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Topic: lernerville no woo and now no ascoc races for 22
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revjimk
December 03, 2021 at 11:43:01 AM
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Wow, surprise, surprise....



revjimk
December 03, 2021 at 12:39:40 PM
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Thats right, & you can't handle it.... ;)



revjimk
December 03, 2021 at 12:41:07 PM
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So how many hours a day do you spend worrying about the Port Royal track prep? 24?



dsc1600
December 03, 2021 at 03:36:53 PM
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Another thread hijacked....

 



alum.427
December 03, 2021 at 04:27:37 PM
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Strawman. STOP.  Everyone knows you don't care for Port Royal. Just go on to the next thread and quit the bitching. You are totally  out numbered when it comes to anything that happens at the speed palace. My money is on you sitting at home and watching  every lap. Bye



Danimal
December 03, 2021 at 05:14:38 PM
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I'm sick of hearing about how great Port Royal is..this was supposed to be about the once great Lernerville and how far its fallen!  :rolleyes:



lpjazz
December 03, 2021 at 08:15:14 PM
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I'm sick of hearing about how great Port Royal is..this was supposed to be about the once great Lernerville and how far its fallen!  :rolleyes:



So, you and tenter both feel that Lernerville is not what it once was.  It's easy to make a generic statement, so please give us the reason(s) why it is not what it used to be.  I posted earlier just some of the things the Tomson family has done to the track as far as improvements.  While it still needs other things done, it is not being neglected.  Do tell.



dsc1600
December 03, 2021 at 08:23:43 PM
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World of Outlaws Donny Schatz has $80,000 Sprint Car Racing PaydayDon Martin Memorial Silver Cup | World of Outlaws2006 check versus 2021 check. That's one thing they could improve on. 



lpjazz
December 03, 2021 at 08:36:33 PM
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All depends on the event.  This year the firecracker late model show paid $30,000 to win, next year it pays $50,000 to win.



beezr2002
December 04, 2021 at 07:43:56 AM
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Did you work with Mulder and Scully on the X Files?



racer goin broke
December 06, 2021 at 08:29:17 AM
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Does anyone  have a  problem  with the WRG double standards?

This not a post with any problems  with Port Royal  Speedway.   But it is questioning  the standards by which the WRG holds tracks .  How do they award races?

Supposedly the reason  Lernerville lost its Outlaw races was due to switching to a Lucas race.

Did anyone happen to look at Ports just released  schedule.   Port has its  largest payout  late model race and it is a Lucas race.  Also Port has a high paying Dirt Modified  race and it is a STSS race which is sanctioned  by WRG/DIRT biggest Rival.

Plus all of Port Royals biggest paying sprint races are all sanctioned  by the ALL STARS.

So Port has most of its biggest  races of the year sanctioned  by WRG's biggest competition  and the reward for doing that is to be awarded  additional  WoO sprint races.

But Lernerville  switched a late model race and wanted to add a WoO late model race ( just like Port has) and keep the WoO sprints as the two highest paying sprint shows at the track.   And for that kind of "disloyalty " Lernerville got castigated. 

Things that make a person go hmm?  And why did Lernerville  really lose its races?

Anyone else see the double standard?   

 



beezr2002
December 06, 2021 at 09:39:48 AM
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And you happened to be the first one to twitch.



dsc1600
December 06, 2021 at 10:30:41 AM
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Does anyone  have a  problem  with the WRG double standards?

This not a post with any problems  with Port Royal  Speedway.   But it is questioning  the standards by which the WRG holds tracks .  How do they award races?

Supposedly the reason  Lernerville lost its Outlaw races was due to switching to a Lucas race.

Did anyone happen to look at Ports just released  schedule.   Port has its  largest payout  late model race and it is a Lucas race.  Also Port has a high paying Dirt Modified  race and it is a STSS race which is sanctioned  by WRG/DIRT biggest Rival.

Plus all of Port Royals biggest paying sprint races are all sanctioned  by the ALL STARS.

So Port has most of its biggest  races of the year sanctioned  by WRG's biggest competition  and the reward for doing that is to be awarded  additional  WoO sprint races.

But Lernerville  switched a late model race and wanted to add a WoO late model race ( just like Port has) and keep the WoO sprints as the two highest paying sprint shows at the track.   And for that kind of "disloyalty " Lernerville got castigated. 

Things that make a person go hmm?  And why did Lernerville  really lose its races?

Anyone else see the double standard?   

 



I don't think it's having a race with another sanction, I think if Lernerville wanted to have a Lucas Oil race in May, I doubt they'd have lost their WoO races. I think it was the promoter surprising the WoO by just switching the sanctioning on the biggest LM race without having a meeting or whatever. This is a quote from the promoter of Lernerville:

“One of the things that happened here was the Lucas series was working on their schedule more aggressively on the clock than the World of Outlaws are. We will be having discussions with them about renewing the sprint car races, and if there is a proposal that comes along for another World of Outlaws late model race, who knows where that may lead? Right now, the World of Outlaws are not yet planning their 2022 schedule where we can have those discussions just yet.”

So it seems like Lucas Oil reached out, offered more money and they took it without understanding how that might effect the sprint car side. Which to me is idiotic, but who knows?

There was also talk that Lernerville wanted more of a cut of the streaming dollars, but not sure if there is validity to that rumor. 



HoldenCaulfield
December 08, 2021 at 06:28:53 PM
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Posted By: alum.427 on November 30 2021 at 06:33:57 AM

Lernerville will soon be fighting to stay alive. The area surrounding the track keeps growing yearly. Residential and commercial values are steadily on the rise. I'm not sure who owns the property the track sits on. I am sure the Martin family has nothing to do with the daily operation of the facilities. It would not surprise me to learn that they lease the property.



Geez I haven't been out there in a few years but last time I was it was in the middle of nowhere, near Pittsburgh but you would never know it. If any track is in danger of urban sprawl, I'd say it is Williams Grove. It's astonishing/alarming how much residential housing has popped near the track in the last few decades. 


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HoldenCaulfield
December 08, 2021 at 06:35:58 PM
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Racing wise I've always thought Lernerville was the best track in PA. You hardly ever see a bad show there.


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