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Topic: My theory on Larsons high tailpipe
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beezr2002
August 16, 2024 at 01:10:53 PM
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With winged cars there is an areodynamic theory that has to do with hot air molecules versus cold air molecules and how they affect wing performance. Something like the dense cold air molecules on the top of the wing surface over power the less dense hot air molecules under the wing surface creating more downforce. It's a theory but I don't know if it is part of Larson's winning equation. I'm sure no team today would run a distractive piece on their car to keep other peoples mind occupied while trying something new. That last sentence was sarcasm for those who ........well you know.



kossuth
August 16, 2024 at 06:42:19 PM
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Posted By: linbob on August 12 2024 at 05:50:02 PM

Alot of heat goes out a tailpipe.  This really heats up shocks.  Teams spend alot of time on shock dynos.  Heat changes the readings alot.  I think the exhaust outlet being high is to keep shocks cooler.  You also do not want your tires to get hotter than needed.  This keeps tires cooler.  My guess is you will see more cars try this.  



There is an old saying that I'm basically paraphrasing here.

If you don't want your competition to see what your really doing, put something outlandish out there that means nothing For them to chase. That way they don't look at the rest of the car. 



jdfaster
August 19, 2024 at 03:01:10 PM
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Rico ran the high tail pipes this weekend at Tulare and Handford.

Asked a crewman for Rico, what the pepes do.  He said it keeps the shock 50 degrees cooler when they come off the track.  I asked if he thought it created more down force, he said he had no idea.  How hot do shocks get ?

Interesting Rico's and Silva 57 were pitted next to each other at Handford, a lot of brain power between those teams and I think Rod Tiner was helping.

 

Curious, are there any downsides to the pipes, more fumes in the cockpit?   WOO, HL and USAC should decide quickly if they want to have these exhaust/pipes.  Over night this would obsolete for all other competitive teams their current pipes, but I guess cutting and welding is no big deal.

 



RodinCanada
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August 19, 2024 at 07:06:31 PM
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This idea of upward exhaust was discussed about 18 months ago briefly if i remember correctly. Same thig was said then, cooler shocks and tires. I was surprised then that it didnt catch kn if there was a large advantage.


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Johnny Utah
August 19, 2024 at 08:29:48 PM
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Lucas Wolfe's pipes at the Grove a few years back were cool. I believe he had to take them off after hot laps because they were a "safety issue".



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