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When there is adequate safety in place drivers should stay out of the way. It's like general public running around an emergency scene. Fire fighters had to extinguish Gio. Their focus should have been on Macedo, not people entering in to the zone. I understand the drivers wanting to help. At some tacks perhaps the drivers are better dressed for this than the safety crews. I dunno. And I don't expect any driver to think, umm am I at a track with good fire crews or should I jump in and help. Nobody had time to reason, except the quality trained firefighters. 

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What a troll response. The Knoxville safety crew was there immediately and before othe cars in the area had even came to a stop. They had a challenging fire out within seconds. And in addition had to deal with drivers coming into the scene and dealing with their resulting fire issues as well. Top notch crew and top notch response. Will they look to improve by reviewing the incident. Absolutely. But your sideline criticism of their response and results is asinine. 

If the brake rotor punctured the bladder there could be more fuel to come. 

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Settle down there toots. Just because someone disagrees with you, it doesn't mean they are automatically wrong. You may have a difficult time accepting this, but you don't come off as being the smartest man on the internet, that's only your view. The insults and name calling suggest that even you can't support what you're trying to get accross, so you're trying to change the subject like a junior high girl. We can all watch the same video and have differing views. That's acceptable to most folks. 

ps. if you're going to go on an insult rage on the internet, at least try to read the guy's name right. It's ROD not ROB.

Rod and sprunk are correct. Glhadden is a dipsh!t. The fact macedo is racing this weekend is due to the actions of the knoxville and woo safety crews. 

Well I agree with you that the crash would've been much worse with a non-wing car.  But outside of the start there's no way that at anytime a non-wing car is faster than a winged one.  First off the speed that the winged car has in the corner is WAY more than a non winged car and that much more corner speed transfers into more straigtaway speed even even with the drag disadvantage.  But the other thing is how different the 2 cars are driven.  From the racing I've seen a winged sprint car is driven almost wide open around most tracks where a non-winged car seems like they're off the gas more than they're on the gas.  Many non-wing races I've seen them letting off at the flag stand.  But even though they're slower, they're not safer.

From what I've heard the brake rotor went through the tank which then dumped raw fuel on the brake rotor.  If the car had landed upside down it probably wouldn't have started on fire since the fuel wouldn't have leaked out there.

I guess it depends on your definition of almost immediately".  From watching it on Youtube there was about a minute between the safety crew getting there and not seeing any flames.  I guess I wouldn't call that almost immediately.  Also it's important to understand that when methanol burns it's nearly invisible but it's color is blue.  The reason I bring that up is the flames you were seeing were NOT the actual fuel burning.  The flames you saw were from something else burning being burned.  So even though you couldn't see flames that doesn't mean there wasn't a fire still happening.  When there is raw fuel spilling out or spilt and hot race cars around I would never say someone wasn't in danger.  Check out this video if you don't believe me.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmEsU-QYxNk

Macedo still not 100% but grtty performance to still be running upfront after a scary wreck.

When you say immediately, you have to remember this was not some burning oil on the engine block! There was a significantly large amount of fuel involved. So I agree with RobinCanada that with the degree of Fuel & Fire involved, It was about as Immediate as you can get... Great job to all involved....  That was probably the scariest fire incident that I have seen in quite a few years at Knoxville. One I remember being significantly worse and sorry If I get the name wrong was Aaron Berryhill in turn 3 & 4 either during the Nationals or an Outlaw show (I think it was an Outlaw show)... That was a very scary deal!!

Pure Methanol burns a clear to a blue. But anymore even though it's outlawed lots of people put in some sort of top lube into the fuel to mix in. Otherwise you will dry these motors and other parts out very quickly. It's also very commonly used in all Methanol racecars even the lower classes. We used the VP top lube for every 55 gallon drum. When you burned our fuel it had some blue flames some clear but also some orangish flames. The practice was outlawed by every known sanctioning body but it's still used. Many companies even mix it in straight from the truck now if you ask them to.