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Posted By: leadfoot23 on June 13 2011 at 08:55:51 PM

Not sure what area of the country you live in, but the Missouri area is either already flooded or on the verge of flooding. The upper midwest is in the same situation. Tracks are losing a lot of money this season in these areas due to the constant barrage of rain.

On the flip side of the coin is the still struggling economy that the idiot-in-chief won't admit is larger than he and his crooks in Washington can handle. Oh, but they'll have us believe it's turning around so as not to throw a monkey wrench in their upcoming election. Then throw in the cost of fuel as a side dish and you have many good reasons to keep fans and race teams from going racing this year. In my humble opinion, the reason you're seeing decent car counts is directly correlated to Mother Nature. Teams haven't spent their budget and are itching to race so you're seeing good car counts in some areas while other areas are already seeing the drop in car count.

I used to live in the midwest, but recently moved out west for my job. Let me tell you, this economy issue isn't over. I speak with no data, but common sense (and a few good friends that are in the banking industry Smile ) tells me that the housing and foreclosure epidemic isn't finished. Scary little truth called shadow inventory...banks are holding on to billions (possibly trillions) of dollars worth of real estate. They are slowly selling homes to keep prices from plunging even further. However, they can't hold onto them forever. Eventually they will have to begin dumping them which will cause another catastrophic crash on housing prices. I'm glad I decided to rent, and I really hope I'm wrong about this, but according to my banker friends, we haven't seen the last of the real estate crisis.

Ok, so I'll get back off my box and just end by saying between mother nature and the struggling economy, the damn track owners and the racers can't catch a break.



this is very intelligent (no sarcasm).

I would slightly disagree about directly attributing it to the President. not just this one - but even the dumbest president of all time before him. both sides are guilty of the same exact things they just represent different sides of a coin. IMHO - I think reps are much worse than dems - but should that really matter by now? the fact that both are so crooked speaks for itself.

but most correctly - the issue with the economy is far from over. in fact, it will never be over. everything has just been backwards in this country for a long time. economically of course. the conservative logic has been an epic fail - giving the tax breaks to the rich doesn't really do anything except look good on paper and then make it easy on those who have already outsourced most of their jobs. even those that don't want to outsource almost have to - as a whole, our country is almost to an absurd point of stupidity. But this is a good thing if you're a republican - you need people to be blind to the picture to rail away about the economic crisis they had a majority hand in creating.

sorry I am getting away with this, just the tip of an iceberg to lol. Ultimately I agree with your post, just would probably differ on how we got here. But i enjoyed reading this thought.......it would be nice to get some of the rain up there down here to oklahoma. i am about 30 mi. west of okc and man this is insane heat alongside full blown drought. thats its worse in new mexico and other places that are usually try almost underscores the brutal hell going on here. I mean, we're racing every week - but the vast majority of the races aren't any good. there are hardly any cars and the tracks are just dusty as hell with one lane. It;s contradictory to my nature but I would be all for a few weeks of rainouts right now - and so would most promoters I bet - tracks across the entire state are shutting down left and right frown


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Posted By: sprintfanatic on June 13 2011 at 09:50:32 PM

The Missouri races were nowhere near to any flooding. Lake Ozark Speedway was closed before it started its season this year. The track now has a new promoter that, I believe, is leasing the track, but the track has not rescheduled the ASCS races. Tri-City Speedway in Pontoon Beach, Illinois also had an ASCS race on its schedule but dropped it several weeks before the scheduled date because the new dirt on the track and new concessions stands and rest rooms were not completed as scheduled due to all of the rain this spring.

I agree with you on our mighty leader but please keep this crap off racing forums. Please post it on the Oprah network or some other site that I do not visit. Thanks.



sorry for my op then lol


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Posted By: n2sprints on June 14 2011 at 07:37:10 AM

Excuse me if i ramble, but, Whats wrong with the Natioal Tour? You need to look to the leadership!!!

They should hire someone with marketing skills to approach tracks about scheduling events. Maybe bring sponorship money to help tracks with the purses. local advertising to support the event.

The loss of Tommie Estes was a big mistake. One of the best race directors around.

Maybe Emmett should pump some of the Chili Bowl profits into strengthening the National Tour.



for the upteenth time........all of this started well before Tommie Estes left. This exact thing right here would still be happening whether it be him or Matt Ward.

They will make the adjustments they need to. It is definitely a tight season for racetracks. I think Matt will pull some pretty good stuff off next year. not everyone will be happy......but hell when are they ever? lol

Point is, Matt Ward was a very good person to place in this position. he has the knowledge and the experience. and for those that dont think he has experience - the dude is sharp as a tack AND has spent the last two decades with Emmet and the organization.


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Posted By: checkered48 on June 15 2011 at 06:21:06 AM

There never really was a "national tour" anyway. Maybe they should have just kept things at a regional level, seems they were more successful with that.



you're kind of right. The best days of the national tour were when they stayed within the regions.

its hard to have limited weekends of the year and them be split between long hauls - this is where the money comes in. I think an entirely new/fresh business model will be found very soon - and a very good one too.

On the flip side of that checkered - a lot of those regional tracks are gone now or at least in no condition to host a National show. and I mean a LOT.


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Posted By: JonR on June 15 2011 at 08:01:40 PM

This was a topic when the schedule was announced. The ASCS business model is hurting. Engine costs are too high for the purses. The difference between a regional show and a national event are very minor. National drivers routinely run regional races futher making the difference smaller. Without the cancellations that we now have, the original schedule had huge open holes when there was no racing.

Instead of lowering the national event sanction fee, how about raising the regional show sanction fee. It would drop some of the regional show inventories and would make more promoters decide to have a national show.

Perhaps installing a quota system. For every national event you sanction, you can sanction two regional shows. No national event, no regional event.



now there is some awesome and constructive outside the box thinking....

the initial thoughts are all sound......


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ok screw responding to each of these. hawker and leadfoot both make perfect sense. i give up for the night. off to bed to cover and ascs2 show tomorrow lol.

hope eveyone enjoys their 4th of july shows this weekend Smile


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Posted By: JonR on June 15 2011 at 08:01:40 PM

This was a topic when the schedule was announced. The ASCS business model is hurting. Engine costs are too high for the purses. The difference between a regional show and a national event are very minor. National drivers routinely run regional races futher making the difference smaller. Without the cancellations that we now have, the original schedule had huge open holes when there was no racing.

Instead of lowering the national event sanction fee, how about raising the regional show sanction fee. It would drop some of the regional show inventories and would make more promoters decide to have a national show.

Perhaps installing a quota system. For every national event you sanction, you can sanction two regional shows. No national event, no regional event.



Try that and the tracks will tell the series to stick it.The 360 cars cars race in most of the areas every week anyhow,you aren't going to force that idea on anybody.





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