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Posted By: BK19 on July 29 2008 at 08:25:02 AM
why was every gasket in that motor brand new along with everything else if it had 35 shows on it !john bandemear (spell check ) built it and why do matts parents swear at brad every time he is leading (grudge)and matt cant claim because he needs to run 3 nights first,seems to me they are really poed yet including yourself i have been claimed and laughed everytime, all i ever had was a stock bore 350 with 882 heads and won 4 in a row while being claimed and that was when there was real compitition in that class,everyone thinks nobody knows anything,and by the looks of it you were on my website so now you know why im not out there this year
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just to be honest im not poed about the situation. its just stupid i think that it gets brought up all the time. Its in the past and over with nothing can be done about it. And yes bill i was on your website, i understand why your not on the track this year. There is nothing i can do about matts parents, they are his not mine. But i will tell you honestly that motor was not brand new. I know i helped with the install, when he first started racing the year before. It never came out of the car until the night it got yanked, that is the honest truth. I have even talked with Brad about this before in person. So lets just forget it and go out racing and have some fun and drink some beers.
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Heh you guys,
You guys need to lighten up alittle. its racing and you're way beyound your feelings of true racing. TW Motorsports 34tw
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Posted By: Fleiss299 on July 29 2008 at 10:27:31 PM
just to be honest im not poed about the situation. its just stupid i think that it gets brought up all the time. Its in the past and over with nothing can be done about it. And yes bill i was on your website, i understand why your not on the track this year. There is nothing i can do about matts parents, they are his not mine. But i will tell you honestly that motor was not brand new. I know i helped with the install, when he first started racing the year before. It never came out of the car until the night it got yanked, that is the honest truth. I have even talked with Brad about this before in person. So lets just forget it and go out racing and have some fun and drink some beers.
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sounds good to me beer will be good today on my 46th birthday yee haw
and one other misunder standing is that brad robinson claimed the second motor not the first on that was brad becker i believe so yeah that motor may have had 30 +nights on it but not the one brad r claimed it was brand new his mother was even bragging about it after he was claimed the first night !!!!!!
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Posted By: BK19 on July 29 2008 at 02:27:03 PM
yeah and i have never been bashed into ever HA HA and the guys that do it always come up and say im sorry HA HA jeez i dont ever come up and get in peoples face when i get hit believe me i have spent my share to fix up damage from other drivers had to get the whole car restubbed once because of someones ill handling car and who ever you are ( never mind i figured it out JB)no i dont rearend people on purpose like others out there sorry if i did, if i would have claimed everyone that wrecked me i would have at least 40 motors in the shop but i dont have any cant afford those 383's and 406's in the hobby a class i do think there needs to be more claiming in all classes maybe we could afford to race all the time do i have to drop to b's again or what i have done pretty darn good for the equipment i have had to use i never had any decent motors cant afford it and wouldnt run it anyway dont have all the help like others either,it is a hobby class for petes sake where is it going to end way too much motor in the hobby classes and maybe the black flag needs to be used more often then there would be less wrecking of cars but they know you can get away with rough driving there thats all i have to say on this everyone has there own opinions and it wont change them have a great day i give up
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Wow, what a lot of conversation over SCI, Hobby B, and #33, There are several general statements that are in need of clarification. I don't think I could have generated that much publicity...good, bad or otherwise if I'd tried to.First of all Schauer Construction Inc AND Ken's Excavating were equal sponsors of that night. Ken's Excavating WAS there for the Hobby B presentation, as SCI had asked him to do. SCI had business associates and sponsors of the #33 car as guests who had NEVER attended a car race in their life. The track didnot have a program for us nor did the VIP employee know the lineup for the features, or when we had to be ready for the pace car etc prior to the first feature. When it was apparent that #33 would not be coming to Victory Lane we asked Ken to give out that trophy, we needed to get people not familiar with the event ready and to the pace car on time as not to delay the night's events. It was a matter of prioritizing @ that moment. By the way The Justice Brother's Reps were also not present as they were not told of the schedule of events either. Where's the converation re that? Interestingly enough Brad R.thanked SCI, but never said a word about thanking Ken's Excavating. It was pleasant watching Brad run a clean race,( and if he had been in the pits we would have told him so) which has not always been the case,ei last year on the night SCIand Ken's sponsored rumors returned to us that BradR. and Corey S planned and executed well their plan to take the #33 car out of the race. Shall we talk of Sportmanship now?Speaking of grudges... I wonder if Brad R. is still upset over losing His challenge envoling his red ( I think Firebird ) to a 4 cylinder Silver Daytonna???(over 20 years ago)
If anyone was really watching...Ken's Excavating only made two presentations that night, His choice, Is that poor sportmanship? I doubt it, rather a business man trying to entertain his guests and keep all readyto go to the pace car on time, along with trying to watch the various cars you sponsor.Both Ken's
Excavating and SCI sponsor multiple cars in multiple classes. If you have never been in the VIP booth you donot realize how quickly the evening transpires, especially when the schedule is so turned around from every other Saturday night.
With re to #33's parents being upset you bet we were last year, It was EXTREMELYeveident that Brad R. was trying to take #33 out of racing one way or another, we didnot care that Corey S claimed the engine except that #33 driver had wanted to finish his Hobby B carreer with that one and only engine. We do feel that Corey should have made every effort to run that engine. We heard he was too busy, I'll compare our schedule to yours anyday, The entire month of Sept.,2008, The #33 driver was gone from Sun., 1200 noon to 9:00p.m.Fri. that's where a good pit crew takes over.Also we had people ask us why he raced so hard? He was in a wedding 4+hours away from here
the Sat. following the Extravaganza. he had to outscore his opponents by atleast 40 points for the season title.
As for Brad R.'s claim there was no reason for that except the" frustation "he must have felt over #33's successful season,I think every driver that becomes successful will have learned that it is not just the engine, the car, the driver,the track or the level of competition but the complete package and what you are able to do to be consistent on the track. If anyone is truely offended by #33' parents we truely appologize, We 'd be happy to arrange a time to discuss any issues. Please contact us, not #33. Thank you.
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Posted By: Lawn Enforcer on July 28 2008 at 09:20:41 AM
Yep, seriously they have to let that go. They had too good of an engine for that class when 33 was in it, and he got claimed. That's how it goes.
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Both engines were #33's engines, we are not holding any grudges please review my LONG posting. The caps were from IMCA not SCI or Ken's EXcavating, and only on IMCA trophies.
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Posted By: BK19 on July 30 2008 at 08:22:38 AM
sounds good to me beer will be good today on my 46th birthday yee haw
and one other misunder standing is that brad robinson claimed the second motor not the first on that was brad becker i believe so yeah that motor may have had 30 +nights on it but not the one brad r claimed it was brand new his mother was even bragging about it after he was claimed the first night !!!!!!
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1st. To correct you Corey S claimed the first motor and I think Brad Becker used it this year in part.
2nd. I was not bragging re Matt's motor the night BradR claimed it, I was frustrated that we had lost a motor to someone who states he has an entire shed full of engines and didn't need another one. There's a big difference. Someone who rumors told us that he planned to take Matt out of racing onr way or another.
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Posted By: BK19 on July 27 2008 at 10:23:59 AM
sounds like poor sportsmanship from the crew of 33 shauer construction! not very professional
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Every other year SCIand Ken's Excavating have given trophies on an alternating basis, THis year Ken decided he did not want to go down for the trophies, we were not aware of that until he said we should just go... after the first feature, please see my LONG posting re SCI and Hobby B's trophy. The caps were from IMCA and only on IMCA trophies, Kenny was not aware of a bag of goodies from SCI and didnot see them as they were still in the box on the floor. It had nothing to do with #33 or bad sportsmanship see long posting thankyou. If Brad R. wants a bag of goodies he knows where we live and is welcome to stop and pick it up.
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Posted By: lnm on August 08 2008 at 12:59:41 PM
1st. To correct you Corey S claimed the first motor and I think Brad Becker used it this year in part.
2nd. I was not bragging re Matt's motor the night BradR claimed it, I was frustrated that we had lost a motor to someone who states he has an entire shed full of engines and didn't need another one. There's a big difference. Someone who rumors told us that he planned to take Matt out of racing onr way or another.
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to correct you, brad becker has had nothing to do with that motor. everything he has in his car, he has built. just because his car has been running good this year with the exception of a few wrecks, you think it has to be because of that motor? not even close! get your facts straight... in your posts, all you write about are people who rumor... well thats exactly what this all is, rumors.
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Posted By: becker1747 on August 08 2008 at 02:42:49 PM
to correct you, brad becker has had nothing to do with that motor. everything he has in his car, he has built. just because his car has been running good this year with the exception of a few wrecks, you think it has to be because of that motor? not even close! get your facts straight... in your posts, all you write about are people who rumor... well thats exactly what this all is, rumors.
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What I said was I THINK Brad Becker has used it in part this year, that is what's been said in the pits. If not more power to him, we enjoy watching Brad Becker run his car and yes he's had some unfortunate wrecks this year. When he won last year we were very happy for him and told him so, we even invited him to come to our pit area for burgers and refreshments. We have stated numerous times that motor was nothing special as far as motors go and that is true it was special to us only as the first motor that Matt had used and won his first features with.It would have been nice to finish the class with that motor If Brad ran the motor or not really makes no difference to us.
As far as the rumors.. one would hope that was all they were...but the predictions listed in the rumors were very close to what became reality. Oh well I'm a firm believer in what goes around comes around, if I've done wrong I'll be wronged, and so will they.
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1st. To correct you Corey S claimed the first motor and I think Brad Becker used it this year in part.
2nd. I was not bragging re Matt's motor the night BradR claimed it, I was frustrated that we had lost a motor to someone who states he has an entire shed full of engines and didn't need another one. There's a big difference. Someone who rumors told us that he planned to take Matt out of racing onr way or another.
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" 2nd. I was not bragging re Matt's motor the night BradR claimed it, "
very true cause it was the week before that yes when corey claimed! you mrs schaur were bragging about this brand new motor that was going to be put in the car and kick but again the following week so yeah deny that cause many people heard you and by the way my wife is not brad robinsons wife so dont yell at her,frustrations were not part of the claim it is because of the big $ in the motors and not just that one Yeah i know you will say you only had 300 into it but whatever gee i am a rookie and never have been around racing at all and dont know what i am talking about no one ever lies about what they have for a motor :)every race i have ever won ( 10 of them) have been with a standard bore motor with 882 heads 2 races with .30 over and camel backs, if i had the motors that people ru n in hobbies now i could have won 50 races i lost alot of races cause of lack of power, even if i had the money i would not
put thousand of dollars in a hobby motor maybe you could sponsor my car next year i could
get you more advertising LOL ( on and on and on and on oh nevermind :)and just like the 383's that are being run in the hobby b's this year and not being checked you can hear what cars have them internally balanced 383's in them the hobby b class is supposed to be designed to have basically stock motors in them but when they are never checked i dont blame people for putting illegal motors "NO NOT YOU GUYS" but 2 other people running the class now yeah i remember when racing was fun :) now you need a corperate sponsor just to run a hobby class oh yeah if anyone has sci build a house that has read this post make sure to tell them where you saw the advertisement so i can get my commission check ROTFLMAO :)-
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" 2nd. I was not bragging re Matt's motor the night BradR claimed it, "
very true cause it was the week before that yes when corey claimed! you mrs schaur were bragging about this brand new motor that was going to be put in the car and kick but again the following week so yeah deny that cause many people heard you and by the way my wife is not brad robinsons wife so dont yell at her,frustrations were not part of the claim it is because of the big $ in the motors and not just that one Yeah i know you will say you only had 300 into it but whatever gee i am a rookie and never have been around racing at all and dont know what i am talking about no one ever lies about what they have for a motor every race i have ever won ( 10 of them) have been with a standard bore motor with 882 heads 2 races with .30 over and camel backs, if i had the motors that people ru n in hobbies now i could have won 50 races i lost alot of races cause of lack of power, even if i had the money i would not
put thousand of dollars in a hobby motor maybe you could sponsor my car next year i could
get you more advertising LOL ( on and on and on and on oh nevermind and just like the 383's that are being run in the hobby b's this year and not being checked you can hear what cars have them internally balanced 383's in them the hobby b class is supposed to be designed to have basically stock motors in them but when they are never checked i dont blame people for putting illegal motors "NO NOT YOU GUYS" but 2 other people running the class now yeah i remember when racing was fun now you need a corperate sponsor just to run a hobby class oh yeah if anyone has sci build a house that has read this post make sure to tell them where you saw the advertisement so i can get my commission check ROTFLMAO -
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Hey Keech, All of Matt's motors were legal, I don't think he used the motor We were talking about that night anyway What would you have wanted us to say..? As we have stated it is not just the motor that wins classes, it is the entire package. Matt ran 1 1/2 seasons before he won a feature, and had the same motor the entire time He has several good sponsors who help his racing program, not just SCI. we are relatively a small corp of 3-4 workers. I don't understand why illegal motors are not disqualified when the cars are teched out.
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Hey Keech, All of Matt's motors were legal, I don't think he used the motor We were talking about that night anyway What would you have wanted us to say..? As we have stated it is not just the motor that wins classes, it is the entire package. Matt ran 1 1/2 seasons before he won a feature, and had the same motor the entire time He has several good sponsors who help his racing program, not just SCI. we are relatively a small corp of 3-4 workers. I don't understand why illegal motors are not disqualified when the cars are teched out.
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Sorry, I'm having trouble with my computer didnot mean to post a part of my answer. We honestly do not know who you or your wife is, but if ANYONE stands up and cheers when someone collides with one of the racers we sponsor they may get an earfull. We donot believe racing is about wrecking stuff each week, we have goals to achieve consistency on the track by being able to run each heat and feature, I think you're correct when you talk of the need for more black flags used. We feel if people feel the need to wreck stuff they should enter the demos.
SCI does have a referral program let us know and we'll send you the appropriate paper work for your referral fee. About that sponsorship... We'd have to meet and discuss details.
As for the cost of Matt's stuff... He pays for it I have only general ideas. I've found this dialog to enlightening and somewhat enjoyable, but cannot devote anymore time to it so good luck with you're future racing next year, and if you win on the night we sponsor I'll try to be sure to give you two goodie bags. Hope to be introduced to you and yours someday.
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Hey Keech, All of Matt's motors were legal, I don't think he used the motor We were talking about that night anyway What would you have wanted us to say..? As we have stated it is not just the motor that wins classes, it is the entire package. Matt ran 1 1/2 seasons before he won a feature, and had the same motor the entire time He has several good sponsors who help his racing program, not just SCI. we are relatively a small corp of 3-4 workers. I don't understand why illegal motors are not disqualified when the cars are teched out. "
I NEVER SAID MATTS MOTOR WERE ILLEGAL IF YOU WOULD READ MY POST I SAID MOTORS THAT ARE BEING RUN IN THAT CLASS NOW ,and i agree i dont like it when people cheer when people crash or get claimed either i have had people to that in front of m wife and even my kids and they were only like 5 and 6 years old at the time and yeah i sit right behind harry ewert if you want to say hello so yeah enough on this posts i know i made a few peopel smile anyway LOL
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I noticed that this thread has been getting a lot of posts. Somebody let me know if it gets out of hand and I have to delete anything. I don't have time to read every post about the Arlington Hobby cars and no offense to anyone but they're not at the top of my list of things I want to spend my time doing. If you guys post about the USA Nationals, the Richert Memoral, Friday night of the Jackson Nationals, the Princeton National, the Legendary 100, the Badger State Nationals, the IRA at Rice Lake or the Brainerd IRA race I might be interested in that.
I swear if they'd get rid of those d*mn claim rules you'd be able to feel the love all the way up here in Forest Lake. :)
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Wow this sure brought on alot of conversation, I really didn't think this would get so out of hand, I just asked one simple question and it totally got blown way out of hand! I haven't really read all the posts because most of them didn't even pertain to what I was asking. I think it is time we just put and end to this and move on. If everyone wants to know the truth Brad and Matt have talked to each other about this and they both agreed that this got way out of hand and want everyone to just let it go!
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No problem. The thread appeared to be more civilized than some of them we've dealt with. I'm glad to hear that everything worked out for the best.
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