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revjimk
June 29, 2021 at 11:15:23 AM
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Posted By: crk410 on June 29 2021 at 12:16:32 AM

Well said.  Frankly sick of Kyle Larson, Bell and company coming to cherry pick all the big money races from the locals, very bad for the sport in my opinion.  It's kind of like major league baseball players coming back to play little league.  Sure it's fun for the big leaguer, but hardly an even playing field.  Weekly 410 racers were having a hard enough time keeping a car on the track before the Nascar crowd started coming in to compete in all the local racing crown jewels.  Not taking anything away from Larson, the guy is an amazing talent... best I've seen.  Just trying to look at the big picture and long term well being of the sport. 



Well it seems that most of the fans, myself included, love to see Larson race

Same with Outlaw shows

As others have said, puts more butts in the seats. Attendance at regular WG weekly races isn't that great



egras
June 29, 2021 at 11:40:39 AM
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Posted By: wolfie2985 on June 29 2021 at 07:17:26 AM

Good to know I have at least one friend on here. 

An amazing talent ....a gasser....neat to watch him blast around the outside but struggle with him taking probably close to $200K in the last year from guys that really need it.



I would assume then by your comments that you, and anyone else opposed to Larson running in PA, are not a fan of capitalism, correct?  



Murphy
June 29, 2021 at 12:33:25 PM
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Posted By: longtimefan on June 29 2021 at 10:54:20 AM

You do make some valid points, but have you been to the dirt tracks to see who those new eyes belong to? Sure does make you shake your head sometimes and is one reason I don't care if I go to the Wednesday race. 



I'll probably draw some ire here, but you don't want to be around 'those people'? Are those the same ones you keep yelling at to get off your lawn? (Truth in advertising: we're probably close in age.)



longtimefan
June 29, 2021 at 01:14:07 PM
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Posted By: Murphy on June 29 2021 at 12:33:25 PM

I'll probably draw some ire here, but you don't want to be around 'those people'? Are those the same ones you keep yelling at to get off your lawn? (Truth in advertising: we're probably close in age.)



Way wrong. 



hiroshimacarp
June 29, 2021 at 02:44:59 PM
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Posted By: Curious12 on June 29 2021 at 09:07:07 AM

I believe more fans last night because Larson and Bell were coming mostly Nascar as I saw more 5 shirts than 57. There were good crowds prior to them showing as well.

Track was just OK. Not a great race except for Kendall and Larson but OK at best. 

 

I do appreciate the track on a weeknight keeping the show moving, and one division. I am all for that during the week and big shows. When you have kids that want to meet drivers early nights sure help. 

Passing on tonight though alittle steep and again wish only one division. Also don't want to bring half the track back to my car. Still can't figure out how to make the track less dirt and dust. Last year could not even see the cars into turn 1 and two for the dirt.  Wish all the drivers good luck tonight. Been a good speedweek so far. If any promoters read these. Keep the show moving as kids are the future and can't always hang with the adults. Specials shows do not need extra divisions. Kudos to Lincoln last night!

 

 

 

 

 



totally agree about the 410 only show.  my kids were awake for the feature and to meet the drivers for a change.  having larson/bell there drew everybody away from the pa guys so we walked right up to most of them.  already knew chad trout is a class act but he was still there after a bad night.

gettysburg clash is my favorite outlaw event and the 410 only show might be my favorite night of speedweek.  lincoln makes the most out of not always getting the weekend dates.

as far as larson/bell...i definitely see both sides.  it's a treat to have them there...but they don't need the purse money and especially the souvenir sales.  people mob the larson trailer.  hopefully that's not money that could have gone to another driver.  i also hope track promoters funnel the money down somehow to weekly shows or other events that might end up having bigger purses.

by the way...t-shirt game was really strong last night.  tj stutts has a beautiful one with the susquehanna river on it (unfortunately they were running out of teal).  ryan smith put out his new stuff and chad trout has a tie dye version of his shirt for the season.  rico has a rainbow tie dye speedweek shirt and he's always good about having kids sizes.  



wolfie2985
June 29, 2021 at 02:53:43 PM
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Explain to me again how what was intended as friendly discussion results in personal insults.

Lets just put up a Tyler Walker sticky thread and call it good.

 

 



egras
June 29, 2021 at 04:37:32 PM
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Posted By: wolfie2985 on June 29 2021 at 02:53:43 PM

Explain to me again how what was intended as friendly discussion results in personal insults.

Lets just put up a Tyler Walker sticky thread and call it good.

 

 



Actually, I think the discussion started by a post about terrible track conditions and complaining about how horrible the race was going to be.....................  ;)



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June 29, 2021 at 04:38:44 PM
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This message was edited on June 29, 2021 at 04:41:21 PM by RodinCanada

Id like to see Larson donate his portion back to a local charity, named ahead of time by online fan voting.

That would make him more of a hero and possibly sell him enough tshirts  to cover his donation if he finished 3rd or back.

The roll back on that move might not be profitable in the end but it sure would change the landscape.


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larsonfan
June 29, 2021 at 05:08:00 PM
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Posted By: RodinCanada on June 29 2021 at 04:38:44 PM

Id like to see Larson donate his portion back to a local charity, named ahead of time by online fan voting.

That would make him more of a hero and possibly sell him enough tshirts  to cover his donation if he finished 3rd or back.

The roll back on that move might not be profitable in the end but it sure would change the landscape.



I hope this is sarcasm. If not, what?

Paul Silva should just spend all the money it takes to field a sprint car team an donate all winnings to charity? That's crazy. It's not Larson's car and $, just like the 39 is not Bell's car.

With that line of thinking, because Tony Stewart has made good business decisions, he and Schatz should donate their winnings to charity. After all, Donny has his own plane - how much money does he need? Kahne and Sweet, same. Dewease/Kreitz have won a ton of races and $, so same for them.

Larson/Silva and Bell/Swindell have every right to enter any race they want as long as they comply with the rules.

Bottom Line: getting tired of seeing them win and taking the loot? Step up your game and beat them on the track. Example: Lucas Wolfe setting fast time last night and then stepping on it in his heat by mising the setup by a mile and blowing his chance at a front row starting spot in the feature was not any "cherry pickers" fault.



egras
June 29, 2021 at 05:38:49 PM
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Posted By: larsonfan on June 29 2021 at 05:08:00 PM

I hope this is sarcasm. If not, what?

Paul Silva should just spend all the money it takes to field a sprint car team an donate all winnings to charity? That's crazy. It's not Larson's car and $, just like the 39 is not Bell's car.

With that line of thinking, because Tony Stewart has made good business decisions, he and Schatz should donate their winnings to charity. After all, Donny has his own plane - how much money does he need? Kahne and Sweet, same. Dewease/Kreitz have won a ton of races and $, so same for them.

Larson/Silva and Bell/Swindell have every right to enter any race they want as long as they comply with the rules.

Bottom Line: getting tired of seeing them win and taking the loot? Step up your game and beat them on the track. Example: Lucas Wolfe setting fast time last night and then stepping on it in his heat by mising the setup by a mile and blowing his chance at a front row starting spot in the feature was not any "cherry pickers" fault.



Thinking the same



armyduke
June 29, 2021 at 05:43:16 PM
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racers just wanna race

 



RodinCanada
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June 29, 2021 at 05:56:08 PM
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Posted By: larsonfan on June 29 2021 at 05:08:00 PM

I hope this is sarcasm. If not, what?

Paul Silva should just spend all the money it takes to field a sprint car team an donate all winnings to charity? That's crazy. It's not Larson's car and $, just like the 39 is not Bell's car.

With that line of thinking, because Tony Stewart has made good business decisions, he and Schatz should donate their winnings to charity. After all, Donny has his own plane - how much money does he need? Kahne and Sweet, same. Dewease/Kreitz have won a ton of races and $, so same for them.

Larson/Silva and Bell/Swindell have every right to enter any race they want as long as they comply with the rules.

Bottom Line: getting tired of seeing them win and taking the loot? Step up your game and beat them on the track. Example: Lucas Wolfe setting fast time last night and then stepping on it in his heat by mising the setup by a mile and blowing his chance at a front row starting spot in the feature was not any "cherry pickers" fault.



Not being sarcastic. I did mention his share meaning his share, not Silvas share. 

I was just suggesting an idea which I know wont be done but I am sure if he did, he may come out pretty close to equal at the bank but light years ahead everywhere else. 

The others you mention are mostly committed to a sanction and racing is their job. Tony has a foundation, does he not, so he has already turned that corner which only helps his PR.

 

I dont expect anyone to race for free and I dont really care if money leaves the race host state. Pay your entry fee wherever you like.


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turn4guy
June 29, 2021 at 06:38:11 PM
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Posted By: crk410 on June 29 2021 at 12:16:32 AM

Well said.  Frankly sick of Kyle Larson, Bell and company coming to cherry pick all the big money races from the locals, very bad for the sport in my opinion.  It's kind of like major league baseball players coming back to play little league.  Sure it's fun for the big leaguer, but hardly an even playing field.  Weekly 410 racers were having a hard enough time keeping a car on the track before the Nascar crowd started coming in to compete in all the local racing crown jewels.  Not taking anything away from Larson, the guy is an amazing talent... best I've seen.  Just trying to look at the big picture and long term well being of the sport. 



Don't smoke crack



brewer1s
June 29, 2021 at 08:39:16 PM
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I started this post on track conditions and it turned into why Larsen and Bell are racing and cherry picking so I will add my two sense and say racers race for a living so they should be able to race whatever they choose to race in be it asphalt or dirt   



MandGRacing96
June 30, 2021 at 07:19:53 AM
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Posted By: brewer1s on June 29 2021 at 08:39:16 PM

I started this post on track conditions and it turned into why Larsen and Bell are racing and cherry picking so I will add my two sense and say racers race for a living so they should be able to race whatever they choose to race in be it asphalt or dirt   



The Nascrap teams are wishing Larson would go dirt racing full time.



longtimefan
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He will be racing near you tonight if it doesn't rain. Be there!



frebyrd
June 30, 2021 at 08:05:28 AM
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Posted By: MoOpenwheel on June 29 2021 at 10:33:05 AM

So you don't think more eyes on the sport is good for it? You don't think sponsors will be willing to spend more if they know more eyes are watching? You don't think increased attendance at tracks and viewers online help track promoters pay more, or at least maintain and stay in business? I see it the opposite. The more revenue and funding that becomes available the more tracks can pay and the more racers can get from sponsors. I don't see how that's a bad thing for the long term well being of the sport.  



I think its awsome a nascar guy loves DIRT racing so much that he wins a MILLION bucks one day and shows up in Ohio the next day in a sprint for 6k to win. Ps For those that says 69k only cherry picks, HAHa. Most of the time he races when Woo in town, all stars or speedwk when alot of good drivers here. So those drivers cheeries? HAHA



Centralpa410
June 30, 2021 at 08:48:00 AM
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Posted By: brewer1s on June 29 2021 at 08:39:16 PM

I started this post on track conditions and it turned into why Larsen and Bell are racing and cherry picking so I will add my two sense and say racers race for a living so they should be able to race whatever they choose to race in be it asphalt or dirt   



And as usual, ying and yang, dumb and dumber, pathetic and useless also had to get in his daily comment about Port Royal as well. Man it must suck do be that guy.



dsc1600
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It would be kind of odd if you didn't agree with Strawser, since you're the same person. 



pasprintfan
June 30, 2021 at 11:06:00 AM
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To the comment about the 69k cherry picking. You have to remember Davey Brown is no spring chicken. The rest of that team are not young guys either . Week in and week out is a grind for thse guys. They also are not the financed team out there. I'm sure if you guys wanna throw a bunch of money and a ton of parts at them for the season they will gladly take it.. You can also put in the hours so they can just show up on race night and run. That team started knowing they were not gonna run every week so just sit back and enjoy it while you can.



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