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And according to a post by Tim Kaeding's mom on the NorCal board, TK will be driving the 11K for SKR with the WoO next year. Done deal.

Glad to see TK with a good reliable car for the 2007 season.

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That was in response to your post that they were out that day...People kept posting that they were done everyday, yet no word for real. It is just that...a month ago (but i believe it was more like 2) They were not going out that day.

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I see the same people dancing in this thread as while

Brian 

"TURN AROUND; MATE !"

May have missed something as been a long day after all hell broke loose in line for PS 3...

So why is Kaeding's name not mentioned anywhere in that release?

yep David your right. I'll keep sittin on my ass watchin. I agree with you on them livin their dream. Hence what I said about last year being great. But when Anderson and Rose fail to make any of the first 25 features and quit (if that were to happen) what is DIRT gonna do call up Jason Sides and the rest of the former NSt drivers? I guess thats something to be worried about when it happens. WHat the hell did my post have to do with car counts? It has more to do with the QUALITY of cars. So I'm not the only one opening my mouth without thinking. Whether it's Anderson, Rose, and Hindi..........or Sides Solwold, McMahon or others it is still the same amount of full time (Mean 20) cars. The only difference is QUALITY. But all this news is great news for 410 racing and that is what matters. What drivers are best for the tour and so on and so forth will work itself out in the end. My point was this doesn't seem like mush of a re-unification if only 4 of the NST drivers return.

CCC only comes from me always askin James when I first get to SFS how many cars they have.......not because I believe a show absolutely depends on the car count. Sprint Bandits generally have low counts and still put on a hell of a show. Lawton Sooner Region 2 years back only had 16 sprints, but the race between Jennings and McClelland on the final lap was the best of the year. I don't mind being joked with about the whole CCC thing, but when it is taken literally as that I think the whole show will be completely based on that........the joke is not on me anymore. And in the end what did you do than what replace what you label "a negative post" with .......another negative post. Thats the pot callin the kettle black.

same with 1zemco fan. I gave an opinion. Same as you did. That was not a "not nice" post......as you put it. It was opinion. Not even a negative one. I think this is all great news. And if Becca Anderson proves just about everyone wrong and goes out and wins a feature or 2 next year......good for her. And I'll admit that opinion was wrong. Doubt very many others will though.

In the end........it's awesome DIRT didn't sell out the teams that kept their series going. DIRT keepin that loyalty to those drivers sends a good positive message to just about everybody........including those that split last season. Funny watchin some nit-pick at posts to bash on. I'm glad I came through for ya. But I, just as you, think this is a good thing for the sport. Kinda funny I haven't seen SHREK on here yet tho................................

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Will they still be serving COLD BEER? Everything else is secondary.

Stan Meissner

No one liked Kruger including me, but if he hadn't quit how would you have known the difference... Brian Carter and Shane Carson were already calling the shots LONG BEFORE the split even happened. Besides, a lot of you guys still hate Dirt MotorSports anyway...lol. Also, Mr Brownfield's tragic death seemed to most people to only strengthen the resolve of the NST, not lessen it. If anything it probably made the split go on LONGER.

Kinser and company simply left for greener pastures which they never found. The promoters and ultimately the race fans shut them down. I am elated Kinser and Lasoski have come to their senses, but lack of a NST schedule, lack of a point fund, and that the World of Outlaws have much better marketing and television packages in place is why they are back.

 
 
 
They don't even know how to spell sprint car 
much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com

I was one person not in DIRT's corner, and I am still not a fan of DIRT. With that being said, it looks like the ride is over for the NST. Without Kinser & Lasoski it would be nothing more than a glorified ALL-Star Circuit of Champions. No promoter in their right mind would pay a sanctioning fee for what is left.

I still think DIRT has a LONG, LONG way to go, but I can sit back and applaud them for the TV package. That is one thing that they made a very wise decision on. Less races on ESPN2 & SPEED are better than 35-50 races on The Outdoor Channel.

I am still waiting for all these cost cutting measures from DIRT, which we will probably never see! I read an article the other day that said DIRT is not planning on any real changes for 2007, which is what I have been saying all along. The are not in it to help the local racers as some have suggested. Through their testing they have found that they can slow the cars down a little bit, but they still have not addressed the real issues, tires & motors. I really don't think DIRT is the answer, but they are the big ballgame in town right now. I wish someone would step up and buy the WoO sprint car series (hint to Tony Stewart, lol) from DIRT, and make the changes that would allow more competition and larger fields of local competitors to challenge the traveling bandits.

I just hope next year brings great racing and great growth in this sport I love! Here is for large car counts & great side by side racing!

OK, now that everybody has this warm and fuzzy feeling about what looks apparent, and that is, only (1) major 410 sprint car series, reality is soon coming to the forefront.

In other words, this simply puts the national 410 sprints series back to where it was before 2006. If my memory serves me correctly, over half of the race tracks in 2005 did not make any money on their WoO shows then. Just about all of the same problems exist now that existed then.

Regardless of what someone says, the Unified Sprint Car Summit, so far, looks like a dog and pony show. I doubt if much of anything changes as far as rules go for the 2007 season. If I'm wrong time will tell, but so far, it looks like your flag waving post says it all.

Just because all the drivers will once again be united, the same major problems have not went away.

If it turns out to be 2005 all over again, that won't be good...CZ

Does this mean that Kinser gets DIRT's permission to use "King of the Outlaws" once again? But seriously,I just do not see them having 20 full time travelers by the end of 2007.Just glad that some of the underfunded teams in 2006 got to live their dream by touring with the WoO. I hope that some of the issues that caused the split have been or are being addressed so that sprint car racing continues in many years to come.

sprintfreak- I somehow have the feeling that Steve Kinser will be the blame for the WoO not making any cost saving rule changes.

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spot1--you could not be more wrong with your post i am a fan and me and my family and Friends pay the way for these guys to race and that makes us the biggest part of the show and if racing ever forgets that well we start paying the football teams and the theatres and the mini golf games instead

Robert Bond    San Jose Ca

Does anyone here really think Steve returning to The World Of Outlaws has anything to do with with what ever went on last year ? Or even another title ?

When Ted died even though Dirt was holding all the cards, it opened a void in sprint car racing that could only be filled by Steve Kinser and he has (I beleive) stepped up to the plate for more than 1 reason. Ok. he signed a new deal with Quaker State and that's cool but I would be willing to bet that sooner than later (1 maybe 2 seasons) he will be at the helm of the Dirt Motorsport deal when it comes to Sprtin Car racing in this country. Steve is no spring chicken and he knows it. So at this stage of the game one should be asking: not what Sprint Car racing did for Steve kinser.....But What Steve Kinser did for Sprint Car Racing, past, present and most of all future.

Good post Sprintfreak. Maybe you should email the World of Outlaws or Ben Geisler with your concerns about the Unified Sprint Car Summit? Couldn't hurt. Hawker also brings up a good point now that the fox is back in the hen house. On top of having corporate sponsorship, teams like SKR get most of their equipment for free. If we've learned anything this past year, they're not going to willingly give up even a tiny bit of that advantage. It might be a good idea to make sure everyone is still keeping honest.

(Excerpt taken from Len Sammons' DOVER NSL NOTES in the 27 Sept 05 Area Auto Racing News.)

None of the drivers on hand had any complaints about the new WoO owners not meeting their financial obligations. Concerns, however, included talk of possible rules to cut cost, including smaller wings or tires or a spec tire. The idea publicized by DIRT management earlier this year-and then later dropped-to add starters on the cars still remains a bad subject.

In a nutshell, a driver said, the (NSL) drivers "want to remain the F-1 of dirt track racing" with few rules...

On the other hand, estimates to run the series range from $4,000 to $10,000 per race for top teams. With ticket prices already too high and promoters taking great risks with higher sanction fees, if costs are not cut then new money through sponsorship is key.

 
 
 
They don't even know how to spell sprint car 
much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com

You are right no one does have the right to bitch about how these people make their living. So, why did so many bitch when they made the choice to make their living with another organization?

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Parker's pockets are a LOT deeper than Quaker State's. If there is any influence it would be by the people with the most $$$.

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And now we have more people DANCING

Brian 

"TURN AROUND; MATE !"

I am just happy now I can go to a race and see most all the big names there together other than at just Knoxville. I think the NST drivers stood up for what they believed in and they have gotten results and changes to help thier concerns from DIRT. They made a years sacrifice to do what they believed in and apparently things have gotten better. The biggest thing that bugs me the most out of this is not constant arguements and the split of fans over the NST/DIRT , but how alot of people have looked down on Donny Schatz's WoO championship. Donny and the 15 other WoO drivers made a decision just the same as the NST drivers did. People need to respect thier decisions I personally see Donny's championship no less then I see Danny Lasoski's they both did what they had to to win it despite who was and was not there. That factor was not anything they controlled. I was also glad to see that DIRT has chosen to bring back all the drivers that stood with them through the tough year as they deserve that. The fans were the losers last year, but maybe through all these changes and the tv package the fans will be the winners for many years to come. I know this news makes me have a whole new outlook of the racing season ahead.