Forum: HoseHeads Sprint Car General Forum (go)
Moderators: dirtonly  /  dmantx  /  hosehead

I'm certainly not standing up for Robert Altman. He is what he is- someone who jyust likes to play games on the internet.  You're move Bob. 

     I'm saying that tracks need to keep the place up or the fans leave.  I can remember watching a race while holding my nose because of the smell of the bathrooms that were at the other end of the stands! I've been to race tracks where the stands weren't safe and tracks where the catchfence wasn't safe.  Those tracks are gone now. I think there's a correlation.

Back to original subject of Schuhart, finished 3rd from a 10th place start tonite at Lakeside, KS

I think he's gonna be a  contender next season....

At the Grove , Lincoln and other tracks many things need to be updated or improved , yes I will  mention a few but I also have no hard feelings toward any track . Well to answer your first comment , seating, restrooms , paint would help , guardrail , wiring , and more at both tracks should  be done .But everyone has there favorite tracks and the actual venue condition does not matter to most fans , only to see good racing .

Couldn't agree more on all of the above. Lincoln and Williams Grove have been great for a long time. Port and Susky have always been awesome as well but lacked the attention they deserve and they're now getting it from some good people who now run both tracks. Selinsgrove should be really good with the new clay. Hopefully they figure out a way to give the fans better sight lines because the infield obstructions really take away from the experience. Like you, I still go there and I still enjoy watching them haul ass into turn 1 but it would be cool to have a better view of the rest of the track. From what I understand, there's been some talk about shortening it. Don't know how I feel about that one. From a business perspective, I think they could only stand to benefit from it and if I were them, I would probably do it. Not only would it be easier on motors, but it would also provide the necessary space to get the pits out of the infield, or at least some of the trailers to improve the sightlines. On the other hand as a fan, watching the insane speeds is something I'll miss if they ever shorten it. Either way, the tracks we have here are awesome and I thank God every day that I was born in Central Pa. We aren't perfect, but we have it pretty damn good.

That's because the "other tracks" don't need to. The "other tracks" you speak of were well maintained over the years and given proper updates and amenities as needed. Port and Susky however, did not recieve the same attention. They were left in a state of constant decay to the point where they became shit holes. All they're doing now is fixing those things and bringing them up to par with the "other tracks". They deserve to be commended for their efforts but don't act like the "other tracks" are in the same state now that Port and Susky were in just a few short years ago and are in need of massive overhauls because they aren't. 

Agreed, but I think Port is now the nicest dirt track facility in central PA if not the whole state.

Regarding Selinsgrove, What I heard is they are going to build an outer pit area off turns 3-4 and move the turns in a little bit to accomdate. The inside rail now would be become the oustide so it would only shorten the track a little like to a true half-mile instead of the .54 or whatever it is now. That's just rumor though, not from anyone directly associated with the track. Personally, I hope it's true. The new clay should be a major improvement.

That is the same rumor I heard as well, but as of now, the only thing we know for certain is new clay is being put down now. Maybe Selinsgrove's PR person will be forthcoming with a little more information over the off season to keep the fans updated with any or future plans, i.e. Susquehanna over last off season. This would help getting the fans excited for the 2017 racing season.

Susky's facility has come a long way...primarily because it was diulapidated by any standards applicable to a modern venue - IMO susky's racing has always trumped what the facility has to offer...nowhere near enough pissers when the grandstands are even half full there.

Does every track in the country have a line at the pisser when the grandstands are full...PROBABLY

Have I walked to the car to piss on the ground at one time or another at nearly every track I have attended - ABSOLUTELY

Port Royal is clearly the front runner on the improvement on Posse Soil...did they draw a much larger crowd in the new 700 ft. froint stretch grand stands with the WoO this year? ABSOLUTELY

Are there even more exciting improvements coming to Port Royal for next year - CERTAINLY. - I am not at liberty to repeat what I was told...stay tuned.

I honestly don't care what the restrooms look or even smell like. I don't care if they've painted anything lately. I've sat on concrete at the track, Bulls Gap, and didn't care even given the fact that it was uncomfortable. Wiring? Are you shitting me?

Once again the responses  forget the topic of this thread , it's about Logan and his impressive  win at Port  not about me. But thank you for all your  comments .