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August 21, 2015 at
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Some act like Brown, Lasoski, and McCarl HAVE to go to Huset's. Will they, most likely, but when you look at the NSL points, the Dude has a 746 point lead, plenty to skip just one race, and Brown is only in 6th in points. The only one who has something to lose at Huset's is McCarl, who also has a chance to get locked into the NSL Triple Crown Challenge with a win Sunday. You only have to run 75% of the NSL events to get point money, so missing one event, wouldn't take them out of the point fund.
And if we are looking at what event the drivers committed to first, I'm sure they all committed to the NSL tour before committing to the ASCS race, so commitment wise, NSL should trump ASCS. IMO
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August 21, 2015 at
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Posted By: mbmotorspt on August 21 2015 at 12:49:49 PM
Sometimes I hate to chime in here, but what the hell. I am going to use my MSPN appointed voice of reason. (For what that is worth.)
In business, life, racing, marriage, friendship etc. you are not going to please everyone all the time. Period.
Perspective is an interesting thing. Some see the glass half full. Some see the glass half empty. The choice is yours.
Am I disappointed that I don't get to race with one of the best drivers in the country at a half mile fairgrounds track (my favorites like the old Spencer, Sioux Empire, Jackson, Des Moines, Fairmont, Knoxville, Belleville, Huron, Rapid City - and on and on? Of course!
Am I happy that I don't have to make a five our drive to and from by myself (by choice) and be home in time to get my son Parker to shcool by 7 am Monday morning? Of course!
Are there things in life like schedules, and law changes and construction and DOT inspections and family and work that don't always go as planned that cause us to have to change our schedules? Of course!
As racers and fans we should be supportive of the sport! We are lucky there are two high quality races at two different venues in the Midwest this coming Sunday night. There is plenty of talent that will be at both races regardless as to which one you choose to go to.
And my advice is to NOT miss the show at Moberly. That place was BAD ASS FAST last year when we were there for the 360 show. I would LOVE to see the 410's there. They have done a great job with the track prep there and it should be a fascinating show!
Every racer out there is putting a ton of blood, sweat, tears and money into doing the best they can. For someone to discount their efforts and the sport as a whole as a result of a scheduling change or the actions of a few people is ridiculous. Get over it!
Go to the races, show your support and have a good time.
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Don’t go to the races, stay home and check the internet every millisecond for results and then get on Hoseheads and bitch about how bad the races were that you didn't attend, spend any money, bleed, sweat or cry over!
The choice is yours.
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Don’t go to the races, stay home and check the internet every millisecond for results and then get on Hoseheads and bitch about how bad the races were that you didn't attend, spend any money, bleed, sweat or cry over!
If I could afford to own and operate two road worthy vehicles on one income, replace my used up camera equipment, fund travel and motel for 50 races I'd still be writing and shooting for the Midwest Racing Connection and Flat Out. Not to mention missing seven grandkids growing up because I was traveling alone every weekend and suffering from aching knees and back and fighting the uphill battle of turning 64 next month. I don't care to spectate, my enjoyment came from being involved in the sport as a writer and photographer. Nevertheless, I'm one of those aweful people who only gets to a hanful of races and still feels connected enough to the sport to follow it online on a daily basis.
I'm kinda feeling like I just got dissed by a prominent car owner who's car I photographed and got published more than once. Thanks for nothing!!!
Stan Meissner
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August 21, 2015 at
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August 21, 2015 at
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Posted By: tjmatthews12 on August 21 2015 at 04:36:56 PM
Some act like Brown, Lasoski, and McCarl HAVE to go to Huset's. Will they, most likely, but when you look at the NSL points, the Dude has a 746 point lead, plenty to skip just one race, and Brown is only in 6th in points. The only one who has something to lose at Huset's is McCarl, who also has a chance to get locked into the NSL Triple Crown Challenge with a win Sunday. You only have to run 75% of the NSL events to get point money, so missing one event, wouldn't take them out of the point fund.
And if we are looking at what event the drivers committed to first, I'm sure they all committed to the NSL tour before committing to the ASCS race, so commitment wise, NSL should trump ASCS. IMO
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"You only have to run 75% of the NSL events to get point money"
True, but they lose 5% of their point fund money for every race they miss without and excused absence. Go to the NSL website and do some digging and you can find how the point fund works.
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August 21, 2015 at
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When did Sammy join the NSL?
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August 21, 2015 at
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Posted By: sprintfanatic on August 21 2015 at 05:19:24 PM
"You only have to run 75% of the NSL events to get point money"
True, but they lose 5% of their point fund money for every race they miss without and excused absence. Go to the NSL website and do some digging and you can find how the point fund works.
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I was just making the point that it isn't required buy the NSL to run the full schedule, they must have changed the point fund rules from the last I heard. The whole point of the NSL was to run that plus other races. Plus, at max a driver would lose $3,750, and for a chance at $12, 000..
Anyways, It's Todd's car and Todd's series....they'll make it an excused absence if it's agreed upon for the Dude to miss. 
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August 21, 2015 at
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Posted By: SprintFan16 on August 21 2015 at 01:25:55 PM
Good point there Mark, but what happens when the Sedalia promoters take a bath because people don't show knowing the key names aren't going to be there, and there isn't another race next year?
This could have been easily avoided. That's the major point here. I'd assume Sedalia picked a Sunday night to not schedule head to head with NSL or other tracks in the region. It's unfortunate they can't get the same respect back, and even more unfortunate it's three days before the event.
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So you are saying the ASCS National tour can not draw a crowd on it's own? They need to have some well known 410 names there in order to get a decent crowd? WOW, doesn't say much for the ASCS does it.
If there was no race scheduled against it would they need big name 410 guy's there next year too? And the year after that and on & on? If they are going to decide to keep having ASCS races there they better make their decisionon what crowd just the ASCS can draw on it's own!
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August 21, 2015 at
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Posted By: oswald on August 21 2015 at 07:04:15 PM
So you are saying the ASCS National tour can not draw a crowd on it's own? They need to have some well known 410 names there in order to get a decent crowd? WOW, doesn't say much for the ASCS does it.
If there was no race scheduled against it would they need big name 410 guy's there next year too? And the year after that and on & on? If they are going to decide to keep having ASCS races there they better make their decisionon what crowd just the ASCS can draw on it's own!
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"WOW, doesn't say much for the ASCS does it."
What it says starts out ShaNaNa, NaNaNa, ......
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August 21, 2015 at
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Posted By: oswald on August 21 2015 at 07:04:15 PM
So you are saying the ASCS National tour can not draw a crowd on it's own? They need to have some well known 410 names there in order to get a decent crowd? WOW, doesn't say much for the ASCS does it.
If there was no race scheduled against it would they need big name 410 guy's there next year too? And the year after that and on & on? If they are going to decide to keep having ASCS races there they better make their decisionon what crowd just the ASCS can draw on it's own!
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Pretty much exactly what I'm saying. Missouri isn't going to have a lot of brand recognition of the ASCS, and the ASCS doesn't have many drivers who have brand recognition with the casual fan. And there isn't better proof than the ad that was thrown together promoting the guys who have established names on a national basis.
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August 21, 2015 at
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what a bunch of f-ing whiners. If you want to blame somebody blame the clowns at spencer fair board, if they would have made an effort to prep a track this would not of happened. NSL had there cars in the area and why not add another race. Looks like a good buisness decision to me. ASCS should be just fine without a couple big names, and gives a lessor known driver a chance at a big win.
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August 21, 2015 at
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Come on people Tod is no dummy he did this on purpose!!! His EGO is to big. Wait you will see.
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August 21, 2015 at
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18 cars for the NSL show at Fairmont tonight, there won't be many more then that and I cannot imagine there will be a good crowd at Huset's Sunday. We can speculate on why this last minute Sunday night event was scheduled but making big money was not a reason for this.
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August 21, 2015 at
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Mark hit the nail on the head, case closed and move on and bitch about something else keyboard racers.
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August 21, 2015 at
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August 21, 2015 at
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if they were promoting Brown, Lasoski, McCarl then they should have had an NSL race.... It would have cost less than a 12,000 to win ASCS race anyways
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Posted By: johngr24 on August 21 2015 at 01:59:24 PM
This may be the 1st time I've EVER said this.... But I'm assuming you've been to races at Sedalia. How many times have you been there with ONE class? Like it or not, you have to realize this show has been set up to lose money since they announced it. Turning their backs on the Late Model guys which filled easily half the pits wasnt a smart move to begin with. I sure HOPE this isnt a "make or break" race for them, because just as much as racers, I'm sure they upset just as many % fans as well. I still hope to be there Sunday night, and I wont be suprised if none of their advertised guys show up. I'm sure the guys at Impact totally understand, lets not pit sponsors against guys as I've seen in this thread SMH.
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You hit the nail on the head. They would have drawn a LOT more fans, if they would have run late models and A-Mods along with the 360 sprints.
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Posted By: SprintFan16 on August 21 2015 at 07:57:55 PM
Pretty much exactly what I'm saying. Missouri isn't going to have a lot of brand recognition of the ASCS, and the ASCS doesn't have many drivers who have brand recognition with the casual fan. And there isn't better proof than the ad that was thrown together promoting the guys who have established names on a national basis.
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So what I am saying is if this race is a huge success so they decide to have more races next year and the big name 410 guy's can not race it next year then what happens? They should not base whether to have races next season based on a crowd inflated by national 410 names that many not ever be able to run that race again. If the fans will stay away because 4 big name 410 guy's now will not be there then those fans will stay away next year and any year it is just ASCS guys only.
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Posted By: newbeevur on August 21 2015 at 10:19:55 PM
18 cars for the NSL show at Fairmont tonight, there won't be many more then that and I cannot imagine there will be a good crowd at Huset's Sunday. We can speculate on why this last minute Sunday night event was scheduled but making big money was not a reason for this.
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I bet you $1000 there is more than 18 cars at husets on sunday.
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August 22, 2015 at
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Stan M. Thanks for making my point. No matter what someone says it does you are never going to please 100% of the people 100% of the time.
I'm shocked you think my post was even remotely directed at someone like you with your history, comittment and dedication to all forms of racing. You are always entitled to your opinion - and even if we don't agree from time to time, I'm ok with that. Trust me, if I was calling you out or directing something at you I would do it by name!
At least you have the dignity and fortitude to post under your name. That comment was reserved for the anonymous keyboard commandos who spew negativity that is so rudely damaging to the sport I love
Enough said on that.
Tuesday we ran with the WoO They had 19 cars and the format was great (imho) for the racers and fans alike. We got to get a lot of laps in HL, TT, HR, Qualifier, Dash and feature. Learned a lot and got to evaluate 3 different tyre combos.
Here's to everyones glasses being half full of your favorite beverage this weekend.
#FOTP
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McCarthy Auto Group, Kenny's Tile and RacinBoys add $1000 to winners share of tomorrow night's Lucas Oil ASCS A Main at State Fair Speedway in Sedalia, MO. The total is now $13,000 to win!!
RBN The RacinBoys Broadcasting Network
http://www.racinboys.com/
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August 23, 2015 at
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Brown is at State Fair Speedway
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August 23, 2015 at
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Justin Henderson to Sedalia as well.
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