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That makes sense.... why be a lowly Pope when you're already The Exalted Wannabe  Speed Palace Track Prep Manager??? ;)

I believe I speak for most of the forum members when I suggest that it's high  time for the two of you to get a room, so the rest of us can talk about sprint car racing.

ouch....

Other than Rico and the #3 from Missouri will anyone else be missing that was here for Fridat? Saw Brown us still planing to come in any new ones.

I highly doubt Brian Brown will show just for the Open. Would have made sense to race BAPS last night also.

That was a very good race. I would say the outlaws had there tails kicked.  I'm not the biggest fan of DD but I was glad to see him win the championship in the manner he did last night. He was definitely up on the wheel and giving it his all. 

LD, what can you say,  it only shows how luck sometimes plays a big part in winning. I was glad to hear him say, I'm not done yet. 

Brent Marks, how does one top that season. They announced around 700 K in earnings this year, wow. Only shows, you don't have to follow a series.

Macri,  I thought when he got to 4th and with the yellows he was going to make his move, he almost did if it wasn't for the bobble in 3 and 4. I think that cost him the race. 

The bridge, well all the winers, wrg included, finally got there way. But if it wasn't somebody was going to get killed.  There's dangers all around a speedway that can seriously hurt someone. You think as drivers they don't know that. 

Van, do you think he was having fun. Only shows you how far these cars of today have trully come. 

Straw, he's dam lucky he didn't bounce it off his lid. He was hard on the brake and got off it just in the nick of time and the car kept rolling. 

He won at what? Eight different tracks or is it nine this year. He runs the bottom more that people who don't watch him think. Lance has said what makes him so good now is that he can run the bottom when he needs to and that makes it hard to defend the lead when he is behind you. It is also what makes him good on long green flag runs is that when he comes to lapped traffic he just goes where they aren't.

Yea he runs the top more. You will have to forgive me but I think I will take Lance Deweases word over yours. You don't see these things on highlight films.

Maybe you should ask Donny Shatz about that. Macri drove low the whole way through a corner to pass two times in one night On Friday at Port.

Yeah he really struggled on the heavy cushion, narrow track at the Grove Saturday night. He only went from 9th to 3rd against the best in the business. He was the fastest car on the track and challenging for 2nd at a track that really isn't one of his best. 

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Too bad you don't go to Port or you'd have seen Lance win on the bottom plenty of times....

He races there more often too....

You said " Port very rarely has a bottom groove" ..... when Lance shows up, there is!

It just about kills me to agree with wingedstrawser but he's partially right. The bottom groove at Port rarely pays off for more than a lap or 2 and even then, it typically takes the car up top missing the line and hanging off the corner to be able to drive by. There's definitely a noticeable difference since they moved the bottom fence in a few years back. The top and bottom used to be pretty even. Just depends on who was using them. Now, the top is definitely dominant even early in the night. The bottom does seem to stick around a little longer when the track is wetter and that's mainly because the cars running down low make the middle and top dirty and there isn't as much grip. But once it cleans off, the top is almost always way faster even for Lance. He doesn't put it right on the fence though. He kind floats the middle and slides up. He can still win at Port, but he hasn't won there nearly as much since the track was made wider. One can argue all day whether or not it's better racing now but the fact is, it's definitely a more top dominant track now. Especially with the way the track has more banking right around the fence. Me personally? I prefer it the other way when there was more side by side racing as opposed to sliding someone and squeezing them against the fence like it is now. 

Yeah it's not easy to win running the bottom at Port anymore. Lafferty did it this year. It's not easy running a sprint car inches off the outside rail either. There's a handful of cars who have become good at it, but none as good as Macri. 

Back to the original topic. Why does the biggest race in PA pay $1300 to take the green, but the 2nd biggest pays $2000 to start and even has a non-qualifiers race that pays $2000?

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The top three at both races were at both races. The winner from one started on the front row. The winner of the other started 19th. How did those other drivers improve one race?  A question that I don't know the answer to; does anyone know the total purse of the two? The last time I was at the Williams Grove National Steve Kinser won. For that reason I don't feel qualified to judge which race is better nor is anyone else who only attends one of them.

Exactly.... Tusky was MUCH more entertaining!

I never said Lance was a bottom hugger... he uses the whole track, including the bottom

TONS!!!   Best event by far east of Eldora

Except the heats, B, Dash and A main yes grove was better.  1 guy made more money at Grove.  52 other guys made more money in the 3 day Port show.  5 outlaws who could have gotten top 12-15 does not make it better. CHOO CHOO Grove is your cup of tea, I'll take racing every time.