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Topic: Ryan Smith holds off Schatz at Port Royal to capture first WoO victory
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19 Posse
October 27, 2014 at 09:59:12 AM
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It was one of the best races I've seen this year.

I think Donny would have got him in another lap or 2...Did Ryan Taylor hold Schatz up just enough to give Ryan Smith the win? 



BigRightRear
October 27, 2014 at 10:04:23 AM
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Smith worked his way by the 20 car...not sure he put a mirror on after that pass and "knew" who was trying to pass him the next lap?

The cool part is nobody accused Ryan Smith of winning with traction control!


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
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scottb15
October 27, 2014 at 10:10:35 AM
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I'm a Schatz fan, but I'm not gonna take anything way from Smith he drove a great race and did what he had to do to beat the best. Good hard clean racing.



henry chinaski
October 27, 2014 at 10:23:00 AM
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 Congrats to Smith for a well deserved WoO victory. Beating the Outlaws is a career defining moment. 

pubicdoghairs, just so your set straight on your "facts" the Outlaws were swept by the Cali locals at the Gold Cup. Oh and there was the matter of local boy Rico whipping on them at Tulare in the spring too. It happens now and again around the country but that doesnt change the fact that the Outlaws have the best in the business amongst their ranks. To beat them means you've beat the best!


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baggo23t
October 27, 2014 at 11:03:06 AM
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I am pretty sure Schtaz has beat the posse plenty of times... It's a lot of fun to watch him win all over the world... Be nice to see the posse travel but I guess if they arent right at home they might not win so we wouldnt want that now...



HoldenCaulfield
October 27, 2014 at 05:16:56 PM
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Posted By: StaggerLee on October 26 2014 at 04:04:52 PM

Not sure what race you watched, there was at least 3 lanes all night to the last lap. Probably the best woo race  in pa this year, even if Schatz would have won. Great surface all night long.



+1 Apparently the OP didn't bother so much as to even watch the highlights before spouting off. 1 of the best races I saw all year.


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HoldenCaulfield
October 27, 2014 at 05:21:45 PM
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Posted By: 19 Posse on October 27 2014 at 09:59:12 AM

It was one of the best races I've seen this year.

I think Donny would have got him in another lap or 2...Did Ryan Taylor hold Schatz up just enough to give Ryan Smith the win? 



Yes he did but I don't think it was intentional, just racing. Donny was pulling off the bottom of 2 better than Ryan was though the middle but I think Ryan was better through 3-4, and he made the right moves at the right times to put a lapped car inbetween. Another 5 laps and I don't know but you could say that about a lot of races. 


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longtimefan
October 27, 2014 at 05:25:03 PM
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The comment about three leaders at an Outlaw race doesn't even begin to cover the lead changes in this race as does not the scoring. I am not sure how many lead changes there were in this race, I would guess ten or twelve as the lead changed  two or more times in a lap between Madsen and Wolfe then Smith and Wolfe. I would like to see the whole video as the partial ones I have seen didn't show all the lead changes. I think most Pa. fans would have considered it a good race even if Schatz had won it. 



HoldenCaulfield
October 27, 2014 at 05:29:23 PM
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Posted By: gators0849 on October 26 2014 at 03:49:24 PM

Well said.



Yeah the fan response to Schatz during his 2nd place interview was nothing short of embarassing. Our guy just won! Show some class my fellow posse fans. Donny handled the boos and heckling with class like he usually does. Donny has always been respectful and complimentive of the PA drivers and fans. I'll bet this makes him want to win even more the next time he comes to PA though.  

 

 

 


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kossuth
October 28, 2014 at 09:57:20 PM
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Posted By: HoldenCaulfield on October 27 2014 at 05:29:23 PM

Yeah the fan response to Schatz during his 2nd place interview was nothing short of embarassing. Our guy just won! Show some class my fellow posse fans. Donny handled the boos and heckling with class like he usually does. Donny has always been respectful and complimentive of the PA drivers and fans. I'll bet this makes him want to win even more the next time he comes to PA though.  

 

 

 



It wasn't all of us Holden, just a vocal few. 



HoldenCaulfield
October 29, 2014 at 05:57:30 PM
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Posted By: kossuth on October 28 2014 at 09:57:20 PM

It wasn't all of us Holden, just a vocal few. 



Right, I understand that but sometimes the vocal few make everyone look like assholes. Now if Donny had pulled a dirty move or said something to incite the crowd I would boo too, but he didn't. He raced cleanly and put on a good show when a couple times he was probbaly close enough to drive Ryan off the track, like some might do. Donny is a good, hard but clean racer. I respect him for that even if he isn't the most fan friendly driver in the world. Gotta show them all respect.


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table for 2
October 30, 2014 at 09:11:11 AM
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I have been watching Ryan smith for a couple years  in 410s and he is really impressive.

I do not think they have a big race team and he always seem to be in the thick of every show.

Last year Tusky 50 think he got 3rd or 4th this year Tusky think 5th.Do not know exactly where he finished in grove points

 but think top 5..I was at port on sat outlaw race and not only was that one of the best sprint car shows i have ever

 seen, That kid drove one hell of a race!! My wife and I went to his trailer after race and there were 100 people there getting autographs and pictures, we waited for over a half hour just to shake his hand and he is very humble and a very nice kid..

Read one story that said at port royal there are only 4 non outlaws that have one a outlaw race ,

Lynn Paxton, Don Kreitz, Doug Wolfgang and Ryan Smith.  

 



SLINK51
October 31, 2014 at 06:10:35 PM
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Posted By: table for 2 on October 30 2014 at 09:11:11 AM

I have been watching Ryan smith for a couple years  in 410s and he is really impressive.

I do not think they have a big race team and he always seem to be in the thick of every show.

Last year Tusky 50 think he got 3rd or 4th this year Tusky think 5th.Do not know exactly where he finished in grove points

 but think top 5..I was at port on sat outlaw race and not only was that one of the best sprint car shows i have ever

 seen, That kid drove one hell of a race!! My wife and I went to his trailer after race and there were 100 people there getting autographs and pictures, we waited for over a half hour just to shake his hand and he is very humble and a very nice kid..

Read one story that said at port royal there are only 4 non outlaws that have one a outlaw race ,

Lynn Paxton, Don Kreitz, Doug Wolfgang and Ryan Smith.  

 



The 94 is  bigger and has more $  than you think. 



table for 2
November 01, 2014 at 08:11:59 AM
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I know one his crew guys and he told me they have 2 motors and 1 car... thats not that big



disclaimer101
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November 01, 2014 at 09:18:51 AM
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What he was saying is Rob has plenty of money $50 /100 million a year company with 1000 plus employees. It means what he has is GOOD stuff just because he doesn't have ten of them doesn't say it is not good stuff. With Ryan being a local team and parts all around him for purchase.



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Posted By: SLINK51 on October 31 2014 at 06:10:35 PM

The 94 is  bigger and has more $  than you think. 



Slink51...you know something I dont? I run Ryans Pr and as his publisist Im here to tell you....WE ARE...LOOKING FOR SPONSORS! Mr. Warko is a great supporter and team owner and he has been a huge part of this teams success. The motor used to win that race was sporting 15 yr old heads and technology almost as old as the man wheeling that machine. The car is the ONLY Triple X in the stable. We traded a chassis to get it only a few weeks ago. If this team has big money we sure as hell arent spending it foolishly thats for sure.

We are still floating on air...winning a WoO is a dream come true for any 410 driver. Ryan and his team have worked hard....damn hard to see that dream come true. SEE YOU ALL IN CHARLOTTE!!!

 

RYAN'S goals and those of his team are to make a run at the Outlaws on a regualr basis....that takes BIG MONEY. LOL We are far from BIG MONEY!


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SLINK51
November 01, 2014 at 11:34:44 PM
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Slink51...you know something I dont? I run Ryans Pr and as his publisist Im here to tell you....WE ARE...LOOKING FOR SPONSORS! Mr. Warko is a great supporter and team owner and he has been a huge part of this teams success. The motor used to win that race was sporting 15 yr old heads and technology almost as old as the man wheeling that machine. The car is the ONLY Triple X in the stable. We traded a chassis to get it only a few weeks ago. If this team has big money we sure as hell arent spending it foolishly thats for sure.

We are still floating on air...winning a WoO is a dream come true for any 410 driver. Ryan and his team have worked hard....damn hard to see that dream come true. SEE YOU ALL IN CHARLOTTE!!!

 

RYAN'S goals and those of his team are to make a run at the Outlaws on a regualr basis....that takes BIG MONEY. LOL We are far from BIG MONEY!



Last year with Matt Mountz still driving, The team had a car for every division 305 358 and a 410. Some nights they ran both the 410 and 358 at the Grove and Lincoln. Sorry if I thought wrong. I remember seeing a pic with all of the cars in it, and thought wow they have more $ than I thought.



SLINK51
November 01, 2014 at 11:45:06 PM
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Here is the pic that came with the annoucement last year that Smith was the new driver of the 94. Don't seem like a team with a shoestring budget to me.

 



HoldenCaulfield
November 02, 2014 at 05:19:42 AM
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Here is the pic that came with the annoucement last year that Smith was the new driver of the 94. Don't seem like a team with a shoestring budget to me.

 



Don't know, but apparently they ahve a big enough budget to tow to Charlotte. Hope they do well!


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Posted By: HoldenCaulfield on November 02 2014 at 05:19:42 AM

Don't know, but apparently they ahve a big enough budget to tow to Charlotte. Hope they do well!



Most of the teams previous race efforts with Matt were 358s. And yes they did have a great bunch of equip. Ryan and the team know that once you step up to the 410 ranks the game gets expensive quickly and one you take on the outlaws is another step UP in expenses.  So the teams budget is spent as smartly as possible. To say a shoe string budget might be a bit much. But I will say the team doesnt have a bunch of chassis's sitting there waiting for 410 use. Nor does it have a vault of motors to pull off the shelf. We, like any team have a group of sponsors who step up when engines need rebuilt, travel expenses need a little help, tire....oh lord the tires. Mr Warko has done a great job supporting this team, the shop, the hauler, the bodies, the wings, the chassis's...yes and he is very deserving to have his name on that big wing! But this is a team effort by all of our sponsors. Every dime counts ...even I am a small sponsor and I am proud to have my name on that suit! But with any team...you never have too much $$$ in your quest for Victory Lane!


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