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there were other coilover'frames built, one being the titanium car built in the early 1990's.mike evans had owned the car for a time, he might post comments on this site sometime .... it's been too many year's to remember every thing produced...

This was a 1982 coil over front/torsion rear Nance, notice the difference in the contour of the cage.

compare

This is a Jack Rich chassis, 4 bar by the way

Notice the bracing on the back of the cage, Rich versus Nance.

Your car is either a Jack Rich or a copy. 1981-82 or later

By the way, Emmitt never drove the 76s Gambler. I say that before we even go there.

ONLY SHANE CARSON had the 76s Gambler ride. Once you notice the subtle differences between a Rich and a Gambler cage, then that too will become obvious.

Now, for the curveball that could prove me wrong--

Bob Garnett had a car with a cage that closely resembled your car, and he stated that his was a Shores chassis. Yet when I came across that very same car a few years ago, the owner stated it was a Nance-- I knew better by then.

ALSO, I am curious as to whether or not Horace and Johnny Gilmore of OkC ever copied the Jack Rich design. Long story as to why I ask, it won't do any good to go into it here.

It was from running around with JD Porter years ago, that I learned the obsession of knowing frames.

I am still learning and making mistakes now and then. Enough that I still cannot call myself an expert.

Just trying to help.

This is the Jack Rich coil front 76s that replaced the T bodied 76 I have now

Same car as above, but the roll cage does not match your car.

Brian,

Seen this car in an email from Mike P. and I think it is a early 80-82 Nance from firewall back and was prolly crashed and someone clipped it to a coil over and looks like it was 1/4 mile car at OKC , has the front clip designed for a 6 Cyl. on right side of car ,upper and lower rail.

One of those designs that was thought up in theory but I bet when it was applied on the race track it did not work real well, Coilovers to work take lots of HP and lightweight cars and 6 Cyl. Modifieds on the 1/4 at OKC had neither of these two things to make'em perform well, why Midgets work well with them and bigger cars don't , MP said the guy who got it had purchased it in Gutherie , Ok. , which is why it looks like a 6 Cyl. car from mid 80's at OKC, also has the engine mounts for 6 Cyl. also on the left side.

Also the sissy bars make me believe it is a early 80's Nance as JR did not put sissy bars on his cars, Nance did , Jr. Bruner 81 Nance at Lawton had em, they quit putting them on in about 84 or so as I had an 84 Nance and it did not have them on it.

Bert Woodring, Scott Stroud and Danny Bacus all had Jack Rich cars in late 80's/early 90's and run on 1/4 mile and 1/2 mile at OKC and none of them had sissy bars on their cars that I remember.

J.D.

The elbow/sissy bars were added sometime later. They don't match exactly from side to side, and are mig welded, not tig, like the rest of the car. All the other welds are tig, so I would think the original builder did the clip, it that is what happened. If it was clipped, they did a super job as there is no sign of rewelds or grind marks.

I stand corrected, just seemed like there were a bunch of them with sissy bars back in the early 80's.

J.D.

I keep trying to find a defining element to who built the chassis, such as the location of the nerf bars, etc. My chassis has the front pickup for the nerf at the firewall, whereas the Moore car has a long nerf that protects the headers. Did the chassis builders use their own particular nerfs, or did they build to the buyers specs??

I see alot of similarities to the Rich 76s coil over, such as short nerfs and how the front bumper looks like it plugs into the end of the frame tubes, top and bottom. A big difference is the diagonal brace between the top and bottom rails, in front of the motor. My brace runs up as it goes forward, whereas the brace on the 76 car runs down.

If this was a specifically built 6 cyl frame, it would have been built for a Ford motor, with how the frame is opened up on the right side. I think Chevy's had the exhaust on the left, even it they had a Duggan head. Anyone know of anyone with a Ford 6 cylinder race motor they want to part with??

In looking at the picture of the Rich 76s closer, it looks like the front of the nerf doesn't stop at the firewall, but runs forward past the motor protecting the headers. Sure would like to see that chassis with the body panels off.

Question for Racer1n: How old were you when the last car was built at the Nance shop?

Ford 6? Early 80's

Sounds like a Tulsa car

Hahn at Lawton with a Jack Rich chassis

Ewell in a pre 1985 Nance