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"We're seeing a greatness that is a different type of greatness.  How many drivers make it as big as he has, win a million dollars on Sunday night, and then bust ass to Ohio to run 3 straight $6000 to win races?  He loves to race.  He loves the fans.  He is nothing but good for the sport of racing."

BINGO!

WAAAYYY too much attention on that 23 car.....i used to pull for the guy, but not so much anymore.  honestly, i cheer against him

You know that kid ain't too bad. Kinda bad to say but getting canned last year might have been the best thing to happen for his career.

Yep, the only one that got screwed in that deal was Chip Ganassi.   He lost the best driver out there and wound up with Ross Chastain.    Larson makes the biggest mistake you can make and lands with Hendrick.   Somehow or another he did well for himself.    

Larson leaving Ganassi and going to Hendricks was happening no matter what. Stewart-Hass might have had a shot. Larson probably just had to take a smaller contract due to not having the sponsorship pull. 

Not the case.  Larson stated on several occasions that his loyalty would be to Ganassi.  

Yea so Ganassi did give him the break he needed. But from there it was a case of quality of ride. Ganassi puts the biggest effort into his indy car team #1. Ford gave him a blank check to run Le Mans and win which he did. To me the cup team is missing something, engineers, personal, money, who knows. It is not the top quality ride some think it is. It's in line with childress and roush. I think jack roush would walk away if they could find a buyer.

Kyle is a racer.One word changed his path but looks like for the better. About the 23 its good to have another car but IMHO too much hype and take away the rope pull ,confederate flag, BLM not much to talk about.Willie T.Ribbs might be a good replacement.

there hasn't been too much attention given to the 23.  he hasn't been a factor in most races.  

the problem is a lot of people don't want any attention given to the 23...unless he crashes so they can run to twitter and post about how happy they are.

i would propose a challenge for kyle larson assuming he could get truck and xfinity rides.  race the grove friday, trucks and cup saturday at pocono, lincoln saturday night, xfinity and cup on sunday, and baps on sunday night.  i'm sure he could get a helicopter to move him around.  he probably looks at pa as the state that saved his career.  he'll own it forever if he does something like that.

I guess I am oblivious to all of the extra attention given to the 23 as well.  I haven't heard him mentioned for weeks unless he was the cause of a caution.  Can someone explain to me where he is getting all of this undeserved attention?  When I turn on the TV on Sundays, the camera seems to be focused on the leader of the race or where the side by side battles are happening.  Not too much opportunity for the 23 to be showcased.  Am i not watching on the same channel?

I also saw on social media today that the reason Denny Hamlin is leading the points is because they don't want Kyle Larson to lead them.     ??????     I hate Nascar's points system as much as everyone else, but we have some real rocket scientists in our midst.  

Also, I like your idea about Larson in PA------just not sure how much Mr. Hendrick would like it.  ;)

Now he's dominating NASCAR

Its amazing... Husets tonite!

It's hard to compare the old greats against the new. Just like 500 through 700 horsepower up against 900 plus horsepower. I am fortunate enough to have enjoyed them most. But Kyle is one bad mother fucker�

We need more sprint car racing at our home track.

Thats why I said "of this millennium".  That would be since the year 2000

Therefore no real "old greats"

Make it 3 of us that is oblivious to all of the extra attention given to the 23. Only attention I really heard about him was at the beginning of the year and I think it more centered around Michael Jordan & Denny Hamlin owning a race team, and how that team would perform given those owner's reputation. Bubba just happened to be the driver. I think some of the people that get upset about any type of attention it gets whether its a spin or just a regular pre race interview are again, just looking for ways to complain and be miserable with their lives. I have not really seen Bubba do anything wrong as far as character or something that no other driver hasn't done prior to him, he just unfortunately got pulled into the Larson discussion because the Nascar media asked him about it. He didn't chastise Larson last year or say anything demeaning about him during the whole incident but listening to how some people comment about him you would think that Wallace said we should all burn Larson at the stake which is not anything he inferred. Not to mention, it seems that a majority of people have moved on past the incident including Larson and Wallace so makes me wonder (not really) what type of motiviation one has to keep bringing it up.

Nascar would do itself some good to get a better point system. I think they would most likely get a lot more fan support if they would go back to something similar to the old way where the champion is based on the full season. Not 26 races, then 3, another, 3 more, then 4 driver determine the champion in 1 race.

You don't see the 23 in the previews and commericals for NASCAR? You don't notice when the National Anthem is played, the camera almost always shows him? You don't notice that numerous times in every race, they show the 23 car (which is running in its customary 16th-25th place positions)? Why do you think that is? They don't show any of the other drivers/cars that run in that same vicinity. Regardless of his equipiment, he's no better than a 16-25 place driver. Let's look at the current standings in NASCAR. As of today, Wallace is in 21st place. Here's a list of 7 drivers ahead of him in the standings that you RARELY see in pre-race images. Reddick, Bell (won in'21), Buescher, McDowell (won in '21), Chastain, Stenhouse and DiBenedetto. I'm not saying Bubba Wallace is a bad person and I wish him no ill will. I just think it's comical when people say they don't notice an agenda being thrown into their collective faces. NASCAR is just trying to appease the social injustice crowd.

My life is nothing close to miserable. I don't own NASCAR. I don't own a race team. I don't own a television network. I am just a racing fan that observes the preferential media coverage given to that driver/team.  If you don't see it, you are (as you said) oblivious. 

I really liked Bubba before all of this protest/noose/anthem stuff. After all that though? I like him even more. For many reasons. One of the main reasons is because of how just his mere existence pisses off a certain portion of race fans. I enjoy watching them getting worked up.

I don't think its some big conspiracy theory on why he gets a bit more attention than other drivers in the area of the field where he races. He is the only African American driver, and NASCAR already appeals to every white male in the country. It's the same reason Danica got a lot of attention and why Deegan will too. In order to grow the fan base the only options NASCAR has are to bring in fans from different demographics. They focus a bit more on diverse drivers when they can because there are only 2-3 non white males in the field at any time. I don't think NASCAR is going to grow no matter what they do as it's boring in comparision to other racing IMO (and obviously in the opinion of the millions of fans who have stopped watching in the past 15 years) but they are doing the only thing they can to get the attention of whatever potential fans they don't already appeal to. 

Did you like him when he threw water in Alex Bowman's and an EMT's face when he was being treated for heat exhaustion? How about when he took to national TV to bash NASCAR fans (over a hoax)? Class act.

I thought the thing with Bowman was a chickenshit move on Bubba's behalf. Just because I am a fan of someone doesnt mean I am going to back them 100% of the time, no matter what. Life isn't always binary.  Come on.

Hoseheads message board.  The only place a person can go where everyone hates NASCAR but have proclaimed someone second in Cup points as the greatest Sprint Car driver of all time.  If a guy sits back and watches it can provide a lot of entertainment.  ;)

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