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Topic: Tod Quiring finalizing details on lucrative new series in the Midwest
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September 29, 2014 at 08:53:06 AM
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Posted By: WIsprinter on September 28 2014 at 04:11:44 PM


I doubt the IRA would be to thrilled to lose their 2 biggest purse races (Lasalle and Richert) to this new series and I just don't see that happening. I could see the Wilmot IRA vs All Stars show perhaps being replaced with a date for this new series but as is the case right now both Wilmot and Lasalle they are on Saturdays running against Knoxville so don't think they would fit into the new series schedule.



I'm saying they could co-sanction these races. The Richert originally started as a IRA/NOSA/Knoxville show, and the Bill Waite could be the same deal between 3 sanctions. Just move the Bill Waite back to a Sunday night like it was in the past before this year. These are all hypotheticals, of course, but I don't think they're too much of a stretch...


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September 29, 2014 at 06:46:15 PM
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Posted By: JonR on September 28 2014 at 08:41:35 PM

While I hope this series is a success, everyone needs to slow thier roll.  The business model for the MOSS is not sustainable.   Tod is going to put in $350,000 of his own money to back the point fund.   They are not going to charge the tracks a sanctioning fee.  Thus, the only money coming to the series is coming from event/series sponsorship.   It is highly debatable that the sponsorship that the new series is going to be able to charge will even pay of the series expenses.  

At a high level, what do we expect from this new series?   Do we expect them to have a race director?   Do we expect them to have a dedicated flagman?  Do we expect them to have a dedicated announcer?  Do we expect them to have a dedicated pit steward?  Do we expecxt them to have a dedicated saftery crew?    Do we expect them to have a dedicated PR person?  Do we expect them to have a dedicated marketing staff?  Do we expect them to have a social medila staff?  Are they going to have a dedicated pit trailer like the ASCS and WOO?  Are they going to have a dedicated souvenier trailer as well?   I am not sure that anyone has the answers, but it is obvious that if you want to put on A 30-35 race schedule that it is going to take some resources to put it togheter including payroll for emplpyees doing the work.  

So before, we start duplicating this effort in numerous area of the country, how many people do we know that are going to spend $500K to $600K of their own money on a sprint car series without any hope of making the money back.    Espcially, when there is the WOO , All Stars, Renegades, PA Posses.  King of Cali, IRA, and all of the other regional series/tracks that are doing well allready.



Finally a voice of reason.  Some of these posts already have weekend racers and crews quitting their jobs, four nation wide regions, drivers that don't have enough backing now suddenly being able to drop everything and travel and tracks booking shows against Knoxville which they made clear they weren't going to do.  I think everybody needs to take a step back and let this thing come together and see what direction it takes.


Stan Meissner

oswald
September 29, 2014 at 07:12:52 PM
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And Ted Johnson was told a national traveling sprint car series paying $5000 to win every race could never work either. Tod obviously has a lot of business experiance and sucsess. He also said he has been thinking about this for some time. He is not looking to line his pockets with cash by running a racing series. Some people on here call him a "wide eyed dreamer" as if he has a bunch of money and zero business sense. Lets just sit back and see what happens. It will be a long winter.



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September 29, 2014 at 08:15:47 PM
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Posted By: oswald on September 29 2014 at 07:12:52 PM

And Ted Johnson was told a national traveling sprint car series paying $5000 to win every race could never work either. Tod obviously has a lot of business experiance and sucsess. He also said he has been thinking about this for some time. He is not looking to line his pockets with cash by running a racing series. Some people on here call him a "wide eyed dreamer" as if he has a bunch of money and zero business sense. Lets just sit back and see what happens. It will be a long winter.



Yep-he's got the money to try it.  Lets all be grateful for that.  If it works, great!  If not, thanks for trying!



joemizzou
September 29, 2014 at 08:27:48 PM
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What will the name of the series be? I have seen Midwest Outlaw Sprint Series (MOSS) on IBRACN. 



StanM
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September 29, 2014 at 09:12:00 PM
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Posted By: oswald on September 29 2014 at 07:12:52 PM

And Ted Johnson was told a national traveling sprint car series paying $5000 to win every race could never work either. Tod obviously has a lot of business experiance and sucsess. He also said he has been thinking about this for some time. He is not looking to line his pockets with cash by running a racing series. Some people on here call him a "wide eyed dreamer" as if he has a bunch of money and zero business sense. Lets just sit back and see what happens. It will be a long winter.



I was the one who said something to the effect that I've seen a lot of "wide eyed dreamers" come and go in this sport.  I don't recall saying that any of them were named Todd but if you want to put that spin on it then so be it.  I'll wait and see what happens before I stick my neck out and proclain this deal as the best thing since sliced bread.  They might not come within five hours of where I live and if that is the case I may never see one of their events.

 

 


Stan Meissner

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