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longdong
January 09, 2013 at 05:40:19 PM
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Those tweets are just hacked/spam nonsense. Except the first one...



SLINK51
January 09, 2013 at 06:32:15 PM
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This message was edited on January 09, 2013 at 06:33:51 PM by SLINK51
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Posted By: Schwien76j on January 09 2013 at 05:08:40 PM
Havent found any other classified sites that he is posting on except PASS sprints website. Did find some other interesting links to give a little more insight into our fuzzy little friend leon. Here is his youtube page http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgZwHpuGRRyjuda16J0H97Q And here is a link to his twitter (this really sheds light on what he is up to and "does" for a living) http://twitter.com/800horspower


I hope you don't mind, but I copied and pasted this and your first post on Williams Grove's message board's Classifieds in case his adds show up there. The more that know the better.

Schwien76j
January 10, 2013 at 06:08:10 AM
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Posted By: SLINK51 on January 09 2013 at 06:32:15 PM
I hope you don't mind, but I copied and pasted this and your first post on Williams Grove's message board's Classifieds in case his adds show up there. The more that know the better.


Don't mind at all! Exactly, the more that know the better! He has been ousted for being a crook before and weezled his way back in under the radar. Hopefully this is the last time!


sprint 39
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January 10, 2013 at 07:04:30 AM
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Posted By: Schwien76j on January 10 2013 at 06:08:10 AM
Don't mind at all! Exactly, the more that know the better! He has been ousted for being a crook before and weezled his way back in under the radar. Hopefully this is the last time!


He's back . the scumbag pulled this crap back in 2010 in Indiana .

Schwien76j
January 10, 2013 at 12:22:36 PM
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Posted By: sprint 39 on January 10 2013 at 07:04:30 AM
He's back . the scumbag pulled this crap back in 2010 in Indiana .


Man, this guy is a real piece of SH*T. I am sorry to report that Leon has been quite for a few days but now is calling my friend Walt and spouting physical threats. Walt said he actually had to hang up on him and not answer anymore. Here is what ive done. I've been in contact with several athorities in CA and elsewhere who monitor internet scams and fraud. Ive also done alot a research and here is what ive found out about Mr. Haupt. Mr. Haupt is not a US citizen. But, in fact is a native of South Africa. He has been living in the United States under what must be some sort of visa. According to people who have delt with him in the past Leon likes to brag about how easy it is to make money off of people here in the US. And comments how stupid the fines folks in the racing community are for friviously throwing their money away on "fun things". All the while remarking that in south africa no one would dare do such a mindless thing. THIS F*CKER HAS GOT TO GO DOWN!!! Who would i need to get into contact with that would oversee immigration/visas in the state of CA? Walt has documentation of the threats and along with the orher crimes we aught to be able to get him heading in the direction of a slow boat to africa right?? Its not a matter of the money now. Protecting other hard working racers from this crook is the main focus! And just for your information walt asked me to thank everyone for the posts and suggestions. He also said that any money recieved either voluntarily or legally will be donated to St. Jude's childrens hospital in the name of the Hoseheads.com Racing Family.

BigRightRear
January 10, 2013 at 12:26:38 PM
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contact your state attorney general.

not sure if it is legal to record phone calls in the states involved, but you can check that out too.

steer away from contacting the clowns in washington dc...as he is probably obama's second cousin with a lifetime immunity.


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opnwhlr
January 10, 2013 at 01:19:54 PM
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" Who would i need to get into contact with that would oversee immigration/visas in the state of CA? "

Sorry, but you just ran out of luck! I live in Cali and Cali WELCOMES all illegals and will even give them welfare, medical and schooling. Frown


 
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rrounds
January 10, 2013 at 02:25:22 PM
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You need to contact INS Give them a call and see if they can point you in the right direction 1-800-375-5283

henry chinaski
January 10, 2013 at 03:56:24 PM
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Just an FYI about recording phone calls: in California it is illegal to record any form of audio without the consent of both parties. It's actually a major no no. As for the immigration I bet they would look into him because he isn't from Mexico. If he was from Mexico they would turn a blind eye.
Cheers!


SLINK51
January 10, 2013 at 04:16:06 PM
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Posted By: henry chinaski on January 10 2013 at 03:56:24 PM
Just an FYI about recording phone calls: in California it is illegal to record any form of audio without the consent of both parties. It's actually a major no no. As for the immigration I bet they would look into him because he isn't from Mexico. If he was from Mexico they would turn a blind eye.


What if Walt lives in a State where it isn't illegal to record phone calls.If Walt Lived in Cali don't you think he would've drove to where this guy is to collect either the part he ordered or his money? What if these threats were on an answering machine? The Prick would obviously know he was being recorded then right?

opnwhlr
January 10, 2013 at 04:20:06 PM
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I doubt, even if messages are left on an answering machine, you could get anywhere with any police agency...unless he actually threated physical violence. That is very low priority to them.


 
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henry chinaski
January 10, 2013 at 04:26:59 PM
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Posted By: SLINK51 on January 10 2013 at 04:16:06 PM
What if Walt lives in a State where it isn't illegal to record phone calls.If Walt Lived in Cali don't you think he would've drove to where this guy is to collect either the part he ordered or his money? What if these threats were on an answering machine? The Prick would obviously know he was being recorded then right?


An answering machine is different because the party being recorded knows that they're being recorded. As for recording a regular phone conversation it is still illegal to record a resident of the state of California without their consent no matter what state the other party is in. There is well documented legal precedent on this matter. I don't necessarily agree with the law but it is the law just the same.
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SLINK51
January 10, 2013 at 04:51:32 PM
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This message was edited on January 10, 2013 at 04:54:42 PM by SLINK51

Here is what i found on One person and two person concent laws. In State and Out of State parties.

Recording Phone Calls and Conversations

If you plan to record telephone calls or in-person conversations (including by recording video that captures sound), you should be aware that there are federal and state wiretapping laws that may limit your ability to do so. These laws not only expose you to the risk of criminal prosecution, but also potentially give an injured party a civil claim for money damagesagainst you.

From a legal standpoint, the most important question in the recording context is whether you must get consent from one or all of the parties to a phone call or conversation before recording it. Federal law and many state wiretapping statutes permit recording if one party (including you) to the phone call or conversation consents. Other states require that all parties to the communication consent.

Unfortunately, it is not always easy to tell which law applies to a communication, especially a phone call. For example, if you and the person you are recording are in different states, then it is difficult to say in advance whether federal or state law applies, and if state law applies which of the two (or more) relevant state laws will control the situation. Therefore, if you record a phone call with participants in more than one state, it is best to play it safe and get the consent of all parties. However, when you and the person you are recording are both located in the same state, then you can rely with greater certainty on the law of that state. In some states, this will mean that you can record with the consent of one party to the communication. In others, you will still need to get everyone's consent. For details on the wiretapping laws in the fifteen most populous U.S. states and the District of Columbia, see the State Law: Recordingsection. In any event, it never hurts to play it safe and get the consent of all parties to a phone call or conversation that you intend to record.

Who must give permission to record a telephone or in-person conversation?

Federal law permits recording telephone calls and in-person conversations with the consent of at least one of the parties. See 18 U.S.C. 2511(2)(d). This is called a "one-party consent" law. Under a one-party consent law, you can record a phone call or conversation so long as you are a party to the conversation. Furthermore, if you are not a party to the conversation, a "one-party consent" law will allow you to record the conversation or phone call so long as your source consents and has full knowledge that the communication will be recorded.

In addition to federal law, thirty-eight states and the District of Columbia have adopted "one-party consent" laws and permit individuals to record phone calls and conversations to which they are a party or when one party to the communication consents. See the State Law: Recording section of this legal guide for information on state wiretapping laws.

When must you get permission from everyone involved before recording?

Twelve states require the consent of every party to a phone call or conversation in order to make the recording lawful. These "two-party consent" laws have been adopted in California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington (Hawai'i is also in general a one-party state, but requires two-party consent if the recording device is installed in a private place). Although they are referred to as "two-party consent" laws, consent must be obtained from every party to a phone call or conversation if it involves more than two people. In some of these states, it might be enough if all parties to the call or conversation know that you are recording and proceed with the communication anyway, even if they do not voice explicit consent. See the State Law: Recording section of this legal guide for information on specific states' wiretapping laws.

Can you record a phone call or conversation when you do not have consent from one of the parties?

Regardless of whether state or federal law governs the situation, it is almost always illegal to record a phone call or private conversation to which you are not a party, do not have consent from at least one party, and could not naturally overhear. In addition, federal and many state laws do not permit you to surreptitiously place a bug or recording device on a person or telephone, in a home, office or restaurant to secretly record a conversation between two people who have not consented.

Federal law and most state statutes also make disclosing the contents of an illegally intercepted telephone call illegal. See the section on Risks Associated with Publication in this guide for more information.

What if you are recording the activities of the police or other government officials in public?

Special considerations apply when recording police officers or other public officials. You may have a constitutional right to openly record the activities of police and other officials in public, so long as you do not interfere with those activities or violate generally applicable laws. For more information, see the section on Recording Police Officers and Public Officials.



gentleman
January 10, 2013 at 04:58:20 PM
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Posted By: Schwien76j on January 08 2013 at 08:45:25 AM
I am posting this thread for a very good friend of mine who was swindled by Leon Haupt from Placentia, CA. My friend (Walt) is an older gentleman who isn't very computer literate and has asked me to let others know BUYER BEWARE! My friend sent Leon $1400 for a fuel injection system about 5 months ago that he never received. Leon now will not answer or return any of his calls, but for some reason still has the time to post more fuel injection parts on this sites classifieds page. Here is the link to one of his ads. http://www.hoseheadsclassifieds.com/ClassifiedDetail.cfm?ClassifiedKey=84566. I have had excellent luck with the classifieds and for the most part racers are a very good and trustworthy bunch. But, its crooks like Mr. Haupt that taint that good reputation.


Been buying parts for a long time on the internet. Only twice have I been shortchanged. First time,an racer in the State of Iowa cash my check,and sent no parts...Since I shop a lot in those days, I had a lot of contacts that knew me to be a good buyer. From the area,even though I am half the country away. My other contacts provided me with the guys place of employment, his sponsor,and his father's cell phone # and his place of employment. I got my $$$ back,and I'll bet there were repercussions in other areas for the guy.... Plus.....I know what he looks like,and where he lived. And,I go to the races a lot,even if only to walk in and look.around. Sometimes,people need to know that they cannot hide in our small community......."Gentleman"



dspitz
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January 10, 2013 at 05:20:40 PM
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Is there something in the water out there. I had a similier problem, much less money, with a Eric Rossi of Los Bantos, CA. Still have not recieved any money back or ever recieved the merchandise I ordered.


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gentleman
January 10, 2013 at 07:01:01 PM
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Is there something in the water out there. I had a similier problem, much less money, with a Eric Rossi of Los Bantos, CA. Still have not recieved any money back or ever recieved the merchandise I ordered.



Where is Los Bantos??? We have "friends" all ove California........



cdr racing
January 10, 2013 at 07:46:36 PM
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Posted By: henry chinaski on January 10 2013 at 04:26:59 PM
An answering machine is different because the party being recorded knows that they're being recorded. As for recording a regular phone conversation it is still illegal to record a resident of the state of California without their consent no matter what state the other party is in. There is well documented legal precedent on this matter. I don't necessarily agree with the law but it is the law just the same.


Actually, according to the District Attorneys office here in Riverside, it's perfectly legal to record someone without their knowledge if trying to gain information about a felony. Had a recorder on my home phone for a while several years ago.

opnwhlr
January 10, 2013 at 09:40:06 PM
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Gentleman...I think he might be referring to Los Banos on Hwy 152 east of Gilroy which is the last place I knew Rossi to be living but that was ten years ago!


 
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Schwien76j
January 14, 2013 at 06:46:46 PM
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Posted By: opnwhlr on January 10 2013 at 09:40:06 PM

Gentleman...I think he might be referring to Los Banos on Hwy 152 east of Gilroy which is the last place I knew Rossi to be living but that was ten years ago!



TTT!!

rubber down
January 17, 2013 at 09:06:50 PM
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TTT!!


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