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I totally understand your point as to where the winner will come from but that's how they try to split the nights putting top guys from each group on both nights andwhen I looked at the different pools it looked like there was thought in how they did it subjectively for each.  One night is always gonna be tougher it's just the nature of the beast.  Looking forward to seeing it play out for sure 

I like your analysis but I'm not sure what your (advantage) notation means.

Just who I felt was the better pool of each group of each night is all.  Of course all debatable, just how I looked at the split being pretty even overall for the two nights, that's all.  I don't have a car there so I can look at it as a fan and fans are opinionated but I'm not arrogant enough to think my opinions are fact. �

It's tradition every year to argue Thursday is better and this year it probably is. But the winner has come from Wednesday more often than not. Of course it helps Schatz's night is always Wednesday. 

Just think if he had Warner on the car, he'd have lapped the field!

Well then it's a good thing Rico has Ricky Warner. 

Still good enough for third better than seventh.

Awww darn tires lol.

Wouldn't have mattered----Kyle in his prime is better than Donny past his prime.  Unless Kyle had a tire or mechanical failure, Donny wasn't beating Kyle last night even if God himself had setup the car.   

On another note, I agree 100% with your earlier statement-----Knoxville Nationals are the best format in all of sprint car racing!!  Period!

Agreed, Knoxville when you can run the top like that is a young man's game. The only car that had a shot at Larson was Gravel and he started too far back. 

Cope harder, the results are what they are he finished 3rd  quit whining.

I'll take a guy named Kinser, goes by first name of Karl.  Keep in mind, Ricky was his protege for a period of time.   He is still the winnest person of the Knoxville Nationals coming in with 14 wins. 

In Strawser's defense, he did say best in the business right now...................

We can disagree, that's fine.  I would rather take Kyle Larson, in his prime, in a car setup at 80% over Donny at this point in his career with a car setup by Ricky Warner.  On the flip side, before Kyle was REALLY, REALLY good at the Nats, I would take Donny in his prime, in a car setup at 80% over Kyle driving a car setup by Ricky Warner.  

The only sticking point you and I have is the importance of the driver.  It's pretty clear Kyle can overcome an ill-handling race car and make it do things it shouldn't do.  When Kyle loses a race, he almost always says there are things I could have done differently.  When other drivers lose a race, they say "WE just couldn't get the car to run right on the bottom."   Paul Silva is obviously no dummy.  But, no one in the pits-----NO ONE----can overcome an ill-handling race car like Kyle.  If Paul gives Larson a great car, Donny isn't catching him at this point in his career no matter who's wrenching.  If Paul gives Kyle a GOOD car, I'll still take Kyle and probably win 2 out of 3 times.  

I am not a fan of Donny's, but I enjoyed seeing his 11th win last year, especially considering what he was going through on a personal level, and the crowd respected it too.  That said, if Larson doesn't blow a tire, Donny doesn't win last year.  On the same note, if Rico doesn't blow a tire this year...............who knows?  I would still take Kyle in that battle, but it would have been fun to watch.  

Doesn't matter how he looked you still have to finish and take advantage of the situation who cares he finished on the podium I guess you want an asterisk everytime something happens that hurts your feelings.

He looked bad, or he was following the 2 best racers in their prime?  I think Schatz looked great.  He just isn't the same young man that he was during his prime.  Gravel and Larson are at the point in their racing careers that Donny was 10-15 years ago----you know, back when everyone was thinking Steve was declining because he wasn't with Karl?  But in reality, he was getting beat by new talent, in the prime of their careers?  

Sound familiar.  Or are you not going to let go of the Ricky Warner effect?  I don't believe for one second that the reason Larson beat Schatz was because of the setup of the car.  Not for one second.  

"Or are you not going to let go of the Ricky Warner effect?"

Look at who you are talking to. You knew the answer to your own question before you even typed it. But, I'm sure you wont be able to "handle the truth" or "If Ricky woulda done X. Y, or Z, Schatz coulda done A, B, or C and that's a FACT!"