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October 24, 2013 at
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October 24, 2013 at
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Posted By: vande77 on October 23 2013 at 09:46:17 AM
I think Tod's eyes were opened when Sammy took over for McCarl when it comes to the actual amount of $$ it takes to run a top team (from the sounds of it, Sammy spent ~ 1/2 the amount McCarl did with the same or better results (so the bottom line at the end of the season can still end up better even if you don't win as much or finish worse in ponts).
Another factor that I'm sure Tod takes into consideration is BRANDING, how many more T-shirts is Sammy selling than Craig. If it's double, that means the BRAND of Big Game Treestands is getting DOUBLE the exposure outside of the racetrack by being involved with Sammy over Craig.
No different than the other big sponsors through the years. It's all about ROI, and in sponsorship, ROI includes the merchandise sales as that's advertising that OTHER PEOPLE actually pay to wear as opposed to paying to have a TV commercial or billboard, or ad in a magazine.
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I'm just curious where you got the info that McCarl spent twice as much money as Swindell. McCarl ran a lot more nights per season than Sammy does. He hit Husets weekly at least 6 nights in 2006 and 7 and hit Knoxville on a lot of Woo rainouts and off nights. I get touchy about McCarl criticism with Big Game. Terry developed that relationship and brought them on the road in 2005 from being a local sponsor around Sioux Falls He won races at Knox, WG and Eldora with the Big Game logo on the car and always represented the brand like a pro.
"It took over three thousand bolts to put this here
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October 24, 2013 at
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Shane Stewart to the Big Game Car. Meyers to drive for Larson, in cali, and wherever else! Not following a Schedule.
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October 24, 2013 at
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Posted By: WallStripe on October 24 2013 at 03:04:35 PM
I'm just curious where you got the info that McCarl spent twice as much money as Swindell. McCarl ran a lot more nights per season than Sammy does. He hit Husets weekly at least 6 nights in 2006 and 7 and hit Knoxville on a lot of Woo rainouts and off nights. I get touchy about McCarl criticism with Big Game. Terry developed that relationship and brought them on the road in 2005 from being a local sponsor around Sioux Falls He won races at Knox, WG and Eldora with the Big Game logo on the car and always represented the brand like a pro.
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I never said twice as much $$, just said that Tod's eyes were opened by how much "spending waste" was being done with Terry running the team (let's say Sammy could rn the team and spend $500 less per race night, over the course of a 70 race season that's $35,000, I'd say that's enough to look at your program and who's running it wouldn't you?
When Sammy was subbing for Terry, the plan was to have a 3rd car for Sammy for him to run from time to time once Terry returned to the seat.
I don't know where you've watched McCarl race, but he acts the opposite of professional @ Knoxville (and many other tracks) DURING the night of the race event. It doesn't matter if you represent the sponsor well at PR events and such if you make an A$$ of yourself in front of the main people that see the car race EVERY WEEK. After the races, he's fine and probably one of the best people in the pits, but you can't be Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde...
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October 24, 2013 at
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Go Sammy!
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October 24, 2013 at
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Posted By: Dickie33 on October 23 2013 at 02:36:06 AM
Sprint 82... You sure know a lot don't you.
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If Sprint 82 threw a rock hard enough he's so close to Craig's place he could break a window. ;)
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October 24, 2013 at
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Posted By: vande77 on October 23 2013 at 09:46:17 AM
I think Tod's eyes were opened when Sammy took over for McCarl when it comes to the actual amount of $$ it takes to run a top team (from the sounds of it, Sammy spent ~ 1/2 the amount McCarl did with the same or better results (so the bottom line at the end of the season can still end up better even if you don't win as much or finish worse in ponts).
Another factor that I'm sure Tod takes into consideration is BRANDING, how many more T-shirts is Sammy selling than Craig. If it's double, that means the BRAND of Big Game Treestands is getting DOUBLE the exposure outside of the racetrack by being involved with Sammy over Craig.
No different than the other big sponsors through the years. It's all about ROI, and in sponsorship, ROI includes the merchandise sales as that's advertising that OTHER PEOPLE actually pay to wear as opposed to paying to have a TV commercial or billboard, or ad in a magazine.
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You never said Terry spent twice as much as Sammy, just that Sammy spent half as much as Terry. I see the difference. haha
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October 24, 2013 at
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Along with the extra wins, t shirt sales, and a HOF driver, I am sure having Sammy brings discounted and free parts/engines that the previous driver couldnt.
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October 24, 2013 at
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Henderson will not be the replacement as I believe he is under contract with Brian Sundby for Knoxville in 2014.
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October 24, 2013 at
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Posted By: Beanie82 on October 24 2013 at 12:04:02 AM
I guess sprint 82 is on the inside. He knows his sprint car news
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Straight from Craigs mouth!
A Bad Day Of Sprint Car Racing Is 10 Times Better Than
A Good Day At Work!
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October 24, 2013 at
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Posted By: StanM on October 24 2013 at 05:35:41 PM
If Sprint 82 threw a rock hard enough he's so close to Craig's place he could break a window. 
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LIKE!
A Bad Day Of Sprint Car Racing Is 10 Times Better Than
A Good Day At Work!
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October 24, 2013 at
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Posted By: ROTORGLOW on October 24 2013 at 06:10:02 PM
Henderson will not be the replacement as I believe he is under contract with Brian Sundby for Knoxville in 2014.
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Contracts are funny
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October 24, 2013 at
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Posted By: IBRACN on October 24 2013 at 02:16:41 PM
What I found interesting in the press release was when Craig was quoted saying "I also want to thank all of the marketing partners and manufacturers who have supported us along the way and will be continuing with us into the future."
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Aggressive Hydraulics?
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October 24, 2013 at
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Posted By: racerman454 on October 24 2013 at 03:58:11 PM
Shane Stewart to the Big Game Car. Meyers to drive for Larson, in cali, and wherever else! Not following a Schedule.
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I believe Larson said it to soon for a WoO team. He's helping Colby Copeland out west, nothing else announced that I have heard.
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October 24, 2013 at
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Posted By: longdong on October 24 2013 at 07:44:36 PM
Aggressive Hydraulics?
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And Karavan Trailers...
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October 25, 2013 at
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I heard this from A VERY RELIABLE SOURCE, Mark Kinser will be in the car, and Karl is coming with him!
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October 25, 2013 at
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Yeah I heard from a very reliable source that Rick Ferkel will be in the car.lol
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October 25, 2013 at
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Just read on NSSN that the #7 team is "dissolved." Won't be anyone driving the invisible car.
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October 25, 2013 at
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Posted By: vande77 on October 24 2013 at 04:12:41 PM
I never said twice as much $$, just said that Tod's eyes were opened by how much "spending waste" was being done with Terry running the team (let's say Sammy could rn the team and spend $500 less per race night, over the course of a 70 race season that's $35,000, I'd say that's enough to look at your program and who's running it wouldn't you?
When Sammy was subbing for Terry, the plan was to have a 3rd car for Sammy for him to run from time to time once Terry returned to the seat.
I don't know where you've watched McCarl race, but he acts the opposite of professional @ Knoxville (and many other tracks) DURING the night of the race event. It doesn't matter if you represent the sponsor well at PR events and such if you make an A$$ of yourself in front of the main people that see the car race EVERY WEEK. After the races, he's fine and probably one of the best people in the pits, but you can't be Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde...
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I wasn't in disagreement with you just curious about the numbers.
"It took over three thousand bolts to put this here
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Mark Kinser
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October 25, 2013 at
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Posted By: WallStripe on October 25 2013 at 10:08:31 AM
I wasn't in disagreement with you just curious about the numbers.
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the scary part is it doesn't take much on a "per race" basis teo be a lot at the end of a season.
I'm sure since Sammy started designing parts and pieces for Speedway Motors that that has only helped that bottom line (my guess is they probably don't pay anything for those parts and pieces and they are developing them for Speedway to sell).
I know of a local team (about 5-6 years ago) (for the record, to my knowledge it was not Terry McCarl, it was another local team) that used to give Robert Bell tires every week to time trial with so they'd get "stamped" and then they'd put those tires on their car when the feature rolled around (so they had better tires than everyone else as they only had time trials on them). My guess is that when you figure $200 per tire x both the LR and RR x however many nights of racing, that that added up to a ton (can you imagine an Outlaw team doing so to "circumvent the rules", that'd be $26,000 in EXTRA tires for a 65 night race season (and they were already probably spending $8-1200 per night (3 LR - 1 for TT, 1 for heat and dash, 1 for feature) and 2 RR (1 for TT, heat and dash, another 1 for feature) that would be a $52,000-$78,000 tire bill already not counting front tires).
All that small stuff adds up to a lot over the course of a season....
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