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Cmon somebody has to post about it. I've  seen multiple views of it and not a good  look for little Freddy  and pops. Sorta felt bad for Danny all strapped in and nothing he can do. Thank God for suitcase Jake. Boy's will be boys

Freddy does more blocking than a Nascar driver. Maybe he and his grumpy old man should concentrate on becoming faster and not having to drive everyone into the inside wall so he doesn't get passed.  Dietrich executed the move perfectly.

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Regardless of who the two drivers involved were, and what their history is, why doesn't move like that earn somebody a black flag?

Are you retarded? Freddie did nothing wrong and double douche flat out drove into him and flipped him. Blatant, obvious and intentional - he even said so on his twitter page. He could kill someone driving like that and it should have been a DQ. I guarantee you he wouldn't do that to an outlaw and if he did, he would have surely been DQ'd. Rightfully so!

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Should have been for sure. Most times, I don't agree with blackflagging anyone for aggressive driving because I don't think they intend to wreck anyone but this one was blatantly obvious. Dietrich even bragged about it on his twitter page. Of course his WWE mentality twitter fans ate it up. The fans in the stands sure didn't and I don't think the other competitors in the pits did either. All this for 4th place in a heat race that qualifies 5. Ridiculous!

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12 years ago Fred got suspended for doing nothing intentional to Lucas, Deitrich goes on tv telling everyone he intentionally wrecked Freddie. Williams Grove does jack shit. And if you can't drive by a "slower" car that doesn't give permission to take them out. Double Dumb. 

Fred got what he deserved period.

Bullshit he didn't do that on purpose. He damn near killed Wolfe, and a couple of safety workers. You can't tell me for one damned moment he didn't run Lucas down there on purpose.  He had damned near 1/8 of a mile to get off him and he just pushed him harder.  Anybody that thinks for one moment that he didnt lean on him on purpose needs their fucking head checked.

https://youtu.be/7l3ipg73djU

You're high off your ass brother

I've seen this video before and it is one of the more vicious crashes I've ever seen. Unbelievable Lucas walked away. That view looking down the front straight tells the tale.  As far as the rest of this mess, I'll start by saying I'm not really a fan of either. Freddie believes that his driving style is perfectly acceptable and that is the problem and it's getting old. When his car is working well and he is capable of moving forward it's not quite as bad but when it's not and he's trying to keep from being passed, look out. He uses multiple lanes and thinks nothing of chopping somebody off.  I have mixed emotions about how Danny chose to handle it. I don't like anybody getting intentionally hit but as long as this has gone on I expected it at some point. That said Danny had to know that even if Freddie only spun out there was still going to be an uproar especially given it was an Outlaw show. I think Danny probably should've been DQ'd. The Outlaws should not be giving a green light to this.  The antics that followed in the pits were simply pathetic.  As Danny came down the pit lane I first thought both Fred and Freddie were going to get run over. Had both Danny and the push vehicle operator not braked they would have. It absolutely was not a good look for Rahmers and reflects badly on the entire team. After all that Freddie goes out in the B and starts outside pole I believe. He starts backing up and we start seeing the same blocking show we saw in the heat race. The last lap he was fourth and chopped Kendall off at least twice that lap trying to hold that last transfer spot. I was glad to see Kendall was able to still get by coming to the checkered.     

agree with both sides not being innocent.  at first i thought rahmer stopped in turn 3 and dd had nowhere to go.  dd made it pretty clear on twitter he wrecked him on purpose.  he should have just kept his mouth shut.  rahmer likes to make passive aggressive comments and act innocent about everything.  

i'm just glad we have somebody like brent marks carrying the pa flag right now.  he's the type of guy we want representing us...i hope.  well spoken, clean racer.  not throwing fits like macri.  not treating sprint car racing like glorified high school football like dd and the rahmers.  marks races sprint cars with the respect it deserves.

Amen!!  Well said!

Couldn't agree more. Danny is a gifted driver but has the mentality of a caveman. He flat out dumped Freddie then bragged about it like he actually did something commendedable then Fred and Freddie acted like douchebags ripping on Danny while he was strapped in the car. Both are an embarrassment to themselves and the sport. Williams Grove should fine both of them and maybe even suspended both teams for one week. 

Williams Grove would have no say it the matter. It was an outlaw race.

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Obviously you've never owned a business. All you do is run your mouth about what every race track does wrong and what YOU think they should do. Invest your life into something then maybe your opinion would actually have some merit.

Strap your ass in a sprint car once. After you got finished pissing yourself you'd realize that being behind the wheel and seeing everything from that perspective is so much different than someone that runs his mouth on a forum with no real knowledge about any of it.

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The most basic thing about driving a sprint car is HOLD YOUR LINE.  Freddie drives in a Z pattern so much that I'm not suprised DD gave him the heave ho in turn 3, BUT as someone who has lost 2 relatives on the racetrack, I don't condone ever using the car as a weapon, ever.  

Ok Mr. Kool Tool, let me explain how this whole thing works. The object of the game is to get a racecar in front of other racecars and to keep said racecar there the best a driver can or the best the car will allow and to cross the finish line ahead of as many racecars in the field as possible. If a driver has a car or cars in front of him or her, it's the driver’s objective to get past that car or cars, this practice is referred to as, RACING. This racing thing may seem odd to you or even crazy, but it's what the rest of us enjoy watching.

With your idiotic comment of Freddy blocking blah blah blah, it's obvious that you would have preferred young Frederick pull to the side and allow Sir Double Dick Douche Bag to go right on by. Do you let your Kool Tool employees show up and simply collect a check ? Or do you actually make them earn that check ?  The only thing that Double Dick executed perfectly is being the Douche Bag he is.

No need to thank me for this lesson Mr. Kool Tool

Regardless of who's call it would be, the call needs to be made. The whole thing was stupid. Start to finish. The on track shit especially gets me because Freddie crashed and crashed pretty hard. We all know what can happen, and unfortunately has happened in the past, when a flipping car gets struck in the cockpit by an oncoming car. What if Freddie had got hit by someone else and was seriously injured or worse? How would Danny feel then knowing that settling a stupid score cost someone their life? It could even happen to someone else who has nothing to do with the beef between Freddie and DD. It just isn't worth it to retaliate that way because bad shit CAN happen. 

Although I can't say I agree with what Danny did, (I suspect he only expected Fr ddie to spin) the bad things can also happen to the guys being run down the track.

What DD did was stupid. He should have been parked by either grove  or woo officials.  Especially after his comments when he climbed out of the car.  Where Freddie ended up on the track if cars where on the pedal coming thru 4 that could have been much much worse.  He's lucky that was a heat race and not the feature.  I have never been a big fan of DD but after that mix up at eldora which he openly admitted how sore he was afterwards and the car they junked that was a low ball move for sure.