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I know.  When you need every ounce of power you can get to pass someone, thinking its critical that you have the exact same engine as everyone else to succeed is also living in a dream world.

Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

I'd like to see more variety in sprint cars & engines too, maybe some kind of "run whatcha brung, total inversion" setup, but under present rules, if Fords were competitive, more guys would use them. They're not that dumb....

Well I guess this whole discussion is water under the bridge now....

http://www.woosprint.com/news/race-reports/451-2016-race-reports/3700-schatz-rebounds-for-victory-at-stockton

Schuchart from 13th to 6th... he's gradually getting better

Wonder what happened to Rico?

No more points to start or park it. Money isn't the issue. Track was super heavy and wouldn't really have been able to advance much in that stuff. It's also dangerous, most drivers used almost 40 tear offs and Saldana broke a finger. TSR team made the right decision to sit it out.

People should be very concerned that Schatz is on an early season roll after sweeping Stockton. Energy Pittman's comments seem to leave doubt that anyone can stay with Schatz. He may even improve on last year.

ssshhh....

They should call the new rule the Schatz rule, because I think they made it to try and stop him from winning so much. But it may come back to bite them. That team will find a way to use it to their advantage. Plus I believe it will come back to bite other teams like it did the 15 last week. Then the other teams that were crying won't be happy. Why even offer a provisional with no points. What would motivate you to use it. You cut off your nose to spite your face. (just my opinion)

This is comedic.

Schatz wins too much...gripe. 

Lays an egg and doesn't even make the feature...complain. 

Provisionals...bitch. 

Team chooses not to use a provisional...moan.

I know it's only March but I nominate this for post of the year. No way anyone is topping this one. Dead on the money.

Ok, Robert as a bad example for Vegas, how about a fans that drove from California to see Jonathan Allard race at Vegas (don't know if he was there, just using him as an example), and JA doesn't make the main.  The fans that came to watch him are disappointed, but he has ZERO CHANCE of getting a provisional as Vegas doesn't run sprint cars full-time there and he's not a full time WoO driver.

Again, IMO there should be no provisionals for anyone.  You either make the main or you don't.  I could care less about the point implications and how those are divied up.

I'll put it to you another way.  Let's say Tom Brady is hurt and the Patriots lose their first playoff game by 1 point.  Since Brady is now ok to play the following week, should the Patriots get a provisional to play in the next round of the Playoffs?  Nope.  The team lost the game and didn't advance, that's how life works sometimes.

I've seen plenty of other drivers and teams load it up when they had a provisional to use, and I've seen others use the provisional and pull in on lap #1.  I'd much rather see them load up than "make an appearance" in the lineup just so the WoO can say "so and so has made XXX consecutive A-main starts". 

Seem to remember people giving Andy Hillenburg props for saying the "non-starter provisional" that the WoO gave him at the Nationals one year didn't exist and his streak of consecutive starts ended that night. 

Vande-we both agree 100%-provisionals = stupid

But, schatz DID make the A-main-per the rules-and didnt race.  That was what we were debating.  Not whether or not provisionals should be allowed-they shouldn't.  But they are.  And he had one.

Please keep the Brady/Patriots idea to a dull roar-the NFL may try to adopt that for them!!!!    

My guess is track conditions had way more to do with it than anything else. Had it been a slick track where you could pass, I am sure he would have run. Tulare was super heavy that night and made passing difficult. He'd have had to race to 16th to make $100, so probably a wise decision not to race.

But he didn't make the race.  He could be "added to the race" and he chose not to be added.  Other drivers have done the same in years past, but they weren't the number 1 driver in the series.

Rico made the A-main at the Nationals last (maybe the year before already) season per the rules and people were up in arms about them changing drivers and collecting start $$.  People bit$$ed and moaned that he should have put in the trailer and let another car into the main.

Donny puts it in the trailer and all of a sudden it's his "duty" to go race in a race he didn't qualify for.

maybe I should have said Sam Bradford (he's always hurt, so adding them to the next round of the playoffs wouldn't matter, he'd still be on the injured list).

The bottom line is any driver has to do what is best for there team .....no matter who they are .

Here's one for all the people saying they pay to see Schatz. I pay to see Danny Dietrich & Stevie Smith on most nights, but if they can'trace their way in, there are no provisionals here in central PA. Is it the same in other parts of the country? Just wondering

THE VOICE OF REASON!!!

Schatz DID NOT make the race. That is why he was offered the OPTION of using a provisional to run the A. Drivers that DO MAKE the A are NOT offered provisionals! Using a provisional is optional since they only get a limited number and can not just use one every time they miss the A.