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That is the last jalopy I had # 93 last sprint car was # 9 . My sons car # is 14E sponsored by SPORT CLIPS . He has ran The Devils Bowl since 03 won 3 features theere last year, They are running ASCS Gulf South this year with Tommy Bryant from The Woodlands Tx. driving . They won the Cowtown sprint nationals last November.

BRIAN, WHAT MAKES YA THINK THERE WERE 2 1980-S ALUMINUM FRAMES ??????????? I ONLY SAW ONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I did not mean to imply there were 2 1987 aluminum frames. I only know of that one from that year.

I was referring to yardfun's memory of seeing two frames against the wall in 1979.

This "search FOR THE STORY ON THE ALUMINUM NANCE FRAME" is really about the 1970's Linder/Carson driven car. The other cars were interesting as well, but the drive for the discovery part is really about the first aluminum frame(s?). But of course the entire history of these few cars is really neat too.

We now have established 2 aluminum frames from 1977, 1987- 1 from each year

1 titanium frame from the early 1990's

That makes 3 alternative material chassis from Nance.

We want to know if there is another 1977(?) aluminum frame out there somewhere.

I was only making a rationalization.

Ya'll need to know this-

Some of us look at frames in the way the tubes are bent, welded and so on. The "nuance" of the way the frame is layed out, the cage especially, is how we know what year, or close to, the frame was actually built. Each design is either a good form of art, or a bad form of art.

For example

Parson 1970's supermod chassis--Good form of art

Heintzelman 1971 sprint car chassis- bad form of art -But it won a lot of races with Opp at the wheel (orange 99 Bogar car)

A 1977 built frame, is a totally differant animal than a 1987 built frame. The 1977 frame would be more desireable in most cases, based on many things to make it that way.

The cage gives it away immediately.

I want to make it clear that this car was steel, it was/is a Mitchell frame- with NANCE components.

Karl Kinser designed the driveline setup to eliminate the in/out box.

Nance used what he could to get the Nance brand out there. In 1978, this was it.

Today I'm looking at the 1989 USA Sprint car race at Hutch. And there is a RED 1n sprinter with a white 1n wing.

This car looked like the 1987 aluminum version- in terms of color. Anybody know when the 1987 version was driven into the lightpole? The cage on this car almost looked like the 1988 design, but it went by too fast. I'll post the clip eventually, I am having very short time at the computer right now.

brian, i remember a customer of nance that had a red sprinter with the 1n, several owner's had asked to run the 1n, which mr nance said it was o/k with him !!!!!!

Would that have been Jon Johnson in one of those western Kansas owned cars?

Warren Vincent
Cans 4 Kansas Heroes

I am working from my memory, but as the years roll by it gets foggier by the day.

The aluminum car you saw in the shed was the car that Fred Linder and Shane Carson both drove, and it is the same car that Shane Carson later purchased at the auction and to my knowledge still owns it.

The 2nd alum car built in the late 80's was the car that Jon Johnson drove and won with at 81 Speedway. It was not Titanium. The car Johnson drove was later wrapped around the pole out front of the shop.

Titanium car was built in early 90's and Johnson drove it at 81 speedway. That was the night the wheel came off the car and went up inot the stands. After that night my Grandfather was so over taken with grief that he lost his desire to go racing. The car was parked at the house. It was later sold to the guy in Texas with the promise that it would not be raced.

Like I said, I am working from memory, but I am Laverne's oldest Grandson and also the son of Carol, so I grew up through all that history and witnessed a tremendous # of races first hand.

Anything else I can answer drop me a line. [email protected]

I currently live in the Austin, TX area.

This is from an email I got from Marty Brieten, son of Boyd "Bones" Brieten - this about aluminum frames in the 1970's at Nance

The Linder/Carson aluminum sprint car 'was the one true aluminum sprint frame built', Bones did not help build that car.

But he did say he helped build 2 (two) Pikes Peak aluminum frame cars around 1977- or 1978. Marty, his son, has a picture of Bones holding one of the frames over his head! Last Bones knew of the frames, they went to Denver.

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As you know, sprint car frames have been modified over the years for Pikes Peak, and in some cases built new entirely just to run up there.

Those two frames leaning against the wall could have been the Pikes Peak frames.

So here's the count I get

1970's-

1 aluminum sprint car frame (Linder/Carson)

2 aluminum "sprint type" frames built to run at Pikes Peak

1980's

1 aluminum sprint car frame (Jon Johnson/others)

1990's

1 Titanium sprint car frame

PS- Disregard my comment about the aluminum supermodified remains making the rounds in North Texas swap meets. I HAVE NEVER GOTTEN ANY CONFIRMATION WHATSOEVER ON IT BEING A TRUE NANCE FRAME-RUMORS OR OTHERWISE. That car could have come from anywhere. In fact , since it had no paint, it may have never even been finished to run.

a little more-

Both of the pikes Peak frames were sprint car, but they were coil over fronts

From the Mike Pogue collection

Dewey , Oklahoma

I know Bones well and practically lived at the shop while he worked for us. I remeber helping him rock the old ford pickup back and for to get it started and remeber the old trailer he lived in out back and hung the garden hose over the fence which was how he took most of his showers. This guy was TOUGH! I am not saying Bones is wrong, but i certainly do not remember any aluminum cars built to run Pikes Peak with. The one Fred Linder and Shane Carson drove was built by Larry Foley & Adrian Rogers. There is a picture floating around of Larry holding that car over his head in the parking lot of the old building on Wellington place. I know the cars that Al Unser Jr won the Pikes Peak with in the late 70's were all steel frames. My first race car was one of those cars.

If Bones says he built 2 aluminum frames I believe him. I just don't remember them.

I would like to know who drove them. Any Idea?

No idea. Bones son checks in here often.

I may have forgot to mention Bones didn't help on the Linder/Carson car, that one was already built before .

I'm sure this will get worked out, all parties seem to be honest and with good intentions. Surely he could send you an email, he's registered with this site.

From the Mar Car collection, a couple more pictures of the aluminum Nance sprinter

What are the chassis numbers of your two Nance frames? Thank you.

1-87-1 is on one of them. I'm absolutely certain on the other one, I do know it's very close to like 6-87-10a), but I'm not totally sure.

I do know the 1-87-1 chassis was built in January, and from what I've picked up, the 6 on the other frame is from June.