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Topic: Travellers 9, Posse 1.
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MSPN
October 25, 2019 at 09:49:19 PM
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Port Royal puts on a show, oops wait, I thought this was the Grove Board, my bad!



shernernum
October 25, 2019 at 10:58:32 PM
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Port Royal puts on a show, oops wait, I thought this was the Grove Board, my bad!



Was a snoozer for most of the night too, except for Madsen  backing up in the dash and a few of passes in the A when the track finally widened a bit.   Can’t imagine why we would rather have a slicker racier track.  Macri is going to be one to beat locally next year.

 



dsc1600
October 26, 2019 at 06:57:00 AM
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Lance DNQ at Port Royal. Didn’t see that happening.



steelcityguy
October 26, 2019 at 07:22:29 AM
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Yes, because a super fast, locked down race track with little passing is soooooo much better than a slick track with tons of passing and slower lap times.  Like you said, it's a race.  There is supposed to be passing in a race and if the track is slick today there will be passing, if not it will be wet and locked down.  Brown likes the wet track because he sucks on slick tracks. Ask a driver like, I don't know, Lance Dewease how he feels about a slick track.  He'll say hell yeah, bring it on.  So putting your entire argument on Brown's comments holds no water, lol.  Almost every driver talked about the track being too fast, locked down and with no passing. Hmmm, wonder why.  But once again, track prep guru Strawser, who likely watched online, knows it all.



HoldenCaulfield
October 26, 2019 at 07:37:28 AM
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Posted By: shernernum on October 25 2019 at 10:58:32 PM

Was a snoozer for most of the night too, except for Madsen  backing up in the dash and a few of passes in the A when the track finally widened a bit.   Can’t imagine why we would rather have a slicker racier track.  Macri is going to be one to beat locally next year.

 



Couldn't agree more, should be a much racier surface today if they can get it in before the rain.


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Johnny Utah
October 26, 2019 at 08:30:12 AM
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Was a snoozer for most of the night too, except for Madsen  backing up in the dash and a few of passes in the A when the track finally widened a bit.   Can’t imagine why we would rather have a slicker racier track.  Macri is going to be one to beat locally next year.

 



You pulled the pin on the hand grenade in this thread. Hahaha.



Nick14
October 26, 2019 at 09:20:58 AM
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Format had nothing to do with it. Line the cars up any way with the quality of field there & the same type of racing happens with a front row winner. Cars only off a couple of tenths on a heavy track means you won't see too much racing upfront. But yay, the cars were fast. Race was good but not as good as other features I have seen from Port this year. But whatever, doesn't mean I won't stop watching or over use exclamation points & all cap letters on a message board.



egras
October 26, 2019 at 09:25:42 AM
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Posted By: steelcityguy on October 26 2019 at 07:22:29 AM

Yes, because a super fast, locked down race track with little passing is soooooo much better than a slick track with tons of passing and slower lap times.  Like you said, it's a race.  There is supposed to be passing in a race and if the track is slick today there will be passing, if not it will be wet and locked down.  Brown likes the wet track because he sucks on slick tracks. Ask a driver like, I don't know, Lance Dewease how he feels about a slick track.  He'll say hell yeah, bring it on.  So putting your entire argument on Brown's comments holds no water, lol.  Almost every driver talked about the track being too fast, locked down and with no passing. Hmmm, wonder why.  But once again, track prep guru Strawser, who likely watched online, knows it all.



Agree



revjimk
October 26, 2019 at 07:36:58 PM
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You should just leave Pa. & go to Bonneville Salt Flats. Incredible speed, zero passing! ;)



fiXXXer
October 27, 2019 at 05:27:49 AM
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This message was edited on October 27, 2019 at 05:29:55 AM by fiXXXer
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Posted By: steelcityguy on October 26 2019 at 07:22:29 AM

Yes, because a super fast, locked down race track with little passing is soooooo much better than a slick track with tons of passing and slower lap times.  Like you said, it's a race.  There is supposed to be passing in a race and if the track is slick today there will be passing, if not it will be wet and locked down.  Brown likes the wet track because he sucks on slick tracks. Ask a driver like, I don't know, Lance Dewease how he feels about a slick track.  He'll say hell yeah, bring it on.  So putting your entire argument on Brown's comments holds no water, lol.  Almost every driver talked about the track being too fast, locked down and with no passing. Hmmm, wonder why.  But once again, track prep guru Strawser, who likely watched online, knows it all.



Brown's opinion holds just as much water as Lance's. And right there is why the track prep guy should just prep the damn track how he thinks it needs to be done for the weather, format and expected car count and not listen to all the noise from the drivers. The fact is there is no right, wrong, best or worst way to prep a track within the obvious parameters of making sure it's smooth and it isn't so wet or so dry that it can't be raced on. Lance drives the 69K. Of course he wants a slick track......who the hell wouldn't if they were driving that car? A slick track dramatically enhances his chances of winning. Brian Brown has a Charlie Garrett engine. Why wouldn't he want the track to be hammer down fast with a bullet like that under the hood? Every driver and team has their strengths and weaknesses and most of them are gonna lobby for what they like relentlessly if they think there's a chance they might get it. If you do what 1 driver wants you to do, you're going to piss another one off who wants it their way. Guys like Steve Stimely & Fred Putney know what they're doing & 90% of the time, they do it well. They can work magic with a grader just like Lance & Brownie can work magic with a sprint car. I miss the days when drivers just showed up and adjusted their driving and set ups to meet whatever demands the track gave them that night. This shit of some of these drivers thinking the track should be how they want it all the time and then throwing a hissy fit on Twitter when it isn't is getting old. Like Mr. Hodnett always said: it's the same for everyone.



fiXXXer
October 27, 2019 at 05:33:01 AM
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I'll be damned. Strawser and Minthess made love and had a baby. Congrats guys!



sprintcarfanatic
October 27, 2019 at 08:40:57 AM
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Thank You Aaron Ruetzel for representing the All Stars !!!



dsc1600
October 27, 2019 at 10:07:09 AM
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Going back to the original post, with all the success the All Stars have had this year in PA combined with the WoO success, this has to be the worst year the Posse has had against outsiders in many years.

 



fiXXXer
October 27, 2019 at 11:38:19 AM
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Nope. I think it's cool to see some variety. I've owned both Chevy's & Fords. I liked them both. 



fiXXXer
October 27, 2019 at 12:20:16 PM
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Going back to the original post, with all the success the All Stars have had this year in PA combined with the WoO success, this has to be the worst year the Posse has had against outsiders in many years.

 



Definitely the worst I can remember and it isn't even close.



revjimk
October 27, 2019 at 01:05:18 PM
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Posted By: fiXXXer on October 27 2019 at 05:27:49 AM

Brown's opinion holds just as much water as Lance's. And right there is why the track prep guy should just prep the damn track how he thinks it needs to be done for the weather, format and expected car count and not listen to all the noise from the drivers. The fact is there is no right, wrong, best or worst way to prep a track within the obvious parameters of making sure it's smooth and it isn't so wet or so dry that it can't be raced on. Lance drives the 69K. Of course he wants a slick track......who the hell wouldn't if they were driving that car? A slick track dramatically enhances his chances of winning. Brian Brown has a Charlie Garrett engine. Why wouldn't he want the track to be hammer down fast with a bullet like that under the hood? Every driver and team has their strengths and weaknesses and most of them are gonna lobby for what they like relentlessly if they think there's a chance they might get it. If you do what 1 driver wants you to do, you're going to piss another one off who wants it their way. Guys like Steve Stimely & Fred Putney know what they're doing & 90% of the time, they do it well. They can work magic with a grader just like Lance & Brownie can work magic with a sprint car. I miss the days when drivers just showed up and adjusted their driving and set ups to meet whatever demands the track gave them that night. This shit of some of these drivers thinking the track should be how they want it all the time and then throwing a hissy fit on Twitter when it isn't is getting old. Like Mr. Hodnett always said: it's the same for everyone.



Good points....



revjimk
October 27, 2019 at 01:08:49 PM
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I'm a Ford guy too

I think FiXXers wisecrack was about how you always agree with BStrawser, so much that some of us wonder if you're actually him

The Minthess thing was probably just added for "hahas"



revjimk
October 27, 2019 at 01:11:37 PM
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Posted By: MSPN on October 25 2019 at 09:49:19 PM

Port Royal puts on a show, oops wait, I thought this was the Grove Board, my bad!



Lets face it, Allstars are pretty damn good (especially Reutzel) ... congratulations!

Posse is not what it used to be, with Hodnett tragedy & "graduation" of some young guns to WoO

oh well......



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