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Topic: Saw this posted by High Limit Series on X/Twitter
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lpjazz
June 21, 2024 at 03:11:32 PM
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Classic know it all example:

- knows all about track prep

- knows all about what should be announced

- knows when to use "there" and "their"


Does not know, better to keep quiet and thought a fool.......you know the rest!

I rest my case!!



Dryslick Willie
June 21, 2024 at 03:19:21 PM
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And you're one of probably three people on this board who care about that.   The rest of us don't give a rat's ass...



Sprinter27R
June 21, 2024 at 04:57:12 PM
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Wow ! I just ran across that High Limit post on X/Twitter and thought it was kinda cool HL did that. I shoulda know it woulda started a pissing war on here between the HL detractors and the WOO detractors. 

  I don't think the Outlaws owe HL a damn thing. I do hope to see them both thrive and have a good rivalry. In the futire I hope the Outlaw regulars will be able to run more than 4 non outlaw races, I think that's about the best anyone can hope for.  


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longtimefan
June 21, 2024 at 09:34:02 PM
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I am not going to argue either way because just care. It is another sport but the Super Bowl winner in usually considered the best but only one time have they not been beat at some time during the season. Same goes for most other sports.



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I think both sanctions desire to grow their brand. They are both businesses.  Growing the sport and growing your brand are vastly different. However both will grow the sport only as much as necessay to achieve their first priority. They both support local grass roots racing becuase they need a feeder system for both drivers and fans. Neither group is putting money or effort into Estevan motor Speedway because that small race track doesnt feed their brand. Racing could grow in Estevan if either sanction was dediciated to seeing it grow. But they arent. They do put effort and money into California and PA cause those tracks do feed their brand.


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Latemodel1
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June 22, 2024 at 01:44:18 AM
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Posted By: SprintFan16 on June 20 2024 at 11:33:22 AM

Regardless of any competitive measure regarding the series or drivers, the Outlaws clearly have a massive advantage in brand recognition. Simply watching the streams and looking at the crowds will tell you that, regardless of quality of cars, drivers or racing.

Like it or not, the Outlaws are clearly perceived to be the gold standard. 

It makes perfect sense for High Limit to try to attach itself to the Outlaws for any reason possible to grow High Limit's brand within the existing and future fan base.

At the same time, it makes perfect sense for the Outlaws to act as if High Limit doesn't exist. In every business I've everbeen in, it has been status quo to ignore competition -even speaking down on it legitimizes said competition.

Not really hard concepts to understand. I still think more time is needed to understand if HL existing has bettered the sport overall, but I personally feel early indications are that it has. 



This has been kind of my point. HL is going to have to earn their stripes. 20 plus years ago same thing. WoO Latemodel "Dirty Dozen" best lm drivers there are. Lucas oil series started and  gave people more good racing to go to. It kept growing and growing and growing. The WoO don't even ignore them now and will give them credit. However, the social media network didn't really exist back then. Things tend to travel and change faster. The outlaws are the gold standard. How long can they maintain that when HL drivers are consitently beating them. Plus HL is promoting their drivers when they go elsewhere and win. Look at their twitter page. Zeb Wise and Jacob Allen are plastered all over it for their wins the last 2 nights. They are mentioning HL in their victory interviews.  New fans are coming in everyday. Are they going be sold on the gold standard or what have you done (or have I seen) lately. I love the WoO (both series), Lucas Oil and I am going to embrace and support HL all the way. To me this has the feel of history repeating itself from 20 years ago with the latemodels. If at the very least, there is starting to be more proof and less doubt the need for 2 national sprint tours.



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June 22, 2024 at 03:24:44 AM
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Let's cut the crap - High Limit is clearly latching on to WoO for relevance. 

Go check Walkapedia's Twitter for supporting evidence - I absolutely loved the guy as a genuine reporter prior to getting hired with HL, but suggesting Husets reschedules an Outlaw sanctioned event to benefit those who are following the High Limit schedule is not a fantastic look. 



saphead
June 22, 2024 at 06:41:40 AM
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I tend to agree with this.

And this is how I slot the top 4 greatest injustices of the racing world:

1.) The Bettenhausen family's starcrossed and tragedy filled quest for victory at Indianapolis.

2.) The WoO not mentioning the High Limit series

3.) Ford Mo.Co. staging a 1-2-3 finish while costing Ken Miles the victory at LeMans in 1966

4.) Eldora exclusively going to Coke products in 2005



Dryslick Willie
June 22, 2024 at 07:05:55 AM
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Posted By: saphead on June 22 2024 at 06:41:40 AM

I tend to agree with this.

And this is how I slot the top 4 greatest injustices of the racing world:

1.) The Bettenhausen family's starcrossed and tragedy filled quest for victory at Indianapolis.

2.) The WoO not mentioning the High Limit series

3.) Ford Mo.Co. staging a 1-2-3 finish while costing Ken Miles the victory at LeMans in 1966

4.) Eldora exclusively going to Coke products in 2005



Hilarious!    Can you add Knoxville going to exclusively Coke products a few years ago?   I've never seen a greater injustice than that myself...



Murphy
June 22, 2024 at 11:43:24 AM
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You realize he's just the announcer-right? You're not dumb enough to believe that he's the one making any decisions about how the WoO is run-right? I mean, you can't really be that ignorant-right?



Parnelli1970
June 22, 2024 at 01:02:15 PM
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Wow what a cry baby. You've got gyour panties wadded so much over a non issue. Instead of just appreciating how much the sport is growing right now you throw a tantrum over nothing. Good don't go to any Woo races in fact don't go at all if something like this gets so upset.



Murphy
June 22, 2024 at 01:14:29 PM
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I'm not sure you understand what the word ignorant means. Do you understand what the term poster child means?



Dryslick Willie
June 22, 2024 at 01:16:51 PM
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Just hang loose, I'm sure someone is relaying this ultra important information on your feelings to Gibson even as we speak.  I'm sure he'll be calling to beg for your forgiveness and will immediately start promoting High Limit when he gets back on the mic.   



revjimk
June 22, 2024 at 01:26:06 PM
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Posted By: beezr2002 on June 21 2024 at 12:34:16 PM

Well, if you can't take a side and get your panties all wadded up over something that you have no conTroll (sp) over I'm not sure your posts are welcome here. And you call yourself a race fan..........................................................................lol.



Why such a hostile response to a pretty harmless & accurate (IMHO) post?

I don't see why people are getting so worked up. Both series are doing well & I think it adds to the sport. I feel sorry for some areas that don't get any HL races, cause they have some terrific lineups...

Looking forward to Tuscarora 50!!!! :)

 



revjimk
June 22, 2024 at 01:29:18 PM
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& of course neither series has any obligation to mention the other...

But HL showed some good sportsmanship to do it

Do they gain anything by mentioning WoO? Maybe so, especially if they whup 'em ;)



beezr2002
June 22, 2024 at 03:03:42 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on June 22 2024 at 01:26:06 PM

Why such a hostile response to a pretty harmless & accurate (IMHO) post?

I don't see why people are getting so worked up. Both series are doing well & I think it adds to the sport. I feel sorry for some areas that don't get any HL races, cause they have some terrific lineups...

Looking forward to Tuscarora 50!!!! Smile

 



LfreakinOL...Pretty sure my response was not to you but to  someone that understands sarcasm.  I'll try to make that more obvious for you next time. But by all means keep jumping into stuff you don't quite understand, that's how we learn.



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Murphy
June 22, 2024 at 05:46:14 PM
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Oh dear. How are they going to be able to afford to continue operating the WoO without your hefty financial support?



HoldenCaulfield
June 22, 2024 at 06:27:23 PM
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Posted By: SprintFan16 on June 20 2024 at 11:33:22 AM

Regardless of any competitive measure regarding the series or drivers, the Outlaws clearly have a massive advantage in brand recognition. Simply watching the streams and looking at the crowds will tell you that, regardless of quality of cars, drivers or racing.

Like it or not, the Outlaws are clearly perceived to be the gold standard. 

It makes perfect sense for High Limit to try to attach itself to the Outlaws for any reason possible to grow High Limit's brand within the existing and future fan base.

At the same time, it makes perfect sense for the Outlaws to act as if High Limit doesn't exist. In every business I've everbeen in, it has been status quo to ignore competition -even speaking down on it legitimizes said competition.

Not really hard concepts to understand. I still think more time is needed to understand if HL existing has bettered the sport overall, but I personally feel early indications are that it has. 



I would think it's getting more and moe difficult for the WOO to keep snubbing when HL drivers keep showing up in WOO VL. 


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June 22, 2024 at 11:54:14 PM
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Posted By: HoldenCaulfield on June 22 2024 at 06:27:23 PM

I would think it's getting more and moe difficult for the WOO to keep snubbing when HL drivers keep showing up in WOO VL. 



I would agree with the overall sentiment but snubbing infers that HL as an entity is deserving of recognition, which I'm not sure I can agree with.

HL drivers winning Outlaw races will definitely help fortify the HL brand, but it's not the Outlaws responsibility to make their fanbase aware of that. 



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