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Topic: OHIO STATE v michigan part 2?
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sonoranrat
December 03, 2006 at 10:07:49 PM
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Notre Dame fans bring a ton of money to a bowl town and leave with very little. We must remeber the original intent of the Rose Bowl/Parade was to sell real estate in the San Gabriel Valley. The Orange, Cotton, and Sugar Bowls were initiated by co-ops to market their respective products.

Monies generated by weeklong bowl visitors will negate a playoff system.



stubb
December 03, 2006 at 10:09:39 PM
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Bob...i agreed with your post a while back we even had the same scenario figured at work. i also think they could rotate the bowls into the playoff. ie.....the Rose Bowl gets the Ntl. Champ. game, then they must have a 1st round game for a few yrs, then a 2nd round game for 2 yrs & then it's their turn again for the big one. only 7 games & everyone would make out in the $$$$ dept. i wish Ark. would've won....THAT would have made it "very interesting"



Coachbob
December 03, 2006 at 11:50:02 PM
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Of course Notre Dame is in the BCS system only because they have the largest alumni following throughout the country. Not always because they earn it.

I understand that the playoffs won't happen,because I understand that politics and big money America rule. Plus like I said, it makes too damn much sense. There is no reason you can't still have corporate sponsorship, even in a playoff system. As for the lesser bowls, even not being part of the playoffs wouldn't matter, it would be no diffferent than what we have now. It would be nothing more than a reward and excuse for more practice for those teams above .500. They would be no more insignificant than they are now. I also understand the need for the week long visitors, but I wonder how many of those there actually are anymore?

Yes Stubb, I agree they would rotate the bowl games, but only the big four would act as host for semi finals and final. It would mean one of the majors would have a first round game every four years, perhaps the year after hosting the finals. I still like the idea of using a couple of the midwest domes because you would want to give your top four rated teams an opportunity to play round one as close to home as possible instead of making OSU go to Fla, Calif and then Ariz in successive weeks. It would be too cold to host in the shoe I would think.



OutlawDan
December 04, 2006 at 05:58:29 AM
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Notre Dame will continue the longest bowl losing streak in the NCAA. This will be their 9th straight bowl game lost. Can you say over rated?



Joe Kidd
December 04, 2006 at 08:42:02 AM
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If Ohio state was to have played Michigan, then they would at least have a chance to win.



Joe Kidd
December 04, 2006 at 08:43:22 AM
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Wouldn't they?



HighVista
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December 04, 2006 at 09:00:43 AM
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Coach - I knew someone had come up with the same idea, just couldn't remember who and when.

As for the problem of who to invite, you could always incorporate the lesser Bowl games to be Wildcard games. Maybe give the top 4 teams a bye-week, and involve the 5-12 seed teams to play the first Wildcard weekend. With 12 seeds available, you can pretty much count on giving all teams that deserve it a shot.

A couple of years ago ESPN/Sportscenter did a big report on this, and they actually seeded a 32 team tournament using all the Bowl games. It was pretty cool but of course will never happen.

Well, we can only dream.



John Katich
December 04, 2006 at 09:17:20 AM
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This message was edited on December 04, 2006 at 09:19:01 AM by John Katich

While I think Florida is slightly more deserving than Michigan, I think it's time for a playoff while also keeping the bowls. Here's my scenario....

Have an eight team playoff featuring the champions of the six BCS conferences, the highest ranked champion from the smaller conferences and the top ranked "at large" team. In 2006, this would mean Ohio State, Florida, Oklahoma, USC, Louisville, Wake Forest, Boise State and Michigan. Seed the teams (making sure teams from the same conference or rematches from the season aren't repeated until the championship game, if possible). The first two rounds would take up two weekends in mid-December. Play the championship game the first Saturday of 2007. By taking the conference champions, you preserve the importance of the regular season and also might encourage teams to schedule better non-conference foes, knowing that a loss to a good non-conference team can be overcome by winning the league championship.

As for the bowls....teams not in the playoffs can still get a reward for their season and cities can still bring in plenty of tourist dollars. This year, possible matchups could be: LSU vs. Notre Dame in the Sugar, West Virginia vs. Virginia Tech in the Orange, Texas vs. Arkansas in the Fiesta and California vs. Wisconsin in the Rose. Most of these matchups are the same (LSU-Notre Dame) or even more appealing than the announced BCS games, while maintaining some of the traditional ties and interests. Would a playoff diminish the interest in New Year's Day bowl games? Probably not much. Fans still travel to support their teams and it's a tradition to watch bowl games on New Year's Day for even the casual fan. It might hurt some of the lesser bowls but there are too many of them, anyway.

Imagine the bids cities would make to host a championship game, or even the first two rounds. There are plenty of places to play, from domes to warm weather outdoor stadiums all around the country. And the TV money would be tremendous, while still maintaining income for everyone from the bowls.

Anyway, just a thought...



INRacer
December 04, 2006 at 10:32:40 AM
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Posted By: Hawker on December 03 2006 at 04:06:53 PM

Well, the AP had their say...

Associated Press Top 25

No.

School

Record Points Prev
1 Ohio State 12-0 1625 1
2 Florida 12-1 1529 4
3 Michigan 11-1 1526 3
4 LSU 10-2 1365 5
5 Louisville 11-1 1333 6
6 Wisconsin 11-1 1255 7
7 Oklahoma 11-2 1232 8
8 Southern California 10-2 1182 2
9 Boise State 12-0 1097 10
10 Auburn 10-2 1020 11
11 Notre Dame 10-2 939 12
12 Arkansas 10-3 867 8
13 West Virginia 10-2 865 15
14 Virginia Tech 10-2 798 14
15 Wake Forest 11-2 766 16
16 Rutgers 10-2 631 13
17 Tennessee 9-3 576 17
18 Texas 9-3 564 17
19 Brigham Young 10-2 436 20
20 California 9-3 390 21
21 Texas A&M 9-3 379 22
22 Nebraska 9-4 193 19
23 Boston College 9-3 179 25
24 Oregon State 9-4 112 _
25 TCU 10-2 80 _



Does the BCS use inverted starts? If so, everybody would be happy! LOL

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