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HoldenCaulfield
September 05, 2012 at 02:19:58 AM
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No XXX cars in the A-main at Knoxville; now that's something to think about.


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88sprint
September 05, 2012 at 09:41:11 AM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on September 04 2012 at 07:01:22 PM

As far as I know TripleX is the only race car chassis built in China. 50,000 drag, stock car and open wheel chassis across the United States and TripleX sprint cars are the only low-lifes greedy enough to do it. Their day is coming.

Sixteen entries are in hand for IMCA’s third annual Manufacturer’s Cup contest

VINTON, Iowa – Sixteen entries are in hand for IMCA’s third annual
Manufacturer’s Cup contest.

Modified builders compete for national and regional awards, based on top 10
standings in each of the five regions.

The builder with the top overall point total will be recognized as the
national Manufacturer of the Year, a title that will be accompanied by a $500
prize and a trophy, along with jackets for all staff members courtesy of
Speedway Motors.

DirtHead will give wall graphics of each car in the regional top 10 to the
respective builders.

New to the Manufacturers’ Cup field are Allen Autosports of Urbana, Mo.;
DirtWorks Race Cars of Walker, Mo., Kazzbuilt Race Cars of Waterloo and Smiley’s
Racing Chassis of Mesquite, Texas.

They join Belleville Motorsports of Bellevillle, Kan.; Billsbuilt Race Cars
of Wichita, Kan.; Destroyer Chassis of Kennedale, Texas; GRT Race Cars of
Greenbrier, Ark.; defending national Manufacturer of the Year Harris Auto Racing
of Boone; Hoffman Race Cars of Oronogo, Mo.; Jet Racing of Beatrice, Neb.; Larry
Shaw Racing of Batesville, Ark.; Medieval Chassis of Mayer, Minn.; Skyrocket
Chassis of Fertile; Sharp Racing Products of Amarillo, Texas; and Victory
Chassis of Boone.

“This program is a great way for Modified chassis builders to get more
exposure,” noted IMCA Marketing Director Kevin Yoder. “Different builders won in
each of the five regions last year and 13 builders had one or more cars finish
in the top 10 in regional points.”

Manufacturer’s Cup awards will be presented during the national IMCA awards
banquet in November.

https://imca.com/sponsors/manufacturers-cup/



Nice how you edit your post at 530 in the morning before everyone read the original one that 2 people had already replied to.....

Since you had time to edit the original, why didn't you have time to answer a couple of our questions?



88sprint
September 05, 2012 at 09:47:07 AM
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Posted By: HoldenCaulfield on September 05 2012 at 02:04:19 AM

I remember the 21 team at Lincoln a couple years ago talking in VL about how they had over 200 races on the MAXIM car they just won with. Have they put 200 races on any XXX? What changed? Oh that's right, FREE Maxim knockoffs. How much R&D did the Chinese put into it?



The Chinese probably didn't put any R&D into the cars. The guys in Washington state did that....

So if you owned a race team, you would rather buy your cars than use free ones? I can tell you from experience unless you have DEEP pockets, you wouldn't be racing long...

Has the 21 ran 200 races since he started running Triple X? If not, then how could he put that many on one? One more question, why would he want to? Most cars give out long before that, ALL manufacturers included...




88sprint
September 05, 2012 at 09:50:22 AM
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Posted By: HoldenCaulfield on September 05 2012 at 02:17:19 AM

Americans who work in manufacturing , chasis manufacturers who have had their hard work and development ripped off and anyone else who feels that working people should make more than 50 cents an hour; that's who. You should really change your avatar to a team that runs Chinese cars; it's a disgrace to the 30c Maxim team.



So I am guessing you think Maxim was the first sprintcar on the market? They didn't copy ANYONE elses designs? Ever heard of Gambler? Trostle? Thats just to name a couple. Triple X hasn't "copied" any more than any other of the companies have...



88sprint
September 05, 2012 at 09:53:50 AM
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Posted By: HoldenCaulfield on September 05 2012 at 02:19:58 AM

No XXX cars in the A-main at Knoxville; now that's something to think about.



Hundreds of Simpson and Winters products though. Something to think about.

I don't know why it matters what part is being made overseas. If you are against overseas production, why aren't you against any of the companies other than Triple X? It just shows you only have a problem with that particular company, not the fact they are made in China...



opnwhlr
September 05, 2012 at 10:00:56 AM
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All this nonsense while they are sitting doing their posting on a puter...made in TAIWAN!!!Wink

(and when they have a problem get their customer service answers....from....INDIA!) Wink


 
I LEARNED ESP FROM MY MOM

"PUT YOUR SWEATER ON: DON'T YOU THINK I KNOW WHEN 
YOU'RE COLD?"


daboy
September 05, 2012 at 10:02:09 AM
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To the OP I have heard others having trouble with the J and J and switching to another chassis.

 

To cubic, we have both a Maxim and a XXX in our shop and looking at the welds between the two that little 4ft Asian chick is a better welder. ;-)


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opnwhlr
September 05, 2012 at 10:42:01 AM
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To cubic, we have both a Maxim and a XXX in our shop and looking at the welds between the two that little 4ft Asian chick is a better welder. ;-)

That's impossible....it wasn't done "here" so you must be mistaken! Smile Wink

 


 
I LEARNED ESP FROM MY MOM

"PUT YOUR SWEATER ON: DON'T YOU THINK I KNOW WHEN 
YOU'RE COLD?"

bigallardfan
September 05, 2012 at 11:08:34 AM
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This message was edited on September 05, 2012 at 11:12:03 AM by bigallardfan
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Posted By: HoldenCaulfield on September 05 2012 at 02:17:19 AM

Americans who work in manufacturing , chasis manufacturers who have had their hard work and development ripped off and anyone else who feels that working people should make more than 50 cents an hour; that's who. You should really change your avatar to a team that runs Chinese cars; it's a disgrace to the 30c Maxim team.



Little history lesson for you.

The first "Maxim" was actually a "Magnum" chassis with basically zero modifications. So ... big shock for you ... Maxim copied another chassis.

Do a little research before you type.

And now we can move forward with Cubic and Holden telling us how that is totally different Smile




cubicdollars
September 05, 2012 at 06:22:12 PM
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This message was edited on September 05, 2012 at 07:12:57 PM by cubicdollars

Thousands of race cars across America and xXx is the only one who outsources chassis to China???

http://www.latemodelracer.com/schedule/september/


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


herman327
September 05, 2012 at 08:55:18 PM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on September 05 2012 at 06:22:12 PM

Thousands of race cars across America and xXx is the only one who outsources chassis to China???

http://www.latemodelracer.com/schedule/september/



Oh, now I get it...OR NOT....what the hell is this website supposed to prove? We are talking Sprint Cars....Correct? You know the ones with the funny wing thingys on the top!! Thanks for all the insight on what is wrong with the world today. Triple X is obviously public enemy #1. lol

 



ThePurple73
September 05, 2012 at 09:26:29 PM
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This message was edited on September 05, 2012 at 09:29:26 PM by ThePurple73

Here is a chassis question. Maybe some of you chassis guru's can help me on what transitioned. I remember when Gary Stanton out of Pheonix made great race cars. Didn't his cars later become known as Challenger chassis? Then did it evolve into another brand? Did someone buy the company? Is it still in operation?




HoldenCaulfield
September 06, 2012 at 01:26:06 AM
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So what do you fucking geniuses think happens to gas and oil prices when we are importing things that can and should be manufactured here? You think you're saving money? What does it do to the unemployment rate? What about when these Chinese frames get bent up and nobody in the US will work on them? Do they get sent back to the 4 ft. China girl for repair or are they scrap metal? Brent Marks had to run his old Maxim after trashing a few XXX's last year and did just as well. Some others had to sit out while waiting on the slow boat from China. I'm not saying XXX are bad cars but they are made in China. They're obviously fast enough to win a lot of places, just not fast enough to make the A-main at the K-ville nationals. Whether Chinese steel is as safe as US or German is another debate. Like any car, some people like them and some people don't. Yes there are some teams who tried them and switched to another brand. I'd bet that Mark Smith's Mach-1 chasis has one of the highest winning percentages of any brand considering only a few teams run them. At least 13 wins at Selinsgrove and several at Port Royal and Williams Grove.


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HoldenCaulfield
September 06, 2012 at 01:33:41 AM
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Posted By: 88sprint on September 05 2012 at 09:47:07 AM

The Chinese probably didn't put any R&D into the cars. The guys in Washington state did that....

So if you owned a race team, you would rather buy your cars than use free ones? I can tell you from experience unless you have DEEP pockets, you wouldn't be racing long...

Has the 21 ran 200 races since he started running Triple X? If not, then how could he put that many on one? One more question, why would he want to? Most cars give out long before that, ALL manufacturers included...



Montieth WON with a 200+ race Maxim. Has any XXX ever come close to 200 races let alone winning? Hey I don't blame them for accepting free cars. It's a great marketing stategy for XXX by choosing a very popular and successful driver to get their foothold in the biggest sprint car market in the world. However I won't root for or buy any merchandise from that team of which I used to be a fan.


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HoldenCaulfield
September 06, 2012 at 02:07:08 AM
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Posted By: 88sprint on September 05 2012 at 09:53:50 AM

Hundreds of Simpson and Winters products though. Something to think about.

I don't know why it matters what part is being made overseas. If you are against overseas production, why aren't you against any of the companies other than Triple X? It just shows you only have a problem with that particular company, not the fact they are made in China...



I'm not against overseas production. I'm for fair trade with countries that have labor and environmental standards similiar to ours. Trade with Japan, Germany, England, Canada, etc. is a good thing. I'm sure most people trying to breathe on the west coast would agree. They had to shut down manufacturing at the Beijing olympics so the athletes could breathe and the pollution in China is horrific.


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HoldenCaulfield
September 06, 2012 at 02:18:20 AM
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Posted By: opnwhlr on September 05 2012 at 10:00:56 AM

All this nonsense while they are sitting doing their posting on a puter...made in TAIWAN!!!Wink

(and when they have a problem get their customer service answers....from....INDIA!) Wink



You tell me where I can get an American made computer and I'll go out and buy one tommorow. That's the whole problem. Many things you can't buy made anywhere but China anymore and I guess you guys think sprint cars should be the same. Obviously you people don't live in an area that has been hit hard by the mass exodus of manufacturing jobs. I hope you're not wondering why the US economy has been in shambles for over a decade now. Surely you can't be serious with your nonsense. If more people paid attention to where the products they purchase are made, it would be the biggest boost to the economy that anyone could imagine.


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88sprint
September 06, 2012 at 09:05:30 AM
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Posted By: HoldenCaulfield on September 06 2012 at 01:33:41 AM

Montieth WON with a 200+ race Maxim. Has any XXX ever come close to 200 races let alone winning? Hey I don't blame them for accepting free cars. It's a great marketing stategy for XXX by choosing a very popular and successful driver to get their foothold in the biggest sprint car market in the world. However I won't root for or buy any merchandise from that team of which I used to be a fan.



So do you think Maxim/J&J doesn't give away free cars to popular and successful drivers? Why is Triple X the only one being talked about? I guess you equally agree Maxim/J&J give away cars because that is the only way people will run them?



88sprint
September 06, 2012 at 09:14:18 AM
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Posted By: HoldenCaulfield on September 06 2012 at 01:26:06 AM

So what do you fucking geniuses think happens to gas and oil prices when we are importing things that can and should be manufactured here? You think you're saving money? What does it do to the unemployment rate? What about when these Chinese frames get bent up and nobody in the US will work on them? Do they get sent back to the 4 ft. China girl for repair or are they scrap metal? Brent Marks had to run his old Maxim after trashing a few XXX's last year and did just as well. Some others had to sit out while waiting on the slow boat from China. I'm not saying XXX are bad cars but they are made in China. They're obviously fast enough to win a lot of places, just not fast enough to make the A-main at the K-ville nationals. Whether Chinese steel is as safe as US or German is another debate. Like any car, some people like them and some people don't. Yes there are some teams who tried them and switched to another brand. I'd bet that Mark Smith's Mach-1 chasis has one of the highest winning percentages of any brand considering only a few teams run them. At least 13 wins at Selinsgrove and several at Port Royal and Williams Grove.



Starting out with namecalling, that's original....

So now it is Triple X's fault that gas is so high? WOW.....

You haven't called around much if you think "no one" in the US will work on them. Pretty sure I have only heard of 1 company that won't....I know a lot of guys who have had them fixed along with all the other manufacturers that get bent from time to time.

How can you use 1 race to determine whether or not they are a good car? If that is the only way to judge performance, I guess Sammy and Steve shouldn't be on the road anymore....(not to mention ALL the other winning drivers who didn't make it in)

 

 

 

 




88sprint
September 06, 2012 at 09:16:35 AM
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Posted By: HoldenCaulfield on September 06 2012 at 02:07:08 AM

I'm not against overseas production. I'm for fair trade with countries that have labor and environmental standards similiar to ours. Trade with Japan, Germany, England, Canada, etc. is a good thing. I'm sure most people trying to breathe on the west coast would agree. They had to shut down manufacturing at the Beijing olympics so the athletes could breathe and the pollution in China is horrific.



So like I said, you aren't against overseas production, you are only against Triple X.....



[email protected]
September 06, 2012 at 11:20:48 AM
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Posted By: HoldenCaulfield on September 06 2012 at 01:33:41 AM

Montieth WON with a 200+ race Maxim. Has any XXX ever come close to 200 races let alone winning? Hey I don't blame them for accepting free cars. It's a great marketing stategy for XXX by choosing a very popular and successful driver to get their foothold in the biggest sprint car market in the world. However I won't root for or buy any merchandise from that team of which I used to be a fan.



I'm not sure of the exact number of races on this chassis, but this is chassis # 5 built in 2006. It won the 2011 sportsman sprint championship at Skagit Speedway, and is still racing today (with 2 wins this year). That's 6 years of racing on the same chassis.

 





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