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Many people have pointed out his love of this sport and giving back.  It's no secret the weekly TV deal at Knoxville is the primary reason he had a car running there for points.  I have a feeling you'll see some of these MOSS shows with similar TV coverage if he is involved.  I read the article from Penn Live and caught the comment about the possibility of a $50k race.  I could see a a non-outlaw big paying race with a TV deal being sponsored by BGTS.  Talk about great visibility for his product.  

What I know about Mr. Quiring, BGTS and his other business ventures, he's a good businessman.  And the truth is, most good businessmen look for ways to "spend" in a way which reduces the amount they give to uncle Sam.  In today's politically charged climate, I personally know a hell of a lot of business owners that would rather burn a hundred dollar bill than give it to the bunch of bozos in DC.  I would bet my reputation (which isn't saying much really ) this series is a way for him to spend his money doing something he really enjoys and at the end of the day...reduce his tax liability.  Believe me, there's so many tax loopholes, he's a fool if he doesn't take advantage of them.  And if anyone thinks I'm exagerrating, you don't know what it feels like to own your own business, to be a job creator, and have corrupt politicians trying to take more and more of the earnings your company makes.

My great granpda made a lot of money before he retired in the 70's and he had a saying I still remember - "You don't get a lot of money by giving it away for no good reason or by giving it to the government."  Translated - smart people with money find ways to spend it to their advantage - i.e. tax write-offs.  Mr. Quiring isn't looking to make a dime off this series....he doesn't need to and he's already stated it publicly.  If he "sponsors" the series, it's a tax write-off.  If the series takes a loss, it's a tax write-off.  And...it appears he gets enjoyment doing it.  This can be a win-win for him and the racing community.

Dobmeier owns a radiator shop in Grand Forks that he runs during the week. 

Stan Meissner

I don't question the business experience involved in this deal or their ability to fund a series.  No series can succeed without putting an entertaining product aka full fields of cars on the track.  I don't doubt that will be possible at Knoxville and Husets on their regular race nights.  The thing I question is how many drivers and racing teams are in a position to take time of from their day jobs or find people to run their businesses so they can chase this deal.  Some of the names being thrown around in these posts are working people and/or business owners M-F. 

All we can do it wait and see what kind of a schedule they put together, how far from their home base they schedule races and how many commit to running it.  What is the sanction fee going to be for tracks to host this series, how many support classes will run with them, what tracks they'll run at, that type of thing.  No sense getting all ramped up about the deal if all of their races are 5-6 hours down the road. 

Stan Meissner

Tod has already stated there will not be a sanctioning fee to have a MOSS event. Most all racers had regular jobs before deciding to race for a living. Now those who own their own business may be hard pressed to sell out to race full time but some of those that work a regular job for someone make make the choice to turn pro if they know there will be at least 50 410 shows in the area instead of just Knoxville and the low paying Husets weekly.

Like I said before, all these drivers that folks say never travel.... where have they had to travel to? A $2000 to win IRA or MOWA show? Have they ever had the chance to race 3 - 4 times a week for $3000 to win each night? With a point fund for those show in addition to the point funds at Knoxville & Husets?

A lot of things to think about, for fans and teams. I know I can't wait for next summer to see how this works out. 

I dont see Dobmeier doing much different than he already does.  He gets to race three times a week because he starts the weekend at a track near his home, then had until saturday night to get to knoxville and Husets is on his way back home.

So depending on the schedule im sure he makes it to some of them depending on location or if they were just races he would be going to any way.

Henderson has 2 car owners, be interesting to see if one of them decides to do this, but I dont think that car ran anywhere else other than knoxville all year. And how that affects points if he runs the MOSS knoxville shows in the 1 car and the other MOSS shows in another

Racing for a living isn't a very secure form of employment.  There is no retirement plan, they have to pay for their own health coverage and if they're driving for a car owner they can be replaced without notice.  It would be a tough decision for some but maybe not so much for younger drivers who might not have the obligations of a family.  Guys like McCarl, Lasoski, and Dollansky and a few others that were brought up and already have traveled will likely go with this deal.  I could see that happening if they have the backing.  The purses no matter how big they are aren't enough to cover the expense to field a car, keep motors fresh, pay the crew help and keep the hauler running up and down the road.  If more sponsors see a value in this deal and come on board then all of that will be possible.  If a  driver we assume will do this deal doesn't have the sponsor backing to travel now what is going to change next season? 

You say this series will pay $3000 to win each night 3-4 nights a week.  The first thing I like to point out when people bring that up is that there's only one winner.  If I was a driver who worked a regular job I'd probably wait and see how this deal does before giving my notice at work.  There are a lot of factors that come into play.  Do they own their own car or drive for someone?  Does the team have enough sponsorship help to haul up and down the highway.  Do they have a road worthy hauler suited to a deal like this or are they pulling a trailer to their home track with a pickup once a week.  Can they afford the equipment, motors, chassis, parts, that it takes to travel in additon to running for points at their home tracks?  We can't just assume who will and who won't do a deal like this based on what we would like to see happen.

All of these things are an unknown.  Drivers and car owners can have a lot of reasons that they travel or do not travel.  Craig Dollansky mentioned that one of the reasons he wasn't traveling was that he didn't have the help going into the season.  I don't think we'll know for sure until MOSS starts racing and we can see what happens.  I'm sure this series has a good chance to succeed from a business standpoint but we'll have to wait and see how much participation they get.  It will be interesting to see how this all pans out.

Stan Meissner

Of course Stan, this is all speculation. Going to be fun to watch how things shake out. Can't wait to see a schedule. Hope they run close enough to you so you can make a show or 2 if you want. Thank God I live close enough to Knoxville to go every week. Don't know what I would do if I didn't. I can not sit and watch all the various Mod & stock car classes.

Yes I do know that.  Let's see what the schedule has to offer. If most of the shows are Friday, Saturday, or Sunday, I would bet that Mark would make quite a few of them.

If this does go would some current Knoxville regulars consider runing the series for points and not Knoxville?  If payout is the same or even better at times and they run on smaller tracks you might be better off financially.  It's definitely easier to compete on smaller tracks that at Knoxville.  Just a thought.

I would think that well funded teams would have a car that works at knoxville and have other cars to run other tracks

This series is talking about having races in 6 or 7 states. Don't see how you would save enough racing on smaller tracks to make up for that much traveling.