour! I was a died in the wool Flo fan, but the fact they can't even get their act together to have the announcers audio working during this broadcast is Flippin ridiculous. I watched the outlaws race from arrowhead Speedway on dirt vision earlier this evening and it was 10 times more polished than this cr@p they're putting out from Flo! The quality of their broadcast is equivalent to a high school student streaming from his android phone (not even iPhone level).  I hate to bash them, but the quality of this broadcast is absolutely piss poor.

Amateur hour! I was a died in the wool Flo fan, but the fact they can't even get their act together to have the announcers audio working during this broadcast is Flippin ridiculous. I watched the outlaws race from arrowhead Speedway on dirt vision earlier this evening and it was 10 times more polished than this cr@p they're putting out from Flo! The quality of their broadcast is equivalent to a high school student streaming from his android phone (not even iPhone level).  I hate to bash them, but the quality of this broadcast is absolutely piss poor.

WOW. This is the worst streamed event that I have watched so far. This is my first year of watching streaming but I have worked in broadcast television for 45+ years (mainly sports the past 20 years).  I feel that overall Dirt Vision currently provides a much higher level of actual TV production but they do fewer events (it seems) so their best help isn't spread so thin and they do not need as much.  The wages that both pay the people doing the events are well below the wages paid at regional and network level events. Less than half. Flo has done a nice job with High Limit so far. 

The camera operator was either not real good or poorly directed, perhaps both?  When it is a single camera production the camera operator is very important.

The audio pretty much went away for awhile and then came back with level and distortion problems. Must not have back up equipment or a plan for problems. Not likely there is a person dedicated to the audio. In higher level productions there are several people to deal with the audio and nothing else. It was hard to listen to so I mainly just watched.

In my opinion Flo has better controls for replaying events.  It is hard to move ahead small amounts with Dirt Vision's contols or lack of them. Dirt Vision's scoring and timing graphics are superior. With Flo when the race ends and the laps flashes to 9999 that needs to be fixed.   I don't care for fast talking hard to listen to Johnny Gibson. There are worse announcers though. Adding some good audio processing equipment would help all of them and the viewers.

As for the racing it was a very long event even replayed where I could and did skip ahead. YAWN!

I certainly hope you e-mailed them and set them right. What was their reply?

WOW. This is the worst streamed event that I have watched so far. This is my first year of watching streaming but I have worked in broadcast television for 45+ years (mainly sports the past 20 years).  I feel that overall Dirt Vision currently provides a much higher level of actual TV production but they do fewer events (it seems) so their best help isn't spread so thin and they do not need as much.  The wages that both pay the people doing the events are well below the wages paid at regional and network level events. Less than half. Flo has done a nice job with High Limit so far. 

The camera operator was either not real good or poorly directed, perhaps both?  When it is a single camera production the camera operator is very important.

The audio pretty much went away for awhile and then came back with level and distortion problems. Must not have back up equipment or a plan for problems. Not likely there is a person dedicated to the audio. In higher level productions there are several people to deal with the audio and nothing else. It was hard to listen to so I mainly just watched.

In my opinion Flo has better controls for replaying events.  It is hard to move ahead small amounts with Dirt Vision's contols or lack of them. Dirt Vision's scoring and timing graphics are superior. With Flo when the race ends and the laps flashes to 9999 that needs to be fixed.   I don't care for fast talking hard to listen to Johnny Gibson. There are worse announcers though. Adding some good audio processing equipment would help all of them and the viewers.

As for the racing it was a very long event even replayed where I could and did skip ahead. YAWN!