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June 06, 2014 at
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The "stupid looking" can be solved..... 2015 ....no off -setting the side boards. Must be evened up like the 410's. That is what makes them look odd. Even them up and they will look " right" and you would hardly be able to notice they were smaller.
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June 07, 2014 at
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Reply to:
Posted By: gators0849 on June 06 2014 at 09:49:57 AM
I will do some research on the 410/360 deal.
As for the 358s going back, good luck with that. I don't see the rules ever reverting back to the way they were. Remember, that would also be a cost to some teams. The 360 start-up is probably more, but in the long run — from what guys are telling me — it is cheaper.
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In the long run 10 3/4 compression is twice as cheap as 15:1 ASCS/410 compression, and in the short run OEM cast steel heads were twice as cheap as ASCS cnc aluminum racing heads before they opened up the 358 rules and let them port them.
They don't even know how to spell sprint car
much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com
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June 07, 2014 at
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The biggest cost problem for the 358 motors are that the way they are being built when they let go a majority of the time you lose the block and at least one head. That is the cost issue. With the 360's generally both are very repairable hence a lot cheaper repairs/rebuilds.
Money could be saved and help the teams by phasing out lightened blocks. It cost about $1200.00+ for the machine work and is a cause of why you lose the block when it blows up. Do this by mandating another 50lbs. If you run a lightened block. That is a good start to help with costs. As motors fail the teams can replace the blocks without the cost to lighten them and now have a stronger more durable block that will hold up better. By adding 50lbs or giving a 50lbs weight break (1450 lbs) . Keep in mind the block is not rotating weight so pound for pound no advantage to a racer that choses to run a lightened block over a competitor that choses a block in stock form with a weight break. It is a simple tech. That could be done at the scales as a visual quick look with a flash light to verify. it would not cost the tracks money to check it and would not slow down the show at the scales. Would take 15 seconds to verify.
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June 07, 2014 at
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I believe that hung is on the right track...Adjust the rules for the different combos until the conversion to lower buck equipment is complete...
Opinions may vary...
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June 07, 2014 at
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June 08, 2014 at
08:26:58 AM by cubicdollars
360s run steel blocks too. The difference is a budget guy could put a 358 together with a junkyard block and heads if he wanted to and it might run all year because it had no compression. 358s used to be way cheaper than a 360 before they changed their engine rules. That's who used to run Trailway.
They don't even know how to spell sprint car
much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com
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June 07, 2014 at
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People seem to forget what sprint cars were...
They don't even know how to spell sprint car
much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com
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