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Posted By: Feese11 on August 11 2014 at 09:39:19 AM
No contact made between Stewart and Ward cars so Tony heads down backstretch and reacts to yellow flag like rest of field with no way of knowing Ward made contact with wall and has come out of car looking to blame him as he drives down to turn one/two. The car in front of Tony has the much better view of seeing Ward and barely misses him while Tony's vision is blocked from car he is following. The facts are Ward came out of car hot headed over a racing accident where no ones to blame, just a racing deal. He put himself in harms way and got too close to Tony's car and got hit. Seeing drivers come out of cars and stand on track looking to point finger or throw helmet at who they believe wrecked them happens all the time. Frankly I am surprised something unfortunate like this hasn't happened before. Though cars are under caution they are still running at a fast speed. Go stand out on highway while cars are going 65- 70 miles an hour and eventually the ending will be bad. I feel sorry for Kevin Ward's family, friends and only hope they will see this unfortunate tragedy for what it is. I also feel equally sorry for Tony Stewart and his family, friends as this will be a deep wound that never heals. If this incident ends up with Tony choosing to quit running open wheel races on the side around his Nascar career then we all lose as open wheel race fans over this terrible tragedy.
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Posted By: Feese11 on August 11 2014 at 09:39:19 AM
No contact made between Stewart and Ward cars so Tony heads down backstretch and reacts to yellow flag like rest of field with no way of knowing Ward made contact with wall and has come out of car looking to blame him as he drives down to turn one/two. The car in front of Tony has the much better view of seeing Ward and barely misses him while Tony's vision is blocked from car he is following. The facts are Ward came out of car hot headed over a racing accident where no ones to blame, just a racing deal. He put himself in harms way and got too close to Tony's car and got hit. Seeing drivers come out of cars and stand on track looking to point finger or throw helmet at who they believe wrecked them happens all the time. Frankly I am surprised something unfortunate like this hasn't happened before. Though cars are under caution they are still running at a fast speed. Go stand out on highway while cars are going 65- 70 miles an hour and eventually the ending will be bad. I feel sorry for Kevin Ward's family, friends and only hope they will see this unfortunate tragedy for what it is. I also feel equally sorry for Tony Stewart and his family, friends as this will be a deep wound that never heals. If this incident ends up with Tony choosing to quit running open wheel races on the side around his Nascar career then we all lose as open wheel race fans over this terrible tragedy.
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Kevin is gone and I know Tony is hurting along with the rest of the racing community.Having driven and been around racing for many years with event of the Hans device it makes looking to the side much more difficult and the vision on the right wing side makes it hard to see.That being said and it has happened many times exiting a race car to express what you think might have happened is dangerous and the moment Kevin exited his car it was too late.No one would intentionally hurt another and all the good things Tony has done will never erase what took place.I know of people thru no fault of their own have been involved in an accident that resulted in a fatality and their lives were never the same.My condolances to both and I pass no judgement as it was just a terrible racing deal.
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Calm down.
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August 12, 2014 at
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i might get crucified for this, but it needs to be said, i know this is board where people discuss certain issues, but this is`nt the time! i know your all race fans with certain views on what happened, there`s only one person that knows for sure, and thats tony, both familys are going thru hell right now, and all anyone can do know is point fingers! how do you think friends and family would think if they read these posts, we lost a young man, we should be putting our energy into prayers for both families, i`m a race fan, just like the rest of you, not getting on a high horse, just think at this time, we should be thinking of them!, thank you
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August 12, 2014 at
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Criminal charge possible for Stewart in Ward death
They don't even know how to spell sprint car
much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com
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August 12, 2014 at
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Posted By: cubicdollars on August 12 2014 at 06:49:47 PM
Criminal charge possible for Stewart in Ward death
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August 12, 2014 at
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Posted By: cubicdollars on August 12 2014 at 06:49:47 PM
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we know you have wet dreams of tony being convicted.
thing is. they have nothing that incriminates him. and it seems they are doing everything they can to find SOMETHING.
they are finishing up their pysical investigation and still have nothing to indicate anyone did anything to warrent criminal prosecution.
the question if someone is reckless come into play according to a lawyer.
well hate to say it but getting out of your car and running down the track within inches of a moving car is reckless.
and yes if tony said he was trying to blow dirt at the kid then he would be in trouble.
the thing is nothing in any of the vids i have seen suggests tony tried to buzz ward and doubt that was part of tony's statement.
too many people at the track who were close to the sitution have said it looked like a terrible accident.
of those who have said otherwise, the videos i have seen don't support their description of what they saw.
we will have to see what happens but till then i guess we will just have to put up with shit heads like you that want to stir the pot.
to indy and beyond!!
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August 12, 2014 at
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IT WAS AN ACCIDENT!!!! Damn Sprint Car Fans your wearing it out!! Give it a rest....
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August 12, 2014 at
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Posted By: buzz rightrear on August 12 2014 at 07:03:48 PM
we know you have wet dreams of tony being convicted.
thing is. they have nothing that incriminates him. and it seems they are doing everything they can to find SOMETHING.
they are finishing up their pysical investigation and still have nothing to indicate anyone did anything to warrent criminal prosecution.
the question if someone is reckless come into play according to a lawyer.
well hate to say it but getting out of your car and running down the track within inches of a moving car is reckless.
and yes if tony said he was trying to blow dirt at the kid then he would be in trouble.
the thing is nothing in any of the vids i have seen suggests tony tried to buzz ward and doubt that was part of tony's statement.
too many people at the track who were close to the sitution have said it looked like a terrible accident.
of those who have said otherwise, the videos i have seen don't support their description of what they saw.
we will have to see what happens but till then i guess we will just have to put up with shit heads like you that want to stir the pot.
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oh i forgat to add.
can we finally be rid of this worthless POS cubic dollars?
to indy and beyond!!
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Posted By: buzz rightrear on August 12 2014 at 07:03:48 PM
we know you have wet dreams of tony being convicted.
thing is. they have nothing that incriminates him. and it seems they are doing everything they can to find SOMETHING.
they are finishing up their pysical investigation and still have nothing to indicate anyone did anything to warrent criminal prosecution.
the question if someone is reckless come into play according to a lawyer.
well hate to say it but getting out of your car and running down the track within inches of a moving car is reckless.
and yes if tony said he was trying to blow dirt at the kid then he would be in trouble.
the thing is nothing in any of the vids i have seen suggests tony tried to buzz ward and doubt that was part of tony's statement.
too many people at the track who were close to the sitution have said it looked like a terrible accident.
of those who have said otherwise, the videos i have seen don't support their description of what they saw.
we will have to see what happens but till then i guess we will just have to put up with shit heads like you that want to stir the pot.
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Don't play into cubic's BS Maddogg, Buzz and Paintboss. Let him post whatever he wants, all it does is show what a true assclown he is. Just let him keep doing it because in the end he is the one that looks bad no matter what. Just quit feeding into people like him. Below is an article from the news in Rochester. It is a driver who was a few spots back from where the accident occured.
Also, Marty Smith who is doing an awesome job covering this whole story and for ESPN had a podcast with Ryan McGee. Brought up great points about how great the Sheriff's office is investigating this and educating people who do not understand racing. It is on ESPN's front page so go ahead and look it up and give it a listen. Its great that we have at least a couple of reporters that are reporting facts and not specualting.
http://rochester.twcnews.com/content/news/760185/witness-to-tony-stewart-crash-says-driver-could-not-have-avoided-hitting-other-driver/
http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/
click on marty and mcgee
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August 12, 2014 at
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You guys need to get a grip. All I said in this thread is he hit the gas, because others were saying he didn't. Would have never said anything otherwise. They are wrong. Video, or no video. Multiple witnesses at the track said he hit the gas. Multiple witnesses said he was trying to buzz him. Hopefully second video sheds some more light on it.
They don't even know how to spell sprint car
much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com
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last post will put on here! you people should be ashamed of yourself, racefans? i thought we were a family, I YOUNG MAN IS GONE! get a grip, and put your selfish thoughts aside for one minute, i cant believe, as racefans you cant quit debating this subject ! both these families are greiving! and need our prayers! and you guys are in a pissing match! put yourself in their shoes! would you want this? i think not, come on! give it a rest!
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Posted By: cubicdollars on August 12 2014 at 07:55:36 PM
You guys need to get a grip. All I said in this thread is he hit the gas, because others were saying he didn't. Would have never said anything otherwise. They are wrong. Video, or no video. Multiple witnesses at the track said he hit the gas. Multiple witnesses said he was trying to buzz him. Hopefully second video sheds some more light on it.
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Cubic I know you are a big Posse supporter as I am but for fucks sake man you are so way off here. Yes he "hit the gas" to AVOID contact with Ward. I just watched a clip on TV from Cory Sparks (who WAS on the track and WAS a friend of the Ward kid) who said he was confident that Tony burped, gassed, mashed the throttle to AVOID hitting him. For christ sakes man as much as you claim to know about sprint cars you know damn well they dont turn quickly without throttle control. I dont give a damn how much of an ego or an asshole ANY driver is... he DID NOT want to run over the guy. Any other talk on the subject is ridiculous.
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Posted By: cubicdollars on August 12 2014 at 07:55:36 PM
You guys need to get a grip. All I said in this thread is he hit the gas, because others were saying he didn't. Would have never said anything otherwise. They are wrong. Video, or no video. Multiple witnesses at the track said he hit the gas. Multiple witnesses said he was trying to buzz him. Hopefully second video sheds some more light on it.
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I also saw on twitter a guy "who was there" said that Tony was stopped in track and the kid ran over to the car and tony gassed it and ran him over. All I'm trying to say is not all eye witnesses are worthy of testifying .
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Posted By: jac22 on August 12 2014 at 09:27:13 PM
I also saw on twitter a guy "who was there" said that Tony was stopped in track and the kid ran over to the car and tony gassed it and ran him over. All I'm trying to say is not all eye witnesses are worthy of testifying .
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You AND your buddy are idiots. The only time Tony (and everyone else) "stopped" is when the red flag was displayed after the second accident occurred. You and your buddy are as worthy as a bag of hammers.
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Posted By: CentralPaPosse on August 12 2014 at 09:41:33 PM
You AND your buddy are idiots. The only time Tony (and everyone else) "stopped" is when the red flag was displayed after the second accident occurred. You and your buddy are as worthy as a bag of hammers.
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Thanks dumbshit...I think you should re read my post. I was implying the guy on twitter was an idiot.He's not my buddy nor do I know him. I was making a point on how unreliable that even eye witnesses can be.
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Posted By: Rogue-9 on August 12 2014 at 02:09:16 AM
Are you kidding me? Watch it in slow motion again. You can see clear as day that Kevin changes direction and tries to dive out of the way just before Tony's car gets to him. As he tries to dive, he loses his footing and is unable to get clear.
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So It's your contention that Tony tried to run down an irrationally acting man on the racing surface with a Sprint Car for no apparent reason as it isn't possible for Tony to even know what the Yellow was for.
A person might be able to slap a man while he walks by, but you're not going to slap a moving Sprint Car.
RIP Kevin.
Good Luck Tony, I hope you can get through this Tragedy.
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Posted By: CentralPaPosse on August 12 2014 at 08:23:06 PM
Cubic I know you are a big Posse supporter as I am but for fucks sake man you are so way off here. Yes he "hit the gas" to AVOID contact with Ward. I just watched a clip on TV from Cory Sparks (who WAS on the track and WAS a friend of the Ward kid) who said he was confident that Tony burped, gassed, mashed the throttle to AVOID hitting him. For christ sakes man as much as you claim to know about sprint cars you know damn well they dont turn quickly without throttle control. I dont give a damn how much of an ego or an asshole ANY driver is... he DID NOT want to run over the guy. Any other talk on the subject is ridiculous.
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I said that is the contention, why he hit the gas. The only reason I even said it was a lot of posts on here are saying he never even hit the gas at all. They say the engine noise was coming from some phantom car off screen even though most witnesses at the track saw him hit the gas regardless of the video. Hard to know what I say though because the moderator deletes it right away.
They don't even know how to spell sprint car
much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com
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the incident is under investigation, not entered in a popularity contest.
not sure why folks are breaking out in hives over any of these comments - it is not like the sheriff or the DA are looking at websites for conclusive evidence when they clearly stated the terms of the investigation in the two press conferences they held already.
nobody is allowed to talk about racing on the grove board any more...and almost everybody moved to tweets...I guess this place isnt far behind.
look over all the threads on this subject and they are filled with people, who looked at the video and came away convinced TS did nothing "wrong", attempting to reword posts by others that rub their manfur the wrong way.
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Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
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