Forum: HoseHeads Sprint Car General Forum (go)
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I do not recall asking you a damn thing. I do at least appreciate your effort in trying to answer a question. Your obviously a heck of a lot smarter than mspn. Which isn't saying much, a cow has more intelligence than him. Speaking of a cow, someone he manages to be the first LOOSER once again Haa!  2nd might mean something out on the road buddy, but in this neck of the woods it does not mean s@@t. For your info he does NOT have to go anywhere else besides right here to be Major league. Looking for an excuse because favorites aren't winning? Haha nice try I don't have to make any excuses, look at the last two races. Traction control and all and seriously he can't make the pass two nights in a row.....common.  As I said for his sake i hope he learned some things while he was here. The money is Staying right here in Pennsylvania where it belongs. The REAL sprint car capital of the world.

I know I shouldn't fan the flames here but! How can you even be remotely serious when just Donny Schatz alone has over TWICE as many WoO Wins (19) than the best all time "Posse" Feature Winner Fast Freddy Rahmer whom has a total of (9). Then you look at Kinser who is pretty much the same age as Rahmer and he has  over 4 times as many WoO Wins (38) at Williams Grove!!! I am taking NOTHING from the Posse because they are an Awesome Bad Talent! But what you are spewing out your mouth! I hope your place of Employment does not do Random UA testing because you are definately smoking something besides Ciggys.  

I'm pretty convinced wendal and cubes might be the same person. 

I really do appreciate the fact that you responded. It cleared a couple things up for me. I now know that you are indeed an idiot...AND you don't know a thing about sprint car racing! Instead of adding anything concrete, you throw darts, and hang your hat on a couple wins. I'm glad the PA Posse drivers are smarter than you! And, now you claim to be the Sprint Car Capitol of the World? You're laughable! I'm done, you have nothing to add that amounts to anything. I won't force you into a pissing contest, because you would probably piss into the wind.

This is the last time I'll respond to any of the brainless bullshit that you post but before I'm done, I have one last point to make. So you call central Pa the major leagues? If it were the major leagues, why did Bobby Allen decide to go out on the road when Logan was winning races right here in central Pa then? It's pretty funny how the 1s was a frequent visitor to victory lane yet hasn't won a damn thing since going on the road. Remember when Lucas Wolfe and the 5w team went out on the road? How did that work out? Now I'm not bashing either of them because Lucas in my opinion ran solid despite the limited resources they had and I think Jacob and Logan are doing pretty good with what they have to work with as well. So even though you're too fucking stupid to get it and I'm sure your 13 year old mind will disagree, I just shot down your theory. Oh and by the way, where is the Hall of Fame located? Since you probably legitimately don't know due to your monumental ignorance, I'll tell you. It's in Knoxville, Iowa. The same place where sprint car racing's biggest event, the Knoxville Nationals (since you probably didn't know that either) is held every year. So now I'm done responding to your nonsense and I really hope everyone else is too. That way you can just talk to yourself which is something I'm sure you're used to doing.

You guys insulting each other is not what this forum is supposed to be about. People want to discuss SPRINT CAR RACING.

Please trash each other in personal messages & spare us all your embarassing BS

Wendal and Cubes are NOT the same person, trust me.  I had some nice email exchanges with Cubic many years back and he's a very sharp guy when it comes to racing, he's been in the game, might still be.  Wendal is a short bussed blow hard who acts tough in this forum only, wouldn't say poop if he had a mouth full in the real world likely, I just wish I was still on the road and hitting PA 8 - 10 races a year.  There were a few others back in the day and not a single one ever showed up in real life, sadly, lol....

Lol, I could care less who Cubes and Wendal really are. They represent the sore winner/loser mentality of Central PA quite well.

First let me say that I agree, there are great racers and great racing all across the US, particularly in the mid-west, Calif, Pa and Ohio. Your comment about Pa being lesser than the other areas got me thinking though, and since I'm retired and have plenty of time, I thought I'd go to the WoO web site and research the WoO race results from the past 3 years...2013, 2014, and to date this year. Interesting what I found.

In Calif, there were 30 WoO races, 22 were won by WoO drivers, 8 by non-WoO with those 8 races being won by 4 different drivers (Abreu, Larson, Keading and Gobolic(sp?).

I only looked at Knoxville for the mid-west so this does not provide a total picture of the region. There were 9 races, 7 won by WoO drivers and 2 won by non-WoO. 1 each by Brown and Lasoski.

In Ohio, there were 18 WoO races of which 16 were won by WoO drivers. The 2 non-WoO wins were both by Dale Blaney.

In Posse land (Only Williams Grove, Lincoln, and Port Royal), there were 17 races. 7 were won by WoO drivers (4 by Shatz and 3 by Pittman). 10 were won by non-WoO drivers and here is what I find interesting. Those 10 races were won by 7 different drivers..Dietrich, Ryan Smith, Stevie Smith, Hodnett, DeWease, Kreitz ( I didn't take the time to look at breakdown of podium, top 5, etc, but I do know that Posse finished 8 out of top 9 in this one), and Rahmer. 

I have some personal thoughts after looking at these stats about how the Posse stacks up to other areas of the country , but will keep them to myself and let the readers draw their own conclusions about how bad the porch dwellers are. I recognize that personal bias (both ways) will always enter into the picture. Have a nice day all... 

Your Cali number's seem to be a bit off.  I remember Macedo and Allard both winning Outlaw races last year.  In fact I think the Allard win was where he passed Pittman on the last lap.

I'm not going to look up the locations, but I don't belive in the past 3 years that any of the Posse drivers have won WoO events anywhere but in PA....while other drivers from other parts of the country HAVE won WoO events outside of their normal racing areas....that too speaks of how the Posse drivers stack up against other drivers from around the country. Plain and simple, if the Posse wants national recognition, they need to venture away from the porch.

Be proud that you are a Posse fan.....those of us from around the country know that there are jerks everywhere, and that they don't represent the vast majority of the fan base in your area or anywhere else. We have jerks here in the Midwest also. 

Could have missed a couple...I was surprised  there were that many WoO races in Calif.

Right on.

How come nobody thought Steve Kinser was cheating Back in the Day?

Because they thought Karl was! lol Steve didn't have enough mechanical ablity to cheat. Again....lol, but true!

I can't disagree. I am proud to be from central Pa and I'm proud of the talent we have here now and the rich history and tradition our area has always had for producing talented drivers, crew chiefs, manufacturers, members and the media etc. We have it good here. In fact we have it better than most. I know there are a lot of people posting on this board who wish that they got to see the type of talent, the amount of racing and the quality tracks that we all too often take for granted. I've met hundreds upon hundreds of people at central Pa race tracks and some of them have even become close friends. 99.9% of those people were also really nice people that would give anyone the shirt off their backs and had respect and appreciation for all the teams regardless of where they call home. I'm not gonna let a few assholes who have way too much time on their hands and not nearly enough functioning brain cells to use it wisely, ruin it for me. I supposed there's assholes no matter where you go.

Right on. There's little mspn's everywhere. Whenever they get cranky just give them a little toy camera to play with, that will keep them entertained for a little while.

Wiz, confused by your latest rant, not sure where you get your info or are you just starting to make up things like your buddy BRR?  Had you pegged as a little smarter than that, my bad.  Wendal, been retired for almost 10 years now, were you looked up or something to not have that figured out?  The camera equipment was worth more than your car, guaranteed, lol.....