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Topic: Justin Grant quote on midget danger and sprint car danger
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El Wingador
December 10, 2020 at 07:19:56 AM
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Posted By: EasyE on December 09 2020 at 06:42:35 PM

Was on the cover of National Speed Sport News with my worst crash. But thanks for asking



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Murphy
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Posted By: EasyE on December 09 2020 at 06:42:35 PM

Was on the cover of National Speed Sport News with my worst crash. But thanks for asking



In a sprint?  A midget? A B-mod? What?



ColtanW
December 10, 2020 at 11:39:31 AM
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Larson stated the same thing on the Rip The Fence podcast earlier this year. When asked about finding a non-wing sprint car ride for the 4 Crown, he shied away from the idea and stated that it's hard to get comfortable in one of those cars as it always feels like the left rear wheel is trying to bike up and flip you over. 


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tenter
December 10, 2020 at 12:11:59 PM
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Posted By: EasyE on December 09 2020 at 06:42:35 PM

Was on the cover of National Speed Sport News with my worst crash. But thanks for asking



Which had the hardest hit? Sprint with wing because of speed or midget because of no wing to cushion blow , or silver crown because of weight?

 



Nick14
December 10, 2020 at 03:11:35 PM
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Posted By: larsonfan on December 08 2020 at 09:03:03 PM

After his flip at the 4 Crown in the Hoffman 69, and subsequent hit to the cage by another car, that is understandable.



Happened almost directly in front of me that night. Was watching in the infield that night and happened to be in 1 & 2 when it happened. Could see it happening almost in slow motion and I don't think I have ever had a more sickening feeling throughout my body than when I saw the second car hit him in the cage. Was very relieved when I saw him get out of the car.

Getting back to the quote, I'm sure all the drivers have their own ratings as to how much more dangerous one form is over the other. Probably a good arguement for each class being dangerous and most drivers admit they all have some sort of screw loose to be doing this. I appreciate all of them willing to do it and always hope for a race with low attrition for the safety of them.



longtimefan
December 10, 2020 at 05:07:08 PM
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Heard a pretty popular say one time that you don't have to crazy to drive sprint car but it helps.



beezr2002
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Posted By: tenter on December 10 2020 at 12:11:59 PM

Which had the hardest hit? Sprint with wing because of speed or midget because of no wing to cushion blow , or silver crown because of weight?

 



What was your hardest hit...the one where you fell into a fire and got crispy arm.. I thought you only drank during the weekends.. lol



EasyE
December 10, 2020 at 05:48:04 PM
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Posted By: Murphy on December 10 2020 at 10:23:10 AM

In a sprint?  A midget? A B-mod? What?



Murphy you must be lawyer....and just like that a discrepancy is found in the wording in the fact that I did not specify in my answer that yes or no it was or was not a sprint car or midget. It was a ump modified, an A- mod. I absolutely understand that even though I was doing about 110 mph on a big track and covered about 250 feet with a vicious flip I have no business voicing my opinion in this matter. Please disregard any comment i have made and i will exit this post and not return. Lmao



EasyE
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Posted By: tenter on December 09 2020 at 01:29:48 PM

Have you crashed either?

 



tenter now remember if there is a post on here about a racetrack, a race, a driver etc, you must have been to that track, been to that race, or know the driver personally to have any sort of opinion I'll be asking because I have to know so be ready



Murphy
December 10, 2020 at 09:05:28 PM
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Posted By: EasyE on December 10 2020 at 05:48:04 PM

Murphy you must be lawyer....and just like that a discrepancy is found in the wording in the fact that I did not specify in my answer that yes or no it was or was not a sprint car or midget. It was a ump modified, an A- mod. I absolutely understand that even though I was doing about 110 mph on a big track and covered about 250 feet with a vicious flip I have no business voicing my opinion in this matter. Please disregard any comment i have made and i will exit this post and not return. Lmao



    Thanks. I live on the upper plains. A modified around here is low-profile, kinda like a late model without front fenders. I thought UMP modifieds were more upright, higher profile cars. 



Shortie12
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Posted By: Murphy on December 10 2020 at 09:05:28 PM

    Thanks. I live on the upper plains. A modified around here is low-profile, kinda like a late model without front fenders. I thought UMP modifieds were more upright, higher profile cars. 



The night Dawley and Larson were fataly injured at Knoxville was basically the end of non wing 410 racing there. There have been some wing deaths since but the wings do cushion the impact .



BMarks1
December 14, 2020 at 01:32:26 AM
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Actually, I don't even like thinking of it.  I think When Gary Scott lost his life on the front stretch it was the end.  His arm restraints failed and it was a terrible thing to see.  He was Scott Bonar's favorite driver and unfortunately Scott was with me when it happened.



tenter
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Posted By: beezr2002 on December 10 2020 at 05:23:46 PM

What was your hardest hit...the one where you fell into a fire and got crispy arm.. I thought you only drank during the weekends.. lol



I thought it was a legit question?



Dryslick Willie
December 14, 2020 at 03:13:56 PM
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Posted By: BMarks1 on December 14 2020 at 01:32:26 AM

Actually, I don't even like thinking of it.  I think When Gary Scott lost his life on the front stretch it was the end.  His arm restraints failed and it was a terrible thing to see.  He was Scott Bonar's favorite driver and unfortunately Scott was with me when it happened.



I believe this is right.   The Larson/Dawley accident happened in 1979 I think?   Gary Scott in 1981?    After that Knoxville made wings mandatory.   



Paintboss
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Ask Mack McClellen or Danny Drinan if Midgets can be scary!!



linbob
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Posted By: Paintboss on December 15 2020 at 10:51:11 AM

Ask Mack McClellen or Danny Drinan if Midgets can be scary!!



Dan Drinan flipped the crap out of his car on the Springfield  one mile track.  His Drinan midget frame held up and a picture of bare frame after crash showed no evidence of such a hard crash.  He told me crash did not scare him because he has no memory at all of crash.



alum.427
December 27, 2020 at 03:53:59 PM
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The harder you drive it in the car takes a set from all the air over top and hitting the side panel. You can feel that set in your seat and you just smash the pedal thru the corner.  You don't get that feeling with a wingless car, a wingless car doesn't take a set and because you set a wingless car up so much different if you bump or hit a rut or cushion wrong, well you've witnessed the rest of that story. It's the seat of the pants feel you just don't get without the wing. My feelings, midgets don't belong on 1/2 mile tracks. I drove a wingless car one time. Hot lapped it, that SOB was like a dog in a cage just waiting to hurt me. Thankfully we got rained out. I never accepted a sprint car wingless right after that. Are wing cars safer ? In most roll overs yes, but if your in a nasty one that wing is usually gone after the first hit anyhow. So does it really matter ? I don't think so. 



madsen
December 27, 2020 at 11:21:46 PM
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In the Sprint Car and Midget article, Justin Grant did not say he was talking about winged sprint cars or midgets or Silver Crown cars.  There was a large picture of him in a silver crown car and another smaller picture of him in a winged sprint car.  He does drive non-winged sprint cars most of the time.  


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SpcJay
December 28, 2020 at 11:27:30 AM
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Well Donny Schatz said the exact opposite a few years back with us on Beerhill Gang TV. When we asked him about running the chili bowl, he said he did it, but felt no need to do it again as being in a midget scared the crap out of him. He didn;t feel safe in them and while the driver in him wanted to do it, he just was good crossing the experience off his bucket list and moving on from it



beezr2002
December 28, 2020 at 12:52:42 PM
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Posted By: SpcJay on December 28 2020 at 11:27:30 AM

Well Donny Schatz said the exact opposite a few years back with us on Beerhill Gang TV. When we asked him about running the chili bowl, he said he did it, but felt no need to do it again as being in a midget scared the crap out of him. He didn;t feel safe in them and while the driver in him wanted to do it, he just was good crossing the experience off his bucket list and moving on from it



Neat scoop. It does make a person wonder which would be safer, a winged sprinter at 120+ mph or a midget at 75 mph? Jack Hewitt said something to the effect of if wings make it faster how can it be safer.



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