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Topic: Will Stewart All Stars finally be able to win at the Grove after 47 years?
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April 22, 2015 at
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I'll put a hundy on the posse against so called All Stars @ every track in PA. Takers?
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April 22, 2015 at
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Posted By: oswald on April 22 2015 at 09:21:40 PM
And you claim it is the softer tire that is running owners out of the sport. Then thank the Grove management for the small car counts rather than bitching about it here! Again, I would rather have a healthy weekly show like Knoxville than watch a small field of cars every week just so they can win at home vs the outlaws.
How many tires could Stevie's team buy with all that money he was "going to win"? I bet " was going to win" money does not buy much!
You quote Dewease as saying something needed done about the tires but your own tracks ignore that and let the WoO write their rule book for them. The promoters in Pa must not be smart enough to know the WoO rules are written for big money teams that race coast to coast for $10000 to win not guys that race for $3600 to win and $350 to finish last in the A.
Best solution is for you to go watch those unlimited late model taxi cabs that have perfect rules. Amazing that the taxi cab message boards have so many people complaining about the state of late model racing. Maybe they just are not as smart as you and can't see all the passing & great racing that you do.
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April 23, 2015 at
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The last time Daryn Pittman won less than 5 races it was the 27 car In PA. Happened a few times. Hodnett seems alright in it? Pittman's an elite talent, but he wins a hell of a lot more Woo races than he did in 4 years here. MSPN only shows his true colors when he calls the places "dumps". A lot of people wish they had dumps as nice as Lincoln/Port/Williams grove. It's pretty obvious your feelings got hurt at some point, maybe you took an ass kicking in the parking lot? A lot easier to run your mouth on the Internet though, so you do.
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April 23, 2015 at
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Posted By: minthess on April 13 2015 at 04:46:12 PM
Thanks Cubic. Most interesting thing on here in years. Nothing made in China in sight.
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You have a great eye for the obvious, In case you missed it this picture is from 1970, thats 45 years ago and you guys cant believe the wings and tires have changed? Welcome to 2015 we now have a global economy and we trade goods with other countries, sometimes we trade with China, yes China and guess what they have figured out how to produce an elite level Sprintcar chassis at half the price. Competition, its the American way........ as long as were not competing with the chinese, LOL.
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April 23, 2015 at
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April 23, 2015 at
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Posted By: StaggerLee on April 23 2015 at 02:49:17 PM
You have a great eye for the obvious, In case you missed it this picture is from 1970, thats 45 years ago and you guys cant believe the wings and tires have changed? Welcome to 2015 we now have a global economy and we trade goods with other countries, sometimes we trade with China, yes China and guess what they have figured out how to produce an elite level Sprintcar chassis at half the price. Competition, its the American way........ as long as were not competing with the chinese, LOL.
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Who really wants to compete with them? Most people like being able to breathe half decent air, drink half decent water and be able to see more than a few hundred yards. Most people also don't want to have to live where they work and need suicide nets to keep them from jumping off the roof. Not being governed by non-elected communist party officials is also nice. Maybe some of the China lovers on here should go live there if they love it so much. There are plenty of jobs for Americans who want to go there and help them steal us blind... http://m.ranker.com/list/the-craziest-chinese-counterfeit-goods/robert-wabash?var=2&utm_expid=16418821-105.3aBKWeX_StaKFJdVh6W5FA.1&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
ChromeMolly Spint Car Chassis...http://www.ycmco.com
They don't even know how to spell sprint car
much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com
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April 23, 2015 at
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So you do not own anything at all that was made in China? Nothing? Right, I'm sure. Better check the tags on everything you own.
Then also go tell all those posse teams that are using xxx chassis to go race in China if they want to use China built cars!!! You will brag about a posse driver beating the outlaws at the grove but won't mention he used a China built chrome molley car to do it.
What a two faced jerk!!
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April 23, 2015 at
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Posted By: LatshPA on April 23 2015 at 01:38:29 PM
The last time Daryn Pittman won less than 5 races it was the 27 car In PA. Happened a few times. Hodnett seems alright in it? Pittman's an elite talent, but he wins a hell of a lot more Woo races than he did in 4 years here. MSPN only shows his true colors when he calls the places "dumps". A lot of people wish they had dumps as nice as Lincoln/Port/Williams grove. It's pretty obvious your feelings got hurt at some point, maybe you took an ass kicking in the parking lot? A lot easier to run your mouth on the Internet though, so you do.
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You think maybe equipment had more to do with that than competition? Or maybe number of total races?
Hell, Pittman won three races in 10 attempts in the fabled land last year, so he's obviously got the talent to win there a lot.
Terrible attempt at proving a point with misleading stats. It wouldn't be hard to win more when you're running more races in what's easily one of the top two funded/maintained rides in America.
And FWIW, I have no issue with PA tracks at all and would never refer to them as dumps.
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April 24, 2015 at
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Posted By: oswald on April 23 2015 at 11:12:46 PM
So you do not own anything at all that was made in China? Nothing? Right, I'm sure. Better check the tags on everything you own.
Then also go tell all those posse teams that are using xxx chassis to go race in China if they want to use China built cars!!! You will brag about a posse driver beating the outlaws at the grove but won't mention he used a China built chrome molley car to do it.
What a two faced jerk!!
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Chromemolly is weak. That's why most race cars are built with chromoly instead. That's also why they have to call them spint cars in china instead of sprint cars. To skirt counterfeit laws. The Posse is good enough they can beat the Outlaws in anything. That's why they are given free cars In the first place. http://www.ycmco.com
They don't even know how to spell sprint car
much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com
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April 24, 2015 at
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Way to change the subject to living conditions in China, So when your wrong u just avoid the truth and change the subject, that's what 8 year Olds do I guess, nice try though.
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Posted By: cubicdollars on April 24 2015 at 04:48:04 AM
Chromemolly is weak. That's why most race cars are built with chromoly instead. That's also why they have to call them spint cars in china instead of sprint cars. To skirt counterfeit laws. The Posse is good enough they can beat the Outlaws in anything. That's why they are given free cars In the first place. http://www.ycmco.com
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So why doesn't Maxim or some other American chassis maker give them free chassis? Be great advertising for them to have a local whip the outlaws in their chassis. Thats why you give teams free cars. Or maybe the posse is just a bunch of China lovers so from all the free chassis offered to them they chose xxx.
I believe the top 3 in a recent grove A main were all using china xxx chassis. And still you love these posse guys who stab American workers in the back by using china built cars. WOW!
If you even go to the races, go to the pit area and tell every team using a xxx chassis your anti china views.
You ever buy a t shirt from a driver that uses a xxx chassis? Bet you have.
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April 25, 2015 at
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Wonder what percentage of people who voted "yes" also voted for Obama twice? Seems like there would be a pretty high crossover of people who go through life so overwhelmingly wrong on every topic.
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You look through this thread and I wasn't the one who brought up chinese racecars as usual. I just end up defending America as usual. Which doesn't mean much because a vast majority dirt track fans love America. Many don't know about the cars. And those that do are saddened by developments, but realize chinese "spint cars" exist because they cost $300 to build. And out of all the grassroots racing classes across the country, sprint cars somehow got lucky and had one scumbag businessman that was willing to take advantage of it.
The jackasses on here that come out of the woodwork every time picking fights are already addicted to the deal, or are defending someone who is. I realize they feel guilty and need to get it off their chest but the xxx flamers need to take a lesson from their gay brethren and don't ask, don't tell. The best thing they can really do is just keep their mouths shut. There is a reason one of the most repeated quotes in history is "God, Family, Country".
They don't even know how to spell sprint car
much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com
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April 25, 2015 at
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What an All Star spankfest. Stewart's name alone isn't going to turn around things around quick. It looks like he better start giving the top five in points Rider engines instead of point money. Paulus' suspicious pre-weight rule track record almost fell with the new sticky Hoosier tires that are going to bankrupt everyone once and for good. High points for the All Stars were Holtgraver has been running a lot of big shows at the Grove the past couple of years and it showed, and Dale Blaney ended up on the podium.
They don't even know how to spell sprint car
much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com
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Hey Pubicdollars Chinese junk 6 out of the top 10 last night, I wonder where the POSSE would have finished without those lousy weak chinese chassis'.
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Posted By: StaggerLee on April 25 2015 at 08:41:18 AM
Hey Pubicdollars Chinese junk 6 out of the top 10 last night, I wonder where the POSSE would have finished without those lousy weak chinese chassis'.
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The Posse races more than anyone else in the country and has to deal with the inversion. They are going to be faster than anyone else no matter what shit boxes they are given for free. That's exactly why XXX sponsors the Posse. So they can actually get a few Outlaw wins each year. Current XXX outlaw record is 0-17 as usual. It wouldn't matter what chassis the Posse runs. If Mark Smith could build cars for $300 instead of $2000, and afford to give everyone free Mach 1s they would be winning all the races. You're delusional with outsourced lust if you think otherwise.
They don't even know how to spell sprint car
much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com
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April 25, 2015 at
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I thought most of the All Stars were very respectable ,considering that Parker Price and Travis Phillo had never been to the track before they ran not to far behind feature winners Alan Krimes and Westhafer.
Wilson most likely would have made the show had he not scratched from the B.
Holtgraver led 15 laps and Blaney challenged for the win.
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April 25, 2015 at
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LOL aww little cubic is upset, Mark smith can give away as many chassis as he wants, if they dont win they will become scrap metal and that goes for any chassis builder. You just cant admit that XXX is taking over. Ryan Smith was pretty much an also ran before he CHOSE to get a XXX and his results have put him on the national map since then. Hodnett also CHOSE a XXX after watching Fred Rahmer have an incredible season in one ( and BTW he beat the Outlaws at the national open in his XXX so i guess its 1-16 vs the outlaws) and then Derek Sell hopped in and won his first 410 feature at Lincoln and then Stevie Smith became the fastest car in Pa in the same XXX. Hodnett was doing OK in his Maxim but once he switched to XXX he became faster and more consistant and is now the biggest threat we have in Pa again. The results dont lie, your beloved Posse has gotten stronger over the past 2 years and XXX is a a major factor as to why. XXX could start charging the same amount as everyone else and these guys would still buy them because they are bad fast and easy to work with. The fact that they are half the cost as everyone else is just a bonus. I'll admit I thought Rahmer was nuts when he was running a XXX in his final season with Sell as the owner, but he made a believer out of me as he tore up Posse land. Cubic you need to go buy yourself a XXX t-shirt and get over yourself. Btw, what the hell does the amount of races and the "inversion" have to do with the Posse using xXx? Your running out of excuses for your hate, its so much easier to open your heart and love LOL
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LOL aww little cubic is upset, Mark smith can give away as many chassis as he wants, if they dont win they will become scrap metal and that goes for any chassis builder. You just cant admit that XXX is taking over. Ryan Smith was pretty much an also ran before he CHOSE to get a XXX and his results have put him on the national map since then. Hodnett also CHOSE a XXX after watching Fred Rahmer have an incredible season in one ( and BTW he beat the Outlaws at the national open in his XXX so i guess its 1-16 vs the outlaws) and then Derek Sell hopped in and won his first 410 feature at Lincoln and then Stevie Smith became the fastest car in Pa in the same XXX. Hodnett was doing OK in his Maxim but once he switched to XXX he became faster and more consistant and is now the biggest threat we have in Pa again. The results dont lie, your beloved Posse has gotten stronger over the past 2 years and XXX is a a major factor as to why. XXX could start charging the same amount as everyone else and these guys would still buy them because they are bad fast and easy to work with. The fact that they are half the cost as everyone else is just a bonus. I'll admit I thought Rahmer was nuts when he was running a XXX in his final season with Sell as the owner, but he made a believer out of me as he tore up Posse land. Cubic you need to go buy yourself a XXX t-shirt and get over yourself. Btw, what the hell does the amount of races and the "inversion" have to do with the Posse using xXx? Your running out of excuses for your hate, its so much easier to open your heart and love LOL
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Rahmer has been winning his whole career. He came on strong again after they switched back to Hoosier tires. Ryan Smith got fast when everyone does, after about 2 years. Hodnett, Stevie Smith and Montieth are going to win no matter what shit box you give them. They are gassers. That's why xxx sponsors them. Xxx is cheap, that is the only thing they have going for them. That is why they have to give them away. You are COMPLETELY delusional if you think people are going to pay full price for one. 0-18 with the Outlaws this year. You're right though, Kraig Kinser really got moving once he switched to xxx. Must have been a fluke.
They don't even know how to spell sprint car
much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com
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Rahmer has been winning his whole career. He came on strong again after they switched back to Hoosier tires. Ryan Smith got fast when everyone does, after about 2 years. Hodnett, Stevie Smith and Montieth are going to win no matter what shit box you give them. They are gassers. That's why xxx sponsors them. Xxx is cheap, that is the only thing they have going for them. That is why they have to give them away. You are COMPLETELY delusional if you think people are going to pay full price for one. 0-18 with the Outlaws this year. You're right though, Kraig Kinser really got moving once he switched to xxx. Must have been a fluke.
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keep lying to yourself cubic, Hodnett and Smith both were both quoted giving props to the XXX for making them faster and easier to tune, why is it so hard for you to accept? So 2 years is when every driver suddenly gets better and wins an Outlaw race and gains national recognition? Rahmer couldnt win in the GF1 with CJB same with Stevie Smith, put them in a XXX and suddenly ta da they win. you cant deal with the facts so there is no use beating a dead horse, have fun in fantasy land where you can make up your own reality and ignore the facts right in front of your eyes.
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keep lying to yourself cubic, Hodnett and Smith both were both quoted giving props to the XXX for making them faster and easier to tune, why is it so hard for you to accept? So 2 years is when every driver suddenly gets better and wins an Outlaw race and gains national recognition? Rahmer couldnt win in the GF1 with CJB same with Stevie Smith, put them in a XXX and suddenly ta da they win. you cant deal with the facts so there is no use beating a dead horse, have fun in fantasy land where you can make up your own reality and ignore the facts right in front of your eyes.
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People are always going to schmooze sponsors. The fact is switching from Goodyear tires back to Hoosiers is where guys like Rahmer and Kreitz found speed. Kreitz didn't switch chassis. It had nothing to do with free chassis. Keep dreaming that someone is ever going to pay full price for one.
They don't even know how to spell sprint car
much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com
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