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Being one of the originral members of this message board, I have frequented maybe twice a month the topics here.  This topic is very interesting and makes for good reading and you all should be applauded. Discussions and opinions without being called an "idiot" or whatever.

"Husets", which is what we traditionalist will always call it, should see about the same quality as they have now. Knoxville is Knoxville and nothing, not even money, will ever change that. Hands down Knoxville will continue to be the place from mid-July until after the Nationals. That time frame will see if this guy understands the sport or gets frustrated and makes changes because of lack of 410's. If Knoxville happens to rain out on any given Saturday night then "Husets" could greatly benefit in that circumstance.

If I lived up there I would continue to support Knoxville yet, for those on the fance, support "Husets" as one thing nobody wants is a track to close. A closing track does nobody any good.

Again it is great and refreshing to see so many passionate about our little sport and we all can still have interesting converstations and comments. 

Continue on......

David Smith Jr.
www.oklahomatidbits.com

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Agreed that Mr.Brennan does not have a grip on knowledge of sprint cars, probably houses an overinflated ego, says some very unintelligent things and is arrogant but he is NOT a sleezy businessman. Short time loan firms are abundant in South Dakota and  within the law. I do not know Mr.Brennan and will probably never have to do business with him but he does provide a service to folks who need short time loans.  The interest rate is the same for all business firms including Sanford Health which is funded by Mr. Denny Sanford who made his fortunes on credit cards that also charge the same interest rate.

Here's a link for you about the interest rates Chuck charges.

http://www.keloland.com/newsdetail.cfm/lawsuit-takes-aim-at-effort-to-cap-payday-loan-interest-rates/?id=181101

Its a fair bit more than the 25% that credit cards charge for a cash advance.

I'm guessing Chucks part of the group that filed the lawsuit against the SD attorney general as he's claimed that he will close his Dollar Loan centers if the ballot initiative capping interest rates at 36% gets approved.

Sleezy business?     Maybe not but its not about helping people, its about helping himself to the money that they don't have.

It sounded good til I started reading the comments about competing with Knoxville...

Sounds like he doesn't really understand the scene

Thanks kooks for your interest and viewpoints on this subject.  Although I would rather not discuss this topic on  a s ocial media forum I think it is important to remember that nobody forces people to do business with these firms. Also please remember that many  payday loan companies like other business firms are legimate and private owned enterprises. The last thing our economy needs right now is more government intervention in any form directed towards the private sector and that includes  taxes, caps on interest rates, regulations of public commodities and endorsed and enforced health programs. More government control is NOT the answer and for those folks who still think the government will take care of all problems  by feeding, clothing and housing should maybe check with the Sioux Indians first. Or,if Mr Brennan and other payday loan owners are successful at their business the first thing the government will do is penalize them for being a success. Again thanks kooks for your opinion,which is a valid point, and let us agree to drop this subject and let time determine the final outcome.

"Gimme fuel, Gimme fire, Gimme that which I desire!"

No bearing on the Husets descision to go to Saturday but it's one of those unforseen occrences with the potential to shuffle things around.  That's all, just an obervation that we're only a couple months in and there's a change that could potentially set things back.  I think if you're able to read you need to reread my post, I said the NSL has kept their word and done everything they said they'd do.  Nevertheless, this change has the potential to affect them in a couple of ways.  If you're reading into what I said that I was ripping on the NSL I think you need to read again slowly and not pay attention to what you're seeing between the lines.

Hey, it could have been worse.  At least the NSL is a Midwest series that runs at Husets.  I could have taken the opportunity to drag the Posse into this. 

Stan Meissner

I'm having a hard time figuring out why people are so upset. The guy is dumping 5 million dollars into the place to make it better. He's already hired a longtime racing person, Tom Savage Jr, and his commitment to the race track seems pretty obvious. His concert venue, according the press conference, is only the infield. If it was going to be turned into just a concert venue, then why is he spending so much money updating the grandstands, adding a merchandise and Hall of Fame building on the grandstand side?

People so easily look to the negative. The guy is dumping a huge amount of money into sprint car racing, and all anyone can do is complain and be worried. I say embrace the udpates and enjoy the ride. This is going to be awesome!

Facility wise, there is already something much nicer--Lucas Oil Speedway in Wheatland, MO.   With that being said, Knoxville is a great place.

Too bad it isn't Tom Savage Sr.

Its pretty simple as many of others have stated...

One night of racing for many midwesterners instead of two

One pay check instead of two (Since racing is JUST a business for Terry)

Fewer cars at both tracks than what they are currently getting

Fewer fans since some of those that live between the two will now have to choose

Working to try and harm other tracks instead of helping the sport. Not something a die hard fan should support.

This article brings up so,e good points, also says Brian Brown thinks it's a horrible idea.  http://lastwordonsports.com/2015/06/15/response-husets-speedway-trying-race-knoxville/

Let's hope for lots of Saturday night rainouts next year @ Huset's.

What bothers me, is the total disrespect for 2 pillars in sprint car racing in the Midwest (and the USA for that matter), Husets and Knoxville!! It took Chuck all of about 2 seconds to change the name from Husets to Badlands and now, if he hears the name Knoxville again, he is gonna vomit. So he is gonna try to knock them down a few notches too, with total disregard for Jackson, Hartford or any other track or series that will feel the repercussions of a move to Satuday nights. I think the racers should be very skeptical about this guy. If he is so willing to trash everything and leave the mess in his wake, WHY should the racers believe that they will be "taken care of" in the future. Chuck doesn't care about the racers or racing, he cares about the almighty dollar number 1 and always will (see Dollar Loan Center). Millionaires dont become Millionaires by losing money. Money is what motivates this guy and I can't believe he is just gonna pour 5 million dollars into this facility without a big return at some point. Why not just take over this track and build it up. Everyone knows that Husets isn't what it used to be. So fix it!! Make it the best you can and IF after 3 or 4 years you have built it into something really special, THEN, I could see expansion. But to just call a press conference and make changes is gonna lead to a slippery slope and I hate to see what the landscape of racing in the upper midwest will look like when the dust settles.

Brian Brown doesn't race at Husets anyway! 

help us out here...how many hundreds of miles does the midwest need between their saturday night tracks?

Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

Exactly! So why should he care other than he is concerned with helping out the sport the best way he can. By Terrys logic he should be in favor of this change but he wants whats best for the sport not whats best for Brian. This could mean fewer cars at Knoxville/less competition and possibly more pay to complete with Husets yet he is still not in favor. I used to not be a huge fan or Brownie but more and more he continues to impress me as one of the best ambassadors of the sport!

Every driver is for themself, don't kid yourself! There is a guy about to inject millions into a rundown facility and everyone is up in arms. Brandon, SD is 5 1/2 hours from Knoxville, it's not like he is starting a racetrack next door to Knoxville. This may intice everyone to lift their game. 

Wouldn't more pay at knoxville be the best possible outcome out of this? 

Why cant both pay more and still run on seperate nights? More pay is better unless you pay more, split fans, and split cars leading to both making less. Id like more pay for the drivers and think Knoxville should up it a bit competing with Husets or not. It still just doesnt make sense to force drivers to choose. 5 and 1/2 hours in the midwest isnt that long of a haul for many of the 410 drivers. Also competing purses will be decieving. They 3 day show of $200,000 purse looks extremely top heavy from a preliminary standpoint unlike the Nationals.