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Topic: Gravel vs larson
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highspeeddirt
July 18, 2025 at 09:48:20 PM
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Good grief never knew gravel was such a baby. I sure didn't see anything dirty by larson, just hard racing. They both were throwing sliders and clearing, what is the problem with that.



SVMike
July 18, 2025 at 09:56:46 PM
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This message was edited on July 18, 2025 at 10:08:24 PM by SVMike
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Posted By: highspeeddirt on July 18 2025 at 09:48:20 PM

Good grief never knew gravel was such a baby. I sure didn't see anything dirty by larson, just hard racing. They both were throwing sliders and clearing, what is the problem with that.



I'm sure with the adrenaline pumping it seemed like a good idea, but to spin a guy after the checked you know damn well ain't gonna fight back is a little weak.  If I'm being honest, though, I've done some stupid shit with my adrenaline pumping. Hell, I do some stupid shit just walking around on a normal day :-)



dsc1600
July 18, 2025 at 10:06:53 PM
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Good for Gravel. Larson is an overly aggressive driver who routinely runs over people and all the fanboys ignore it. 



BStrawser26
July 18, 2025 at 10:15:02 PM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on July 18 2025 at 10:06:53 PM

Good for Gravel. Larson is an overly aggressive driver who routinely runs over people and all the fanboys ignore it. 



You must be watching different races then what the rest of the country is watching!  


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

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lpjazz
July 18, 2025 at 10:23:12 PM
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Let's hear it from the forum.  Which driver will throw a slider and force the other driver (any driver) to either back out of the throttle or be involved with contact?  Larson or Gravel?



IADIRT
July 18, 2025 at 10:24:30 PM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on July 18 2025 at 10:06:53 PM

Good for Gravel. Larson is an overly aggressive driver who routinely runs over people and all the fanboys ignore it. 



I would say I'm a Larson fan for the most part as he is exciting to watch but I can agree that he races about as agressive as anyone I know. Idk if his mentality is everyone will just brake for me because they know I won't lift but I don't mind someone sticking up for themselves. I think it does make some drivers think twice before throwing a slider they know won't clear without the other individual slamming the brakes. That's what makes racing great though is the unpredictability and watching some guys calculate the moves needed at speed! I'd rather see gravel have a firm conversation but maybe he felt this was the only way to get his attention?



The_Truth_Detector
July 18, 2025 at 10:28:57 PM
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Posted By: lpjazz on July 18 2025 at 10:23:12 PM

Let's hear it from the forum.  Which driver will throw a slider and force the other driver (any driver) to either back out of the throttle or be involved with contact?  Larson or Gravel?



Schuchart



highspeeddirt
July 18, 2025 at 10:40:26 PM
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Watching on dirtvision it looked like good hard racing and nothing dirty. I was surprised when they got into after the checkered.



SVMike
July 18, 2025 at 10:57:00 PM
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This message was edited on July 19, 2025 at 07:14:46 AM by SVMike
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Posted By: The_Truth_Detector on July 18 2025 at 10:28:57 PM

Schuchart



Schuhart, Macedo, Haudensheld, Scelzi, Reitzel, Larson, Day, Abreu, Gravel, etc, etc



dsc1600
July 18, 2025 at 10:57:20 PM
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Posted By: IADIRT on July 18 2025 at 10:24:30 PM

I would say I'm a Larson fan for the most part as he is exciting to watch but I can agree that he races about as agressive as anyone I know. Idk if his mentality is everyone will just brake for me because they know I won't lift but I don't mind someone sticking up for themselves. I think it does make some drivers think twice before throwing a slider they know won't clear without the other individual slamming the brakes. That's what makes racing great though is the unpredictability and watching some guys calculate the moves needed at speed! I'd rather see gravel have a firm conversation but maybe he felt this was the only way to get his attention?



As long as he doesn't do it at speed, turning someone around on the cool down lap is not a big deal. I think there has been a lot going on behind the scenes with the 2 team and High Limit, and it all boiled over this week with the DQ and the hard racing.

Fundamentally we all know Larson is a better sprint car driver than anyone else, which makes his borderline dirty driving all the more indefensible. I think the frustration with that is boiling over and I also think Larson is frustrated with the crew cheif comments and that's causing him to race Gravel even harder. 



dsc1600
July 18, 2025 at 10:58:10 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on July 18 2025 at 10:15:02 PM

You must be watching different races then what the rest of the country is watching!  



As long as I'm on the opposite side of your argument I feel pretty good. 



larsonfan
July 18, 2025 at 11:49:45 PM
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If you folks are on X aka Twitter, check out Larson's post. A+ for good trolling.  Pretty funny.



HoldenCaulfield
July 19, 2025 at 12:16:35 AM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on July 18 2025 at 10:06:53 PM

Good for Gravel. Larson is an overly aggressive driver who routinely runs over people and all the fanboys ignore it. 



Agreed! He's making some pretty sketchy moves out there, forcing others to lift or be hit.


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July 19, 2025 at 03:15:49 AM
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Honestly agree with Gravel here but the post checkered shit has no place. Go throw a punch if you're that mad. 

Larson threw at least two pretty awful sliders at him tonight, one coming to the flag. Someone will sooner or later have enough and not lift, maybe Gravel at this point.

There are plenty of other guys who are just really damn aggressive - some were named here, but my opinion is that Gravel tends to stay on the cleaner side when compared to the other elite drivers.

Saturday night sure will be interesting. 



IADIRT
July 19, 2025 at 05:19:57 AM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on July 18 2025 at 10:57:20 PM

As long as he doesn't do it at speed, turning someone around on the cool down lap is not a big deal. I think there has been a lot going on behind the scenes with the 2 team and High Limit, and it all boiled over this week with the DQ and the hard racing.

Fundamentally we all know Larson is a better sprint car driver than anyone else, which makes his borderline dirty driving all the more indefensible. I think the frustration with that is boiling over and I also think Larson is frustrated with the crew cheif comments and that's causing him to race Gravel even harder. 



What's the crew chief comments?



BStrawser26
July 19, 2025 at 06:45:25 AM
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Posted By: IADIRT on July 19 2025 at 05:19:57 AM

What's the crew chief comments?



Can't be put on here.  Too much profanity!


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Rico - 10 wins
Donny - 0 wins That is right the big fat zero!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

Shortie1
July 19, 2025 at 08:47:38 AM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on July 19 2025 at 06:45:25 AM

Can't be put on here.  Too much profanity!



Both the best in their respective series. David did some NASCAR also. Something to help the rivalry but not a big deal. Acting like a baby not a good look for Tods team and Cody is a good crew cheif but  not to classy sometimes. Using car for retaliation never good.



sonoranrat
July 19, 2025 at 08:50:20 AM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on July 18 2025 at 10:06:53 PM

Good for Gravel. Larson is an overly aggressive driver who routinely runs over people and all the fanboys ignore it. 



Aggressive driving allows you to move up to the big time.  Flying to events in a private jet, parking your motorcoach in a paved area, and huge dollars.  Crying about being beaten gets you, driving overnight to an event, parking your motorcoach (if you have one) in a dirt field, and scrambling to make a living.  If I remember correctly, Gravel attempted door slammers but did not succeed. 

 



racingmoose
July 19, 2025 at 09:54:49 AM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on July 19 2025 at 06:45:25 AM

Can't be put on here.  Too much profanity!



Where can the interview be found?



Truth teller
July 19, 2025 at 10:04:08 AM
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This message was edited on July 19, 2025 at 10:04:39 AM by Truth teller

The two are not the same. Larson is a champion in the highest level of American motorsports. Gravel is a champion because the guy he couldn't beat even for even one title in five years left to form his own series.



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