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Topic: Danny Holtgraver To Race For Phoenix Racing
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Sprintcreb
October 15, 2014 at 08:20:12 PM
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Posted By: dannyfan on October 15 2014 at 07:58:59 PM

The last two years danny has finished in the top 3 with all stars behind blaney and shaff. Chad is good but past prime is what I'm saying. Danny is the future!



Danny fan  I was told that Rob told Danny he was going to  park the car after Lernerville. Was also told that Danny's dad was 80% of the reason for the split. Not that stuff doesn't get tore up but Danny had some bad luck there for awhile where a lot of stuff was tore up Props for the 10h for hanging in there.



dannyfan
October 15, 2014 at 08:29:20 PM
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Posted By: Sprintcreb on October 15 2014 at 08:20:12 PM

Danny fan  I was told that Rob told Danny he was going to  park the car after Lernerville. Was also told that Danny's dad was 80% of the reason for the split. Not that stuff doesn't get tore up but Danny had some bad luck there for awhile where a lot of stuff was tore up Props for the 10h for hanging in there.



Danny has torn up one car in the last two years and that was at the burg this year. If Danny's dad was the problem then that's cheesy way of getting rid of danny don't you think? Brian and Rob didn't get along last year either so you think that will work now?  You ask any race team about the crew that 10h had and see if they have one negative thing to say. Nope! Then ask about Brian and see. More then just about wrenching



Sprintcreb
October 15, 2014 at 08:41:38 PM
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Posted By: dannyfan on October 15 2014 at 08:29:20 PM

Danny has torn up one car in the last two years and that was at the burg this year. If Danny's dad was the problem then that's cheesy way of getting rid of danny don't you think? Brian and Rob didn't get along last year either so you think that will work now?  You ask any race team about the crew that 10h had and see if they have one negative thing to say. Nope! Then ask about Brian and see. More then just about wrenching



Just remember being in the stand at Fremont or Attica can't remember which and the pa announcer interviewing Danny and him saying something about alot of torn up cars to that point. Brian Kemenahs may be tough to deal with don't know personally but aren't we all at time to time. Brian is still one of the best crew-chiefs out there,has Danny's Dad ever won the KNOXVILLE NATIONAL.  Don't think so but if he has please let me know,I may be wrong.



dannyfan
October 15, 2014 at 08:57:20 PM
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Posted By: Sprintcreb on October 15 2014 at 08:41:38 PM

Just remember being in the stand at Fremont or Attica can't remember which and the pa announcer interviewing Danny and him saying something about alot of torn up cars to that point. Brian Kemenahs may be tough to deal with don't know personally but aren't we all at time to time. Brian is still one of the best crew-chiefs out there,has Danny's Dad ever won the KNOXVILLE NATIONAL.  Don't think so but if he has please let me know,I may be wrong.



Danny's dad wasn't the crew chief! Sounds like you have a problem with Dan! Like I said past is history danny is future. Chad is good guy don't get me wrong my opinion . Plus the last time I checked Shaffer drove the car and the leaders tire blew with two laps left to get win Brian wasnt



dannyfan
October 15, 2014 at 09:08:36 PM
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Ok enough with arguing !!! Owner/driver/crew makes any team in any sport and that's the truth bro!!!!!



Sprintcreb
October 15, 2014 at 09:18:47 PM
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Posted By: dannyfan on October 15 2014 at 08:29:20 PM

Danny has torn up one car in the last two years and that was at the burg this year. If Danny's dad was the problem then that's cheesy way of getting rid of danny don't you think? Brian and Rob didn't get along last year either so you think that will work now?  You ask any race team about the crew that 10h had and see if they have one negative thing to say. Nope! Then ask about Brian and see. More then just about wrenching



Danny fan you got my mind wondering so looked up a few things on Brian Kemenahs.  Won 8 All star championships, 1 Knoxville NationalsWinner.Over 100 Allstar A mains as a crew-chief. 2nd twice at Nationals a 3rd. Two 5ths all at the Knoxville Nationals. Outlaw wins don't know. Looks like if I had a car he would be my choice as a crew-chief.  Danny can't be to upset for the breakup.Was told his Dad said that he had an offer to drive the 9w car on the Outlaw tour and turned that down.



Sprintcreb
October 15, 2014 at 09:21:37 PM
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Posted By: dannyfan on October 15 2014 at 09:08:36 PM

Ok enough with arguing !!! Owner/driver/crew makes any team in any sport and that's the truth bro!!!!!



All in fun just my opinions. Have a good night. PS are you Danny Sr?



Sprintcreb
October 15, 2014 at 09:30:01 PM
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Posted By: dannyfan on October 15 2014 at 09:08:36 PM

Ok enough with arguing !!! Owner/driver/crew makes any team in any sport and that's the truth bro!!!!!



Don't take the win away from Shaffer. A wins a win. You can say a lot of ifs at the Nationals every year. if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.



sprinty11
October 16, 2014 at 03:40:02 AM
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So sprintcreb only posts (or joined) to talk up Kemenah??  Interesting. 



kart91
October 16, 2014 at 07:38:23 AM
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Battling like one of these guys is out of a ride.  This is a win/win situation to me.  Holtgraver to the 59 car, which has shown plenty of speed and has a really good crew chief.  And Kemenah in the 10h with Brian again.  If this doesn't get Chad back up to the front and winning races, nothing will.  Good for both guys and for both car owners.



Sprintcreb
October 16, 2014 at 09:21:39 AM
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Posted By: sprinty11 on October 16 2014 at 03:40:02 AM

So sprintcreb only posts (or joined) to talk up Kemenah??  Interesting. 



Sprinty11, If you are questioning who I am I will tell you,I am not part of the 10h in any way. Just a sprintcar spectator,and yes a Kemenah fan. Look at the Dannyfan post and read carefully it's obvious that he is Danny's father doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.



sprinty11
October 16, 2014 at 10:09:21 AM
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Well...tell us then.



dannyfan
October 16, 2014 at 08:02:41 PM
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Posted By: Sprintcreb on October 16 2014 at 09:21:39 AM

Sprinty11, If you are questioning who I am I will tell you,I am not part of the 10h in any way. Just a sprintcar spectator,and yes a Kemenah fan. Look at the Dannyfan post and read carefully it's obvious that he is Danny's father doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.



I'm not Dan Sr. I'm also just a sprint car fan. I didn't want to start shit just stating my opinion. I wasn't bashing Chad or Brian. I was just saying that it's Danny's time is all.Brian is a great crew chief never denied that but he doesn't drive the car. I wasn't even bashing Rob Hunter just stating my opinion. I'm happy for danny to get a chance to be in 59 car gray opportunity. Why are people always looking to prove somebody's opinion wrong? 



speedy78
October 17, 2014 at 11:53:44 AM
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Posted By: Sprintcreb on October 15 2014 at 08:20:12 PM

Danny fan  I was told that Rob told Danny he was going to  park the car after Lernerville. Was also told that Danny's dad was 80% of the reason for the split. Not that stuff doesn't get tore up but Danny had some bad luck there for awhile where a lot of stuff was tore up Props for the 10h for hanging in there.



Well first off i would like to say Danny is one heck of a driver.  He knows how to preserve equiptment, know how to drive smoothly and has the veteran style of foot to match.  And when he needs to get up on the wheel, the boy can!  He was brought up through his 410 carrer by the one the best in the business and it sure does show.  He has made a name for himself more than you probably realize and is respected by drivers all over and when racing with some of the best knows how to go about it in a clean fashion and still put on a hell of a show which is what everyone from the drivers, to team owners to the track promoters are looking for and is gonna be a future star because of everything i just said.  

Secondly, clearly you dont know your facts to well.  80%?  like where did you get that number from.  You seem to be more of a person that goes off of numbers and stats so for you to throw out a number like that seems pretty dumb to me but what do i know.  Clearly your only info is stats though, you inside info is not even valid at all abotu the 10H team.  Sure Chad and Brian will be together, but if you think thats a big money team i have some bad news for you.  Yes Rob has the money and he is gonna really have to spend it now becuase I know almost all of those sponsors on the car were not the teams sponsors, they were dannys and if you think they are gonna stay with the 10H team tell me why, cuase i just dont see what the point would be, especially with all the drama that will come out of a program like that.  Also sure chad has the resume to be able to still get rides but what has he done lately and how about his consistancy?  The only reason that team will do well is because of Brian.  He has more knowlage about the sport than alot of people out there.  He is one nice guy, is known around the racing world, brings some of the best set up skills to the plate and is always trying new things no matter how small.  But since you know those two so well, you understand that how long workign well together will last is always up in the air too.  But those are the only reasons Chad will do ok, if you think it will be because Chads driving skills, you are sadly mistaken.  

But hey i just wanna say good luck to danny with the 59 ride the rest of the season and next season also.  I know he will fit right in and be a great addition to that team.  Also good luck to him this winter with his ride down in Australia, thats gonna be great for not only his experience but for him to be fresh when florida comes around and i cant wait to see if pay off.  But hey what do i know, he is no Chad right?



Little guy
October 17, 2014 at 08:03:10 PM
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Posted By: speedy78 on October 17 2014 at 11:53:44 AM

Well first off i would like to say Danny is one heck of a driver.  He knows how to preserve equiptment, know how to drive smoothly and has the veteran style of foot to match.  And when he needs to get up on the wheel, the boy can!  He was brought up through his 410 carrer by the one the best in the business and it sure does show.  He has made a name for himself more than you probably realize and is respected by drivers all over and when racing with some of the best knows how to go about it in a clean fashion and still put on a hell of a show which is what everyone from the drivers, to team owners to the track promoters are looking for and is gonna be a future star because of everything i just said.  

Secondly, clearly you dont know your facts to well.  80%?  like where did you get that number from.  You seem to be more of a person that goes off of numbers and stats so for you to throw out a number like that seems pretty dumb to me but what do i know.  Clearly your only info is stats though, you inside info is not even valid at all abotu the 10H team.  Sure Chad and Brian will be together, but if you think thats a big money team i have some bad news for you.  Yes Rob has the money and he is gonna really have to spend it now becuase I know almost all of those sponsors on the car were not the teams sponsors, they were dannys and if you think they are gonna stay with the 10H team tell me why, cuase i just dont see what the point would be, especially with all the drama that will come out of a program like that.  Also sure chad has the resume to be able to still get rides but what has he done lately and how about his consistancy?  The only reason that team will do well is because of Brian.  He has more knowlage about the sport than alot of people out there.  He is one nice guy, is known around the racing world, brings some of the best set up skills to the plate and is always trying new things no matter how small.  But since you know those two so well, you understand that how long workign well together will last is always up in the air too.  But those are the only reasons Chad will do ok, if you think it will be because Chads driving skills, you are sadly mistaken.  

But hey i just wanna say good luck to danny with the 59 ride the rest of the season and next season also.  I know he will fit right in and be a great addition to that team.  Also good luck to him this winter with his ride down in Australia, thats gonna be great for not only his experience but for him to be fresh when florida comes around and i cant wait to see if pay off.  But hey what do i know, he is no Chad right?



Well first I would like to ask, can Chad drive a car?   I remember Liaski interviewing Danny and talking about how much he wrecks.  Danny went thru alot of equipment, won Eldora then tore up the car the next three nights in a row of Speedweek.  I know Big Dan and every week he always said it was some other drivers fault.  He even said Schaff took Danny out on purpose at Port and wow did he flip hard that night.  The Burg flip was one of the worst I have seen.  Big Dan blamed that on Haud, and he said at Lernerville that wreck was caused by Lee Jacobs.   Lima, Freemont and Attica wrecks, I can't remember what Dan told me.   Dan can talk faster than the auctioneers at the auction.  Glad he had those great sponsors to pay for all that equipment.   Danny Deitrich might be a good driver for the 10h as he passed that car alot this year. 

I live near Big Dan and what a scrap yard they have outback due to this season.   Any truth to the Kemenahs buying four new Kistlers and several new cars?  Brian Kemenah must make some big bucks?  I dont dislike Chad, Dan or Danny but I do love to watch sprint car racing. 

Good luck Danny, Good Luck Chad, drivers change rides all the time so move on and race!



lpjazz
October 17, 2014 at 08:34:26 PM
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Posted By: Little guy on October 17 2014 at 08:03:10 PM

Well first I would like to ask, can Chad drive a car?   I remember Liaski interviewing Danny and talking about how much he wrecks.  Danny went thru alot of equipment, won Eldora then tore up the car the next three nights in a row of Speedweek.  I know Big Dan and every week he always said it was some other drivers fault.  He even said Schaff took Danny out on purpose at Port and wow did he flip hard that night.  The Burg flip was one of the worst I have seen.  Big Dan blamed that on Haud, and he said at Lernerville that wreck was caused by Lee Jacobs.   Lima, Freemont and Attica wrecks, I can't remember what Dan told me.   Dan can talk faster than the auctioneers at the auction.  Glad he had those great sponsors to pay for all that equipment.   Danny Deitrich might be a good driver for the 10h as he passed that car alot this year. 

I live near Big Dan and what a scrap yard they have outback due to this season.   Any truth to the Kemenahs buying four new Kistlers and several new cars?  Brian Kemenah must make some big bucks?  I dont dislike Chad, Dan or Danny but I do love to watch sprint car racing. 

Good luck Danny, Good Luck Chad, drivers change rides all the time so move on and race!



I was wondering if you attended any of these races Dan Sr. mentioned?  I was at Lernerville and it was Jacobs fault.  The other races I cannot speak of so I will not confirm or deny.  I have tracked Danny for the past 4-5 years and I can personally tell you that he takes care of the equipment.  I personally would like him to take more chances, but I do understand him taking what the car will give him.  If I was a car owner and had my choice of Chad or Danny it would be Danny hands down.  I think Chad is a great driver and have nothing against him, but he has not done anything in how long?  Yes, you can make the argument that it is equipment or crew chief or that he was up against the outlaws for how many years, but Danny is on the rise.  He has quite a few years experience, has put together some impressive stats, and will just continue to scale the sprint car ranks.  The guy is only 24-25 years old.  He has so many great years ahead of him and will no doubt be a one of the stars in sprint cars for a long time.



SprintFan19
October 17, 2014 at 08:49:11 PM
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Well first I would like to ask, can Chad drive a car?   I remember Liaski interviewing Danny and talking about how much he wrecks.  Danny went thru alot of equipment, won Eldora then tore up the car the next three nights in a row of Speedweek.  I know Big Dan and every week he always said it was some other drivers fault.  He even said Schaff took Danny out on purpose at Port and wow did he flip hard that night.  The Burg flip was one of the worst I have seen.  Big Dan blamed that on Haud, and he said at Lernerville that wreck was caused by Lee Jacobs.   Lima, Freemont and Attica wrecks, I can't remember what Dan told me.   Dan can talk faster than the auctioneers at the auction.  Glad he had those great sponsors to pay for all that equipment.   Danny Deitrich might be a good driver for the 10h as he passed that car alot this year. 

I live near Big Dan and what a scrap yard they have outback due to this season.   Any truth to the Kemenahs buying four new Kistlers and several new cars?  Brian Kemenah must make some big bucks?  I dont dislike Chad, Dan or Danny but I do love to watch sprint car racing. 

Good luck Danny, Good Luck Chad, drivers change rides all the time so move on and race!



From a complete outsider, Chad is selling his Nationals roller in the classifieds.  His father in law is Bob Hampshire, engine builder.  He is driving for Scott Euler right now, not a well funded ride.  My guess is that if new engines are being purchased, it's with someone else's money.  While Brian works for Kistler, there's probably not much of an employee discount on a 50K motor.  Probably a lot of rumors right now about who nd what is involved in their new deal.



Sprintcreb
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From a complete outsider, Chad is selling his Nationals roller in the classifieds.  His father in law is Bob Hampshire, engine builder.  He is driving for Scott Euler right now, not a well funded ride.  My guess is that if new engines are being purchased, it's with someone else's money.  While Brian works for Kistler, there's probably not much of an employee discount on a 50K motor.  Probably a lot of rumors right now about who nd what is involved in their new deal.



The 10H will have Robs business's on it . Seneca oil,Berlin Bakery,BriLex,and Nighthawk Holdings.Dont think he will need others money as he owns those business's. As far as the Danny sponsors On the 10H this year only one gave worth noting which was Bonnells. You ask about motors Brian has three new ones,plus a new360 to add to what Hunter already has and three new J&Js. Don't think money will be a problem for Hunter,never has when it comes to his racing team. If Brian or Chad would want anything he will get it for them that I was told. And from past cars I would say they will have the best. Look at his past cars from when Kenny Jacobs drove for him to the present top notch stuff. 



Little guy
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I was wondering if you attended any of these races Dan Sr. mentioned?  I was at Lernerville and it was Jacobs fault.  The other races I cannot speak of so I will not confirm or deny.  I have tracked Danny for the past 4-5 years and I can personally tell you that he takes care of the equipment.  I personally would like him to take more chances, but I do understand him taking what the car will give him.  If I was a car owner and had my choice of Chad or Danny it would be Danny hands down.  I think Chad is a great driver and have nothing against him, but he has not done anything in how long?  Yes, you can make the argument that it is equipment or crew chief or that he was up against the outlaws for how many years, but Danny is on the rise.  He has quite a few years experience, has put together some impressive stats, and will just continue to scale the sprint car ranks.  The guy is only 24-25 years old.  He has so many great years ahead of him and will no doubt be a one of the stars in sprint cars for a long time.



I was at Lernerville and unless Lee had mirrors how could he have seen Danny?  Danny put it between Lee and the wall when there was not enough room.  Danny did the same thing at the Grove as he put the car where it would not fit and went from 10th to 20th.  Not sure about him taking chances.  Yes, he is a good driver but still maturing and yes should win many more races.  I think the thing that will hold Danny back is not what is on the track its drama created by someone close to him. 

We will see about Chad soon enough? funding? Low budget team? .  I know Brian Grove walked away due to drama and did not stick with Danny.   How long before Tom and Bonzi gets their ears full?  Hopefully Danny can stay in the 59. 

Look at Lee Jacobs what a great year he had and by the way "Get Well Soon Lee".  I loved when his dad raced over here for a few years.   



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From a complete outsider, Chad is selling his Nationals roller in the classifieds.  His father in law is Bob Hampshire, engine builder.  He is driving for Scott Euler right now, not a well funded ride.  My guess is that if new engines are being purchased, it's with someone else's money.  While Brian works for Kistler, there's probably not much of an employee discount on a 50K motor.  Probably a lot of rumors right now about who nd what is involved in their new deal.



Sprintfan19  Rob will own everything. As you guys put it  WASHED UP CHAD will drive it and Brian will do his magic on it. By the way Brian can you please get a Buckeye Card for your brother since some think he is past prime. My old lady has a walker if you want to borrow it LOL. Thank you all for posting I think you all just woke up a SLEEPING GIANT. Go CHAD.



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