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buzz rightrear
October 06, 2014 at 06:11:35 PM
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Posted By: StaggerLee on October 06 2014 at 06:05:36 PM

All True, after his constant hard on for anyone from Pa, I just want to know what state hes from, and as you can see he is to much of a lil bitch to admit it, or his Mommy made him get off the computer for the night and go put away his toy story dollies that he likes to play with.



LOL

why the hell would i tell you anything when i have you by the balls as it is.

you think you can shame me?

you don't know squat.

go ahead and try.

the hook is too deep in your mouth to spit out now so you might as well swallow it.


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railfan33
October 06, 2014 at 06:27:18 PM
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Posted By: egras on October 05 2014 at 07:15:28 PM

"something you used to get hanged for"

"posse fans of old wouldn't have let that fly"

 

What a bunch of dip$hits.   No wonder I hate going to PA.  Racing incident involving $50,000--nothing else. 

 

You guys got your coveted Jo Pa statue back up yet? 

 



Don't bother coming, no one will miss you anyway.

Oh, by the way this just in off of Trey Starks website discussing next season. "I'm looking forward to going back to Pennsylvannia soon as I can. I enjoy the competition, the fans , and the challenge." Trey's a great kid and was welcomed with open arms by posse fans when he was racing here in the spring. Maybe if you got to know the true race fans in Pa instead of the couple of bad apples you see posting on here, you wouldn't be such a hater.



buzz rightrear
October 06, 2014 at 06:48:48 PM
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Posted By: railfan33 on October 06 2014 at 06:27:18 PM

Don't bother coming, no one will miss you anyway.

Oh, by the way this just in off of Trey Starks website discussing next season. "I'm looking forward to going back to Pennsylvannia soon as I can. I enjoy the competition, the fans , and the challenge." Trey's a great kid and was welcomed with open arms by posse fans when he was racing here in the spring. Maybe if you got to know the true race fans in Pa instead of the couple of bad apples you see posting on here, you wouldn't be such a hater.



the original poster from PA who posted "posse fans of old wouldn't let that slide."

didn't say "some" or "a few". it was all inclusive.

yes it is true a couple of nit wits associated with posse are the ones who push the crap but it doesn't take long for others to join in and support them or defend them.

a few posse fans have voiced rational thoughts and are to be respected but then there are the other ones who just can't handle reciprocation of their BS.

 


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StaggerLee
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October 06, 2014 at 07:49:23 PM
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Posted By: buzz rightrear on October 06 2014 at 06:11:35 PM

LOL

why the hell would i tell you anything when i have you by the balls as it is.

you think you can shame me?

you don't know squat.

go ahead and try.

the hook is too deep in your mouth to spit out now so you might as well swallow it.



You sure are excited about my balls and getting in my mouth, thats ok if your into that stuff Buzz, perhaps Woody the cowboy from your movie would satisfy your needs. I'm just glad your out open and proud of who you are!! You go girl!!!



Macajilly
October 06, 2014 at 07:50:19 PM
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Posted By: BigRightRear on October 06 2014 at 09:14:42 AM


in this footage...the 83 comes across the track to block Wagner and takes him out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d9ef6-vaUY

 



Wow I watched that video and I would say the 83 passed him out and then Wagner hit him.  I don't see any evidence of a block.

 



Macajilly
October 06, 2014 at 08:03:31 PM
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Posted By: rob t. on October 05 2014 at 03:51:09 PM


Gravel won the race fair and square.  I have seen a lot of races and honestly think he apologized for something most drivers wouldn't have apologized for.  He did nothing wrong.  In with the new and out with the old.  That's the problem we are dealing with here.  A young clean cut driver doing well keeping his nose clean.  Someone we should all hope are young kids look up to.  Against a lot of older guys some of who are out of their prime.  Fans need to get used to it.  The young guns are coming fast.  It happens in every sport.  Don't hate them embrace them.  Because they are the future of your beloved sport!!!!  




J&J
October 06, 2014 at 08:47:18 PM
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Posted By: buzz rightrear on October 05 2014 at 08:58:08 PM

my thoughts exactly.

david is beginning to be a real threat out on the tour.

still you have to admit the posse using donny to defend themselves is priceless. it's like he's their best friend or something.



I agree with you that Gravel is defiantly a threat... But to say that Donny is best friends  with posse is pretty funny.

I'M not sure Donny SHITZ has any friends... He doesn't talk or converse with any fellow drivers, he NEVER EVER attends a 

Drivers meeting because of course  he knows everything, he's better than everyone and goes everywhere still with mommy and daddy.

donny decided to throw Gravel under the bus because he couldn't handle the fact that he didn't win. And if Donny doesn't win he pouts like a 5 year old as he did at last years WOO banquet when Pittman Won points... 

Gravel has already achieved something that Schitz couldn't  and that was to have won at the 3 big name tracks at a very young age

knoxville, Williams Grove and Eldora. The other drivers who achieved this is the King and Sammy.

i am not here to play posse against outlaw because they are all very talented drivers.

if gravel did it on purpose he would not have felt badly about it. Showing he apologized about spinning Smith out shows it was not intentional  give the young man a break. He showed feelings to smiths spin. He didn't take him out or destroy his car. Don't think he would of planned and chanced Wrecking smith with his car and not finishing the race himself. 

And as far as gravel going over to Stevie to apologize there are things you have to do after coming off the track. Interviews and photos etc. He did apologize for spinning Smith in his interview on victory lane and to all of smiths fans and pa fans. That speaks volumes. If I was 22 and just won 50grand the last thing I would start my interview with is acknowledging the smith spin, the fans and the pa peeps.



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October 06, 2014 at 08:55:22 PM
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I think he spun out in some loose Gravel.



buzz rightrear
October 06, 2014 at 08:58:38 PM
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Posted By: StaggerLee on October 06 2014 at 07:49:23 PM

You sure are excited about my balls and getting in my mouth, thats ok if your into that stuff Buzz, perhaps Woody the cowboy from your movie would satisfy your needs. I'm just glad your out open and proud of who you are!! You go girl!!!



typical low IQ comeback. you seem to see gay in everything. i can't help the way you interpret things, that is on you.

but it is about what i expected from a person with limited imagination.

the thing about the hook in your mouth you idiot goes like this.

FISH ON!!

i practice catch and release...the thing is how long do i want to play with you before i cut the line.

right now i anm getting a little bored because for a fish that hit so hard you don't seem to be much of a fighter.

 

 

 


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StaggerLee
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October 06, 2014 at 09:09:54 PM
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This message was edited on October 06, 2014 at 09:11:49 PM by StaggerLee
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Posted By: buzz rightrear on October 06 2014 at 08:58:38 PM

typical low IQ comeback. you seem to see gay in everything. i can't help the way you interpret things, that is on you.

but it is about what i expected from a person with limited imagination.

the thing about the hook in your mouth you idiot goes like this.

FISH ON!!

i practice catch and release...the thing is how long do i want to play with you before i cut the line.

right now i anm getting a little bored because for a fish that hit so hard you don't seem to be much of a fighter.

 

 

 



Is that what you guys call it, fishing? I did not know that, secret code, interesting.



buzz rightrear
October 06, 2014 at 09:27:42 PM
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Posted By: J&J on October 06 2014 at 08:47:18 PM

I agree with you that Gravel is defiantly a threat... But to say that Donny is best friends  with posse is pretty funny.

I'M not sure Donny SHITZ has any friends... He doesn't talk or converse with any fellow drivers, he NEVER EVER attends a 

Drivers meeting because of course  he knows everything, he's better than everyone and goes everywhere still with mommy and daddy.

donny decided to throw Gravel under the bus because he couldn't handle the fact that he didn't win. And if Donny doesn't win he pouts like a 5 year old as he did at last years WOO banquet when Pittman Won points... 

Gravel has already achieved something that Schitz couldn't  and that was to have won at the 3 big name tracks at a very young age

knoxville, Williams Grove and Eldora. The other drivers who achieved this is the King and Sammy.

i am not here to play posse against outlaw because they are all very talented drivers.

if gravel did it on purpose he would not have felt badly about it. Showing he apologized about spinning Smith out shows it was not intentional  give the young man a break. He showed feelings to smiths spin. He didn't take him out or destroy his car. Don't think he would of planned and chanced Wrecking smith with his car and not finishing the race himself. 

And as far as gravel going over to Stevie to apologize there are things you have to do after coming off the track. Interviews and photos etc. He did apologize for spinning Smith in his interview on victory lane and to all of smiths fans and pa fans. That speaks volumes. If I was 22 and just won 50grand the last thing I would start my interview with is acknowledging the smith spin, the fans and the pa peeps.



obviously i was being sarcastic about the friend thing with donny but i found it funny that some people who cheered when donny flipped all the way down the back straight at WG and who commonly refer to him as the "donut king" and don't normally have anything good to say about him, all of a sudden take his word as gospel.

just goes to show the BS that seeps out of some people.


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sonoranrat
October 06, 2014 at 09:38:19 PM
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Debate ender---Did either Rahmer or Stevie's father punch Gravel's lights out after the Victory Lane ceremony?  If yes, dirty driving.  If no, just one of 'em racin' deals




buzz rightrear
October 06, 2014 at 09:42:18 PM
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Posted By: StaggerLee on October 06 2014 at 09:09:54 PM

Is that what you guys call it, fishing? I did not know that, secret code, interesting.



you have to be about the dumbest nit wit around.

first you convolute something i said and accuse me of saying something i never did by putting words in my mouth.

you also missed the play on words about not knowing talent if it hit them in the ass.

then even when you have been told you are being phucked with and that you will continue to be phucked with just for the fun of it....you come back for more.

then you continue to use the same old tired gay references....because you don't have the capacity to think of anything else.

i've done this a hundred times and it never gets old. i throw something out there in a specific wording. then someone comes along and gets all bent out of shape telling me i said something i didn't. so i hit them back hard. then they call me names. then they try to use gay references thinking they are cool and that i even give a f#ck what they say. it never gets old...but with you i even tell you what i am doing and what i am going to do and you can't come up with anything original.

so here we go again.....FISH ON!!


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buzz rightrear
October 06, 2014 at 10:28:03 PM
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Posted By: StaggerLee on October 06 2014 at 07:49:23 PM

You sure are excited about my balls and getting in my mouth, thats ok if your into that stuff Buzz, perhaps Woody the cowboy from your movie would satisfy your needs. I'm just glad your out open and proud of who you are!! You go girl!!!




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Jamie Klootwyk
October 06, 2014 at 10:42:56 PM
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So I wonder what the certain fans would be saying if it was Schatz leading and Monteith running him down and giving a little nudge into 1.

My guess is they would be calling Schatz a rolling roadblock and call him an idiot for braking in the high groove before diving to the low groove.  They most certainly wouldn't say Monteith ran out of talent.  I have no problem with anything Gravel did except apologizing for doing what he's hired to do...race hard and win.  

Gravel was the faster driver, in the faster car, running the faster groove.  He would have won anyway.

I bet next time Smith drives a little harder.




StaggerLee
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Posted By: buzz rightrear on October 06 2014 at 09:42:18 PM

you have to be about the dumbest nit wit around.

first you convolute something i said and accuse me of saying something i never did by putting words in my mouth.

you also missed the play on words about not knowing talent if it hit them in the ass.

then even when you have been told you are being phucked with and that you will continue to be phucked with just for the fun of it....you come back for more.

then you continue to use the same old tired gay references....because you don't have the capacity to think of anything else.

i've done this a hundred times and it never gets old. i throw something out there in a specific wording. then someone comes along and gets all bent out of shape telling me i said something i didn't. so i hit them back hard. then they call me names. then they try to use gay references thinking they are cool and that i even give a f#ck what they say. it never gets old...but with you i even tell you what i am doing and what i am going to do and you can't come up with anything original.

so here we go again.....FISH ON!!



I can tell by your long winded replies that I'm not getting to you at all Buzz, I really hit a nerve and I'm sorry, if you reread my posts I never bashed you for your life choices, infact I aplauded you for being proud of it, so why are you getting so angry and spending so much time responding to a dimwit like me? I talked to Woody and he said he is interested, you should call him.



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October 07, 2014 at 09:16:58 AM
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I have said this on another thread, there are probably 10 or so people on this board that give everyone from PA a bad rap.  Not everyone in PA is like this, it is called the 5 percenters.  5% of the polulation give the other 95% of peeple a bad rap for something they didn't do or had no part of.  Just because one person says the Posse of old would not let that slide does not make it a fact.  If your going to make generalizations about the Pennsylvania region being dumb hicks, it would be wise to use proper grammer when wrinting a sentence; not that is matters but you can't be putting people down while looking uneducated yourself.  I have lived in California for many years and a majority of my life in Pennsylvania, both groups of people are great to deal with.  The people in Pennsylvania are more passionate and proud as a whole.  Rest assure there are knuckleheads all around the country, since we seem to have a larger then average fan base, there will be a larger then average representation on message boards of these types of knuckleheads.  However they still are the 5 percenters. 

 

As for the accident, I really couldn't tell from where I was sitting that Gravel hit him.  It wasn't until the interviews that I realized that he had hit him.  Gravel did not act like a punk in victory lane, he showed remorse and seemed genuinely upset.  He is younger guy, maybe and probably made a mistake he regrets.  I did think regardless of the contact he was going to get by Smith so he would have won either way.  It does hurt Smith because 8th paid a lot less then 2nd. 

 

Gravel is paid to win races, if there should be any issue with dirty driving, the sanctioning body should have penalized Gravel.  Since WOO deemed it just a racing deal, how can you really be mad at Gravel.  The rules are to be enforced by the sanctioning body, not the drivers or fans.  I would have more of an issue with the World Of Outlaws officials then Gravel (however I have no issue with either since it did appear to be a racing deal).   Feel bad for Smith and really would have liked to see a Pa driver or car get the money, but it didn't happen. 



railfan33
October 07, 2014 at 10:11:46 AM
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Posted By: egras on October 05 2014 at 07:15:28 PM

"something you used to get hanged for"

"posse fans of old wouldn't have let that fly"

 

What a bunch of dip$hits.   No wonder I hate going to PA.  Racing incident involving $50,000--nothing else. 

 

You guys got your coveted Jo Pa statue back up yet? 

 



Hopefully this thread is close to running it's course, but........I don't think the poster of the 'posse fans of old'comment is from Pa...




buzz rightrear
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Posted By: StaggerLee on October 07 2014 at 06:55:27 AM

I can tell by your long winded replies that I'm not getting to you at all Buzz, I really hit a nerve and I'm sorry, if you reread my posts I never bashed you for your life choices, infact I aplauded you for being proud of it, so why are you getting so angry and spending so much time responding to a dimwit like me? I talked to Woody and he said he is interested, you should call him.



you should really do something about your persistent gay fetish.

oh one more thing...."SNIP".


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buzz rightrear
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Hopefully this thread is close to running it's course, but........I don't think the poster of the 'posse fans of old'comment is from Pa...



i could have been mistaken. if so it wouldn't be the first time and i'm sure it won't be the last. Smile


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