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steelcityguy
June 26, 2020 at 04:03:26 PM
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Been to every race since Port reopened and I've seen a total of five masks during those four races. When I'm at my home in Juniata County (where Port Royal is) I see very few masks being worn.  When I'm at my home in the Philly suburbs it's 50/50 with people outside and almost 100% with people in businesses.



SprintFan16
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June 26, 2020 at 05:54:14 PM
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It's killed 125K people in a few months in the US alone. If that pace speeds up, it could easily be up there with heart disease and cancer as leading causes of death in the US.

Not to mention the indirect consequences everywhere else. Texas Medical Center in Houston is the largest medical complex in the world and yesterday hit 100% capacity in its ICU, with a quarter of that being COVID patients. They have implemented surge tactics to add additional beds, but that unfortunately is going to consume additional resources and medical personnel from other areas, which will most definitely lead to a drop in quality of care in those areas.

Honestly, at this point given your cavalier attitude, I personally am eager to watch you squeal and moan when things dramatically slow down because people like you fail to follow some simple goddamn guidelines to protect the country as a whole. Patriot? Nah. You're a dipshit.

 



SprintFan16
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June 26, 2020 at 05:56:52 PM
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Wait - is Strawser just the most natural troll ever? Starting to believe it based on the more he posts. 



revjimk
June 26, 2020 at 11:56:45 PM
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How many times do we have to explain this to you?

The masks are to protect OTHER PEOPLE

If you have the disease & come in contact with a vulnerable person, you could kill them

Big brave freedom fighter aren't you?



alum.427
June 27, 2020 at 06:37:13 AM
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WOW, and they wonder why these assholes millenials are the way they are. DO ANY OF YOU NO WHAT THE WORD RESPECT

MEANS ?  It's  your choice, if you care to wear a mask then do so, go sit by others which are doing the same. If you choose not to it's your right to have your opinion. Bash, Bash, Bash.  Look around folks, people are out there destroying American history right in front of your eyes



410mudslinger
June 27, 2020 at 07:36:14 AM
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WOW, and they wonder why these assholes millenials are the way they are. DO ANY OF YOU NO WHAT THE WORD RESPECT

MEANS ?  It's  your choice, if you care to wear a mask then do so, go sit by others which are doing the same. If you choose not to it's your right to have your opinion. Bash, Bash, Bash.  Look around folks, people are out there destroying American history right in front of your eyes



AMEN!

Please stop all this bickering and get back to talk about racing. 
I love sprint car racing because it helps me forget about all the other B.S. going on around me.

We all have opinions about the stuff going on now please keep them to yourself and lets get back to racing.



steelcityguy
June 27, 2020 at 08:10:54 AM
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Posted By: alum.427 on June 27 2020 at 06:37:13 AM

WOW, and they wonder why these assholes millenials are the way they are. DO ANY OF YOU NO WHAT THE WORD RESPECT

MEANS ?  It's  your choice, if you care to wear a mask then do so, go sit by others which are doing the same. If you choose not to it's your right to have your opinion. Bash, Bash, Bash.  Look around folks, people are out there destroying American history right in front of your eyes



Smartest post I've seen on here in a long time.



Hooper31
June 27, 2020 at 08:31:22 AM
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Posted By: revjimk on June 25 2020 at 08:40:56 PM

Now could I get some info from somebody without an ax to grind?

I guess I could research it myself, thought someone from Pa. might know...



LInk to the Johns-Hopkins data. 
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

 

There's only one graph that I look at each day on that linked page. It's the Daily Deaths. In my mind it's the only objective data we have to go on. When you hear about "increases" in cases that's relative to the number being tested. Most news outlets aren't sharing that number. If we were talking about a percent of randomly selected people being tested we might have some data worth discussion, but for now we're dealing with several forms of statistical bias. Who is volunteering to be tested? And what motivation exists for them that may not have a couple of months ago? Again, bias data. However, the death count isn't so subjective. You can make arguments about who is or isn't being counted as an official Covid death, but unless you subscribe to a nationwide conspiracy amongst doctors it's the best we have. 

Conclusion: The deaths are steadily dropping. Will we see an increase in death count in a week? If so, it would seem there was a legitimate increase in the number of true cases (whether tested or not). We'll see. This is the discussion I would be having each day if I were the president. I think the president has tried to take the conversation in this direction, but he's done a poor job if it. 

 

EDIT: Final note. The sinusoidal nature of that deaths graph is due to some states not reporting deaths over the weekends. They get lumped into Tuesday and Wednesday each week causing what looks like a dampened sine curve. It's best to click on the button for the 7-day average so you're comparing each day to the one 7 days previous. 



Hooper31
June 27, 2020 at 08:36:59 AM
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Posted By: alum.427 on June 27 2020 at 06:37:13 AM

WOW, and they wonder why these assholes millenials are the way they are. DO ANY OF YOU NO WHAT THE WORD RESPECT

MEANS ?  It's  your choice, if you care to wear a mask then do so, go sit by others which are doing the same. If you choose not to it's your right to have your opinion. Bash, Bash, Bash.  Look around folks, people are out there destroying American history right in front of your eyes



Asshole millenials?

Calling them assholes seems to indicate it's their fault. If you want to point fingers you ought to be pointing it at their parents. Blaming children for who they become or the state of society in general is lame. They're children. They don't control anything. They are a product of the society their parents created for them. When they're children they don't get to vote. They don't have jobs. They control nothing. 

So, who are really the assholes?



revjimk
June 27, 2020 at 12:13:20 PM
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LInk to the Johns-Hopkins data. 
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

 

There's only one graph that I look at each day on that linked page. It's the Daily Deaths. In my mind it's the only objective data we have to go on. When you hear about "increases" in cases that's relative to the number being tested. Most news outlets aren't sharing that number. If we were talking about a percent of randomly selected people being tested we might have some data worth discussion, but for now we're dealing with several forms of statistical bias. Who is volunteering to be tested? And what motivation exists for them that may not have a couple of months ago? Again, bias data. However, the death count isn't so subjective. You can make arguments about who is or isn't being counted as an official Covid death, but unless you subscribe to a nationwide conspiracy amongst doctors it's the best we have. 

Conclusion: The deaths are steadily dropping. Will we see an increase in death count in a week? If so, it would seem there was a legitimate increase in the number of true cases (whether tested or not). We'll see. This is the discussion I would be having each day if I were the president. I think the president has tried to take the conversation in this direction, but he's done a poor job if it. 

 

EDIT: Final note. The sinusoidal nature of that deaths graph is due to some states not reporting deaths over the weekends. They get lumped into Tuesday and Wednesday each week causing what looks like a dampened sine curve. It's best to click on the button for the 7-day average so you're comparing each day to the one 7 days previous. 



"sinusoidal"???
you got me on that one... ;)



revjimk
June 27, 2020 at 12:18:04 PM
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Posted By: alum.427 on June 27 2020 at 06:37:13 AM

WOW, and they wonder why these assholes millenials are the way they are. DO ANY OF YOU NO WHAT THE WORD RESPECT

MEANS ?  It's  your choice, if you care to wear a mask then do so, go sit by others which are doing the same. If you choose not to it's your right to have your opinion. Bash, Bash, Bash.  Look around folks, people are out there destroying American history right in front of your eyes



I'm all for sticking to racing, but I'm not gonna let some of these comments go unanswered.

Unfortunately, this pandemic is not a "live & let live" situation. Our actions can affect everyone else

Then you have to make the thinly veiled political comment "people are out there destroying American history right in front of your eyes"

 History can't be destroyed, unlike statues



Johnny Utah
June 27, 2020 at 12:31:33 PM
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I guess we can now say for certain what happened to Colonel Nathan R. Jessup after he served his sentence at Leavenworth for ordering the Code Red.

He moved to rural PA and became a sprint car fan. 

 



railfan33
June 27, 2020 at 01:24:10 PM
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I'm all for sticking to racing, but I'm not gonna let some of these comments go unanswered.

Unfortunately, this pandemic is not a "live & let live" situation. Our actions can affect everyone else

Then you have to make the thinly veiled political comment "people are out there destroying American history right in front of your eyes"

 History can't be destroyed, unlike statues



Statues are part of our history. I remember the media going crazy when the taliban were destroying ancient historical sites in the Middle East. Now the media all but supports it.

When an elected mayor characterizes the actions of anarchists occupying  portions of a major US city as "the summer of love", we have way more to worry about than COVID 19! 

Now back to the races. Went to the Grove last night, roamed the pits and watched from the infield. Place was packed. Social distanced as much as I could. In areas where that wasn't possible (crossing the bridge and standing in food line) I put on my mask. Prediction...Larson will win Pa Speedweek.

 



longtimefan
June 27, 2020 at 03:19:10 PM
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Statues are part of our history. I remember the media going crazy when the taliban were destroying ancient historical sites in the Middle East. Now the media all but supports it.

When an elected mayor characterizes the actions of anarchists occupying  portions of a major US city as "the summer of love", we have way more to worry about than COVID 19! 

Now back to the races. Went to the Grove last night, roamed the pits and watched from the infield. Place was packed. Social distanced as much as I could. In areas where that wasn't possible (crossing the bridge and standing in food line) I put on my mask. Prediction...Larson will win Pa Speedweek.

 



I would say Larson has a good chance of winning Speed Week if he runs them all because not many team will. It usually comes down to who has trouble a night or two. He will win some races but not all. He is not God. Without some well timed cautions and putting lapped cars to the rear the only way he would have seen Macri At Port on Wednesday would have been with a rear veiw mirror as Macri closed in to lap him. I have seen any of last night's race. As for the rest of the stuff everyone's situlation is different, there is no one size fits all. Live according to your situation.



revjimk
June 27, 2020 at 06:29:39 PM
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Posted By: railfan33 on June 27 2020 at 01:24:10 PM

Statues are part of our history. I remember the media going crazy when the taliban were destroying ancient historical sites in the Middle East. Now the media all but supports it.

When an elected mayor characterizes the actions of anarchists occupying  portions of a major US city as "the summer of love", we have way more to worry about than COVID 19! 

Now back to the races. Went to the Grove last night, roamed the pits and watched from the infield. Place was packed. Social distanced as much as I could. In areas where that wasn't possible (crossing the bridge and standing in food line) I put on my mask. Prediction...Larson will win Pa Speedweek.

 



You can read history in a book any time you want. Statues are for glorification. Nazi symbols are illegal in Germany, but everybody still knows about Hitler

Now back to the races.... I watched WG show on PPV. Looked like  a great crowd, which would be good if not for pandemic. I didn't see anything that looked like "social distancing", or any masks. Hope a lot of fans don't get sick...



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