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BStrawser26
January 25, 2015 at 07:38:32 PM
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Posted By: miledirtfan on January 25 2015 at 07:02:02 PM

Agreed about NASCAR and fender racing... however

But this is a sprint car forum and back to topic... Larson will never be able to hold a candle to what Swindell has done in a sprint car racing. 



Larson if he wouldn't have went to Nascar probably would have been better than Sammy.  I do know Kyle has won in a lot of different dirt track and asphalt series than Sammy could ever even dream of racing.  If it has wheels Kyle probably will win in the future or already has a win in that series!!   Kyle is probably the most versitale driver I have ever seen in a race car in my 33 years of following racing.  The next on that list probably would be Jack Hewitt.....followed by Billy the Kid Pouch.   The best sprint car driver I have ever seen has been King Kinser....hands down without discussion!!


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Posted By: BStrawser26 on January 25 2015 at 07:38:32 PM

Larson if he wouldn't have went to Nascar probably would have been better than Sammy.  I do know Kyle has won in a lot of different dirt track and asphalt series than Sammy could ever even dream of racing.  If it has wheels Kyle probably will win in the future or already has a win in that series!!   Kyle is probably the most versitale driver I have ever seen in a race car in my 33 years of following racing.  The next on that list probably would be Jack Hewitt.....followed by Billy the Kid Pouch.   The best sprint car driver I have ever seen has been King Kinser....hands down without discussion!!



Well has Larson done more than kinser? What else did kinser do outside sprints? Larson is in no league of kinser swindell or many outhers kinser might be one of the 10 best drivers ever larson not close



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January 25, 2015 at 08:26:28 PM
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Posted By: gfnd2011 on January 25 2015 at 07:54:42 PM

Well has Larson done more than kinser? What else did kinser do outside sprints? Larson is in no league of kinser swindell or many outhers kinser might be one of the 10 best drivers ever larson not close



well steve did more than just sprints. he made it to indy more than once and he actually made a decent attempt at cup racing with a team that was on its way out. he also had success in the IROC series. how much had sammy done at 22?


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Posted By: buzz rightrear on January 25 2015 at 08:26:28 PM

well steve did more than just sprints. he made it to indy more than once and he actually made a decent attempt at cup racing with a team that was on its way out. he also had success in the IROC series. how much had sammy done at 22?



Steve won one irock race what else did he do that was impresive outher than he's the best sprint car driver ever Larson not even close



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Sorry guy's, though Larson might get there one day as of now it's still between Andretti and Foyt if you're talking about versatility and longevity and just plan old gut's. Now if you're just talking Sprints, Larson hasn't turned enough laps in one to be considered in the top 5, probably 10 or higher.

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Posted By: gfnd2011 on January 25 2015 at 08:34:21 PM

Steve won one irock race what else did he do that was impresive outher than he's the best sprint car driver ever Larson not even close



well one IROC win is one more than sammy will ever have.

and you are correct steve is the best sprint car driver that has ever sat in one.

you have just explained why steve is better than sammy.

but just what does that have to do with larsons accomplishments over sammy?


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January 25, 2015 at 10:02:21 PM
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I like how competitive Sammy is. I think that it is kind of a problem that so many of these Sprint/Midget teams are all SOOOO friendly with each other is that sometimes they forget that racing gets dirty and the friendships dont exist on the track.  Sammy is a competitor and is all about winning. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

 

just my .02


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gfnd2011
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Posted By: buzz rightrear on January 25 2015 at 09:45:21 PM

well one IROC win is one more than sammy will ever have.

and you are correct steve is the best sprint car driver that has ever sat in one.

you have just explained why steve is better than sammy.

but just what does that have to do with larsons accomplishments over sammy?



Larson is not in the same league as kinser swindell the wolf or petty Pearson earnhart Gordon Allison walltrp force garlets all excelled in there class of cars but did little to nothing elswere maybe Larson will be in there one day but not yet saying it is just stupid 



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Posted By: gfnd2011 on January 25 2015 at 10:08:05 PM

Larson is not in the same league as kinser swindell the wolf or petty Pearson earnhart Gordon Allison walltrp force garlets all excelled in there class of cars but did little to nothing elswere maybe Larson will be in there one day but not yet saying it is just stupid 



yep they allexcelled in THEIR CLASS of cars.

larson has had success in many classes of cars in a short period of time.

just what does that have to do with larson accomplishing more than sammy in a such a short time?

 

 


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gfnd2011
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Posted By: buzz rightrear on January 25 2015 at 10:13:27 PM

yep they allexcelled in THEIR CLASS of cars.

larson has had success in many classes of cars in a short period of time.

just what does that have to do with larson accomplishing more than sammy in a such a short time?

 

 



The point is he hasn't done it if you say he has done more than sammy then he's done more than the outhers to unless your formula 1 champion you can always go up that's my point Larson is not close the smy or the list above 



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Posted By: gfnd2011 on January 25 2015 at 10:35:48 PM

The point is he hasn't done it if you say he has done more than sammy then he's done more than the outhers to unless your formula 1 champion you can always go up that's my point Larson is not close the smy or the list above 



you are trying to compare wins...in one form of racing. yes sammy has more wins in 45 years of sprint car racing than larson has in less than five full years. but look what else larson has done in those five years that sammy never will.

larson just teamed to win one of the biggest and most prestigious races in the entire world of motorsports and you guys are talking about golden drillers. that is like trying to compare the super bowl trophy to a lettermans jacket.

larson won three national events in one day at a track he never even saw. same thing with the belleville nationals, he won without ever seeing the place. he won the championship in his first ever stock car season. talent and success is not gaged by wins alone.

i never said larson had done more in sprints. the thing is sprints is all you keep trying to compare larson with. larson had his success in sprints and turned it into success in other forms of racing. when you talk about versitility and the ability to perform with success in multiple driving disciplines larson is doing things that sammy never will.

so you keep bragging about all those sprint car wins....because that is all you have to talk about.


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Posted By: buzz rightrear on January 25 2015 at 11:05:07 PM

you are trying to compare wins...in one form of racing. yes sammy has more wins in 45 years of sprint car racing than larson has in less than five full years. but look what else larson has done in those five years that sammy never will.

larson just teamed to win one of the biggest and most prestigious races in the entire world of motorsports and you guys are talking about golden drillers. that is like trying to compare the super bowl trophy to a lettermans jacket.

larson won three national events in one day at a track he never even saw. same thing with the belleville nationals, he won without ever seeing the place. he won the championship in his first ever stock car season. talent and success is not gaged by wins alone.

i never said larson had done more in sprints. the thing is sprints is all you keep trying to compare larson with. larson had his success in sprints and turned it into success in other forms of racing. when you talk about versitility and the ability to perform with success in multiple driving disciplines larson is doing things that sammy never will.

so you keep bragging about all those sprint car wins....because that is all you have to talk about.



And I'm saying don't just say sammy say he's done more than kinser dale and petty and force same difference 




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Sammy tried Indy cars in the 80's and stock cars in the 90's.....he failed at both.  



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This message was edited on January 26, 2015 at 06:36:41 PM by Sprinter 79

Without picking sides here, there is a HUGE difference between available equipment, caliber of teams, and payout at these shows when comparing what happened even 10 years ago agianst what is happening today. Larson is a really good driver, who in 20 years or so may prove to be the greatest. He has had the good fortune to team with some very successful enterprises outside of Sprint Car racing which has helped propel him to success. It is not like Ganasi has never won a 24 hour race. Not saying that is the reason, but you would be remis to think that it did not contribute. That also goes for the success level of most of the drivers that came before him and will for those who come after him.  

Sammy is a great driver in his own right, but to even try to compare his earnings with that of what is available to a kid coming up who lands in the right places is really silly. My bet is that Larson has already out earned Foyt at this stage in Foyt's career as well.  Again, not saying the Larson did not earn it, he most certainly did.

My point is that this is all good fun, but at the end of the day there are a lot of factors that are involved. Both Sammy and Kyle are great drivers, and I hope that Larson has a long career and finds much success, but it gets a little old when this conversation comes up every time there is new blood who finds short term success. Not saying that Larson is a flash in the pan, but he has not been there nearly as long as the greats have. At least not long enough yet. Larson will get there, but let it happen before he becomes the next A.J. Foyt. Lets see where he is at in 20 years. 

 

I just enjoy watching these guys run each other as hard as they do, and I hope that continues for many more years to come.


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January 26, 2015 at 12:38:08 PM
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Posted By: Sprinter 79 on January 26 2015 at 10:52:34 AM

Without picking sides here, there is a HUGE difference between available equipment, caliber of teams, and payout at these shows when comparing what happened even 10 years ago agianst what is happening today. Larson is a really good driver, who in 20 years or so may prove to be the greatest. He has had the good fortune to team with some very successful enterprises outside of Sprint Car racing which has helped propel him to success. It is not like Ganasi has never won a 24 hour race. Not saying that is the reason, but you would be remis to think that it did not contribute. That also goes for the success level of most of the drivers that came before him and will for those who come after him.  

Sammy is a great driver in his own right, but to even try to compare his earnings with that of what is available to a kid coming up who lands in the right places is really silly. My bet is that Larson has already out earned Foyt at this stage in Foyt's career as well.  Again, not saying the Larson did not earn it, he most certainly did.

My point is that this is all good fun, but at the end of the day there are a lot of factors that are involved. Both Sammy and Kyle are great drivers, and I hope that Larson has a long career and finds much success, but it gets a little old when this conversation comes up every time there is new blood who finds short term success. Not saying that Larson is a flash in the pan, but he has not been there nearly as long as the greats have. At least not long enough yet. Larson will get there, but let it happen before he becomes the next A.J. Foyt. Lets see where he is at in 20 years. 

 

I just enjoy watching these guys run each other as hard as they do, and I hope that continues for many more years to come.



Agree for the most part unless your formula 1 champ you can always move up just like my profession there's always someone higher and in auto racing the chili bowl don't pay that much but look who alls there all in all sammus years at the top or near it are impressive let's wait 20 years to see were Larson is




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Posted By: gfnd2011 on January 26 2015 at 12:38:08 PM

Agree for the most part unless your formula 1 champ you can always move up just like my profession there's always someone higher and in auto racing the chili bowl don't pay that much but look who alls there all in all sammus years at the top or near it are impressive let's wait 20 years to see were Larson is



I agree for the most part.  Unless your a Formula 1 champ, you can always move up.  It's the same in other forms of auto racing as well as my profession; there's always someone that's better than you.  

The Chili Bowl doesn't pay much, but look at who shows up every year.  Sammy's years at the top, or near it, are impressive.  Let's wait 20 years to see where Larson is in comparison.



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Posted By: gfnd2011 on January 26 2015 at 12:36:41 AM

And I'm saying don't just say sammy say he's done more than kinser dale and petty and force same difference 



so you are saying larson has done more than petty, dale, and force? nice!

but back to sammy.

yep sammy has won more sprint car races. if larson won the next 5 daytona 500's a couple of indy car races another rolex and maybe a golden driller, sammy would still have more sprint car wins....so what is your point.

sammy has a bunch of sprint car wins. what else you got?


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Posted By: Sprinter 79 on January 26 2015 at 10:52:34 AM

Without picking sides here, there is a HUGE difference between available equipment, caliber of teams, and payout at these shows when comparing what happened even 10 years ago agianst what is happening today. Larson is a really good driver, who in 20 years or so may prove to be the greatest. He has had the good fortune to team with some very successful enterprises outside of Sprint Car racing which has helped propel him to success. It is not like Ganasi has never won a 24 hour race. Not saying that is the reason, but you would be remis to think that it did not contribute. That also goes for the success level of most of the drivers that came before him and will for those who come after him.  

Sammy is a great driver in his own right, but to even try to compare his earnings with that of what is available to a kid coming up who lands in the right places is really silly. My bet is that Larson has already out earned Foyt at this stage in Foyt's career as well.  Again, not saying the Larson did not earn it, he most certainly did.

My point is that this is all good fun, but at the end of the day there are a lot of factors that are involved. Both Sammy and Kyle are great drivers, and I hope that Larson has a long career and finds much success, but it gets a little old when this conversation comes up every time there is new blood who finds short term success. Not saying that Larson is a flash in the pan, but he has not been there nearly as long as the greats have. At least not long enough yet. Larson will get there, but let it happen before he becomes the next A.J. Foyt. Lets see where he is at in 20 years. 

 

I just enjoy watching these guys run each other as hard as they do, and I hope that continues for many more years to come.



yep all that great equipment is all you need. just ask danica.


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Posted By: buzz rightrear on January 26 2015 at 02:49:02 PM

yep all that great equipment is all you need. just ask danica.



There's the perfect point, she has made more money and got higher than sammy let see if anyone says she has accomplished more



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Posted By: gfnd2011 on January 26 2015 at 03:15:59 PM

There's the perfect point, she has made more money and got higher than sammy let see if anyone says she has accomplished more



the perfect point seems to be at the top of your head.


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