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RodinCanada
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December 05, 2023 at 05:41:40 PM
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I don't understand why any team is making an announcement of committing to anything that doesn't require commitment. 
Daily non special purses are pretty similar. For those who don't have a legit chance against the WoO can race for WoO sized purses against car more equal to their own. This has to be good for many. 
 

There must be some loyalty from guys like Bill Rose to the WoO. The WoO must have treated him well for many years or why wouldn't he step away from that series for similar prize money against less successful teams? Perks might be that reason. 
 

I don't think it would take much for a track to offer huge money the night of a HL race and successfully draw many away from the HL. 
 

Why wouldn't  the HL keep the recognizable name of the Ascoc and take it nationally. That name has value but they stick with HL??? Head scratcher. Arrogance?? Dunno.  
 

I predict a short lived series simply because when the WoO come to town I know a dozen good cars will arrive. 


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care what most of you think!

jason88cubs
December 06, 2023 at 09:01:18 AM
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Remember when Brad Sweet said High Limit wasn't looking to compete with Outlaws?

 

Remember the details that he was at Outlaw races last year trying to persuade drivers (And I presume officials) to go to High Limit full time?

 

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PeteP
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December 06, 2023 at 01:41:38 PM
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I really do not consider the two groups competing. Well maybe they are for drivers/teams/officials somewhat. As a fan I will watch them all but at this point I only steam Flo. I do have Direct TV so I get CBS Sports Net and MAVTV. The other night there ws a midget race on CBS Sports that came from Dirt Vision. The audio was terrible. Commercials audio was fine. I fianlly just turned it down and watched. Their graphics need an upgrade. Lap count and car numbers for the leaders displayed on the top of the screen are badly needed.  Wake up Dirt Vision and Flo. Quality audio and video are both needed.




jason88cubs
December 06, 2023 at 05:50:57 PM
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Really Rico? Wow



Sprinter27R
December 06, 2023 at 06:21:14 PM
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This message was edited on December 06, 2023 at 06:23:12 PM by Sprinter27R
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Posted By: jason88cubs on December 06 2023 at 05:50:57 PM

Really Rico? Wow



It makes perfect sense for Rico, he can race all the high limit races and any other races he wants to. I think it's great and I look foward to seeing him in Oregon and Washington.


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BStrawser26
December 06, 2023 at 06:32:55 PM
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Posted By: Sprinter27R on December 06 2023 at 06:21:14 PM

It makes perfect sense for Rico, he can race all the high limit races and any other races he wants to. I think it's great and I look foward to seeing him in Oregon and Washington.



Yes, he doesn't have to only choose 4 races outside the HL like he would with WRG.


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EasyE
December 06, 2023 at 06:52:49 PM
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Anyone know if Tricky Ricky is with Rico throughout the whole HL schedule



Johnny Utah
December 06, 2023 at 08:37:54 PM
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This message was edited on December 06, 2023 at 08:39:11 PM by Johnny Utah
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Posted By: jason88cubs on December 06 2023 at 09:01:18 AM

Remember when Brad Sweet said High Limit wasn't looking to compete with Outlaws?

 

Remember the details that he was at Outlaw races last year trying to persuade drivers (And I presume officials) to go to High Limit full time?

 

Classy Individual



If I was starting my own business and my co-workers/colleagues had experience/skills I could use to help run my business, you're damn right I'd be asking if they were interested in leaving. 

Everybody talks. If I took the temperature of the room, so to speak, and people seemed to be unhappy about certain things and I felt my new venture might remedy some of those things, again, I'd see if they were interested in leaving amd joining me.

Same thing happens in college football. Coach/recruiter leaves a program and very quickly some players hit the transfer portal or incoming freshmen decommit and follow him elsewhere.

It's not personal, it's business.



Shortie12
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December 07, 2023 at 12:19:54 AM
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Posted By: Johnny Utah on December 06 2023 at 08:37:54 PM

If I was starting my own business and my co-workers/colleagues had experience/skills I could use to help run my business, you're damn right I'd be asking if they were interested in leaving. 

Everybody talks. If I took the temperature of the room, so to speak, and people seemed to be unhappy about certain things and I felt my new venture might remedy some of those things, again, I'd see if they were interested in leaving amd joining me.

Same thing happens in college football. Coach/recruiter leaves a program and very quickly some players hit the transfer portal or incoming freshmen decommit and follow him elsewhere.

It's not personal, it's business.



Macedo will probably stay WOO but He is best non commited driver and Schatz would be big for hl but wont happen.I personally dont see any difference in the big races as Knoxville Eldora and Hussets will see Rico Sweet Kyle if possible  The All Stars are no more but the HL took their place with higher paying mid week shows.A lot about nothing just will have new WOO champion. Flo racing versus Dirt Vision is more the story. The WOO will not be affected and have great name recognition and if you can stand the traveling hard to com

pete with their support of their commited drivers




bgtexpress
December 07, 2023 at 07:22:05 AM
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No surprise that Rico comitted to High Limits. They really needed him for Star Power. Without him, the series was lacking in the races when Kyle was not there. It will be interesting to see how he does running a national series full time for the first time in his career.?



revjimk
December 07, 2023 at 02:50:33 PM
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The big question remaining is Tyler Courtney, right?

I'm assuming Schatz will stay with Outlaws, but what do I know?



revjimk
December 07, 2023 at 02:54:59 PM
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Something crossed my mind.... Sammy is still racing occasionally, & sometimes wins (Usually 360s)

He should take a shot at some of these HL races..... he'd be a good draw & you never know whats gonna happen.... wink




BStrawser26
December 07, 2023 at 06:04:17 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on December 07 2023 at 02:54:59 PM

Something crossed my mind.... Sammy is still racing occasionally, & sometimes wins (Usually 360s)

He should take a shot at some of these HL races..... he'd be a good draw & you never know whats gonna happen.... wink



Sammy running a 410 again and being successful isn't going to happen.  He is way past his prime.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

Murphy
December 07, 2023 at 09:21:05 PM
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This message was edited on December 07, 2023 at 09:22:07 PM by Murphy
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on December 07 2023 at 06:04:17 PM

Sammy running a 410 again and being successful isn't going to happen.  He is way past his prime.



Why do you say that? All the WoO fans are saying HL will be a watered down series with only 2 or 3 fast guys. wink



BStrawser26
December 07, 2023 at 09:30:31 PM
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This message was edited on December 07, 2023 at 09:33:27 PM by BStrawser26
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Posted By: Murphy on December 07 2023 at 09:21:05 PM

Why do you say that? All the WoO fans are saying HL will be a watered down series with only 2 or 3 fast guys. wink



Looks to me like both series with who signed up are even in talent from the driver's seat. 

This isn't a regular Saturday night show in central PA.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!


resprinter
December 08, 2023 at 05:21:54 AM
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Posted By: RodinCanada on December 05 2023 at 05:41:40 PM

I don't understand why any team is making an announcement of committing to anything that doesn't require commitment. 
Daily non special purses are pretty similar. For those who don't have a legit chance against the WoO can race for WoO sized purses against car more equal to their own. This has to be good for many. 
 

There must be some loyalty from guys like Bill Rose to the WoO. The WoO must have treated him well for many years or why wouldn't he step away from that series for similar prize money against less successful teams? Perks might be that reason. 
 

I don't think it would take much for a track to offer huge money the night of a HL race and successfully draw many away from the HL. 
 

Why wouldn't  the HL keep the recognizable name of the Ascoc and take it nationally. That name has value but they stick with HL??? Head scratcher. Arrogance?? Dunno.  
 

I predict a short lived series simply because when the WoO come to town I know a dozen good cars will arrive. 



I agree, the All Stars name had recognition but I guess they wanted thier own name which is fine. After the schedule release it made sense to me why they went with High Limit; because they limited how high they are traveling up in the upper midwest! Not a race in ND, SD, MN or WI. Only a couple in IA.



saphead
December 08, 2023 at 07:42:43 AM
Joined: 11/30/2004
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Donny Schatz will announce his allegiance this morning at 10:30. This is a big domino 

 

 



BStrawser26
December 08, 2023 at 07:51:38 AM
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Posted By: saphead on December 08 2023 at 07:42:43 AM

Donny Schatz will announce his allegiance this morning at 10:30. This is a big domino 

 

 



Well, he isn't the biggest domino...he was at one point.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!


saphead
December 08, 2023 at 09:33:06 AM
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This message was edited on December 08, 2023 at 09:33:53 AM by saphead

Schatz stays with the WoO for 2024. 

https://twitter.com/WorldofOutlaws/status/1733147237838967189



north star
December 08, 2023 at 10:53:23 AM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on December 08 2023 at 07:51:38 AM

Well, he isn't the biggest domino...he was at one point.



what a weird to say that... the value that comes with just the name of schatz is extremely significant. is he the top driver in the nation? I would say probably not but he is still certainly a top five driver even at this point of his career. From a drawing aspect, outside of say maybe kyle larson, I would say he still draws more fans than the rest of either side including sweet. However, that's just my opinion.





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