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I don't want to argue I'm just tired of hearing about Schatz I really am

Jordan was the best and now idiots say Lebrick is but he has lost too much to be the best IMO

Petty was the best then Dale sr which there is no way

AJ was the best now it's Tony.... Whatever 

prisoner of the moment Brad Doty not you egras

okay cars are equal now but talent is not okay

Schatz don't have a Sammy or wolf to contend with to match his talent like kinser did but just go back and watch Steve and Sammy when woo started they won and destroyed and then watch Schatz and he didn't do shit till the talent ran out and then he dominated all because what......????? It's because he can race in traffic light years ahead of the rest IMO,Schatz is real good but a Steve Kinser he will never be. Donny can only drive one type of race car and be good and idiots being prisoners of the moment think he is the best ever when what he has is a weak ass talent pool around him..... why can't any driver today match him in wins in a season and contend with him nightly and have that rivalry I want and instead it's 1 off dudleys here and there winning woo races and then some regulars getting some here and there but never ever do the regulars really seriously ever mount a serious threat to Schatz but damn it Steve had it on 95% of his nights from Sammy and Doug. I watched a lot of races when Steve and Sammy along with Blaney and mark were the guys and schatz was in b-mains and running 15th just like the 2002 video game on Ps2 where the game always has Schatz running 15th for a reason, (cause that's what his stats were), so around talent Schatz was nothing more then a feature filler for the 24 four abreast parade lap and now that he is the best...cough cough he is king but damn it,he isn't beating anybody IMO but second grade talented winged sprint car drivers, I won't say anything again cause it don't matter anyway cause it's a bunch of cars racing in a circle on a dirt track and statistics show 99% of the world don't care and don't even know what a damn sprint car is I mean damn this will speak volumes on who really gives a shit, Woo has 82,000 people who follow them on twitter and that's pathetic and a sign that there are not enough people giving a shit about Donny Schatz and little cars racing in a circle in front of little crowds that are getting thinner for a reason and I'm gonna lean towards TALENT 

Long live the king Steve Kinser and Sammy Swindell who gave everyone the best years that Sprints will ever see and the hell with this win off the front row unless your Schatz who can pass bullshit product they call Woo

modifieds at Bloomington put on a better show and when the woo went there the modifieds were up first and were the premier attraction and that's sad

last thing Brad Doty is not a pimple on Steve Kinser ass and should never try to even entertain the shit he did 

Damn prisoner of the moment Brad Doty hip hip and I'm gonna skip skip out of this thread for good cause it's pointless

Good post Willie.  I agree.

Two points from me:

1.  Brad Doty is correct.  The competition level is greater and he is still beating everyone on a regular basis.

Which leads me to the overlooked job the WOO has done:

2.  The World of Outlaws and sprint car racing in general has done their job of keeping the parody in sprint car racing.  Most of us seem to agree that Schatz is at least equally as impressive as Kinser.  And yet, he does not dominate the sport like Kinser did---leaving about 2/3 of the races to be won by other drivers.  As much as everyone seems to think we have a one man show going on in the WOO, it is quite the opposite.  The one man show happened 2 or 3 decades ago.  When I attend a WOO race, I feel like there is a legit chance for 15-20 other cars to win the race.  Did we feel that way in the late 80's and early 90's?  No. 

So, Donny's career as a whole may end up being more impressive than the King's-----without him stealing all of the wins. 

I don't want to argue I'm just tired of hearing about Schatz I really am

Jordan was the best and now idiots say Lebrick is but he has lost too much to be the best IMO

Petty was the best then Dale sr which there is no way

AJ was the best now it's Tony.... Whatever 

prisoner of the moment Brad Doty not you egras

okay cars are equal now but talent is not okay

Schatz don't have a Sammy or wolf to contend with to match his talent like kinser did but just go back and watch Steve and Sammy when woo started they won and destroyed and then watch Schatz and he didn't do shit till the talent ran out and then he dominated all because what......????? It's because he can race in traffic light years ahead of the rest IMO,Schatz is real good but a Steve Kinser he will never be. Donny can only drive one type of race car and be good and idiots being prisoners of the moment think he is the best ever when what he has is a weak ass talent pool around him..... why can't any driver today match him in wins in a season and contend with him nightly and have that rivalry I want and instead it's 1 off dudleys here and there winning woo races and then some regulars getting some here and there but never ever do the regulars really seriously ever mount a serious threat to Schatz but damn it Steve had it on 95% of his nights from Sammy and Doug. I watched a lot of races when Steve and Sammy along with Blaney and mark were the guys and schatz was in b-mains and running 15th just like the 2002 video game on Ps2 where the game always has Schatz running 15th for a reason, (cause that's what his stats were), so around talent Schatz was nothing more then a feature filler for the 24 four abreast parade lap and now that he is the best...cough cough he is king but damn it,he isn't beating anybody IMO but second grade talented winged sprint car drivers, I won't say anything again cause it don't matter anyway cause it's a bunch of cars racing in a circle on a dirt track and statistics show 99% of the world don't care and don't even know what a damn sprint car is I mean damn this will speak volumes on who really gives a shit, Woo has 82,000 people who follow them on twitter and that's pathetic and a sign that there are not enough people giving a shit about Donny Schatz and little cars racing in a circle in front of little crowds that are getting thinner for a reason and I'm gonna lean towards TALENT 

Long live the king Steve Kinser and Sammy Swindell who gave everyone the best years that Sprints will ever see and the hell with this win off the front row unless your Schatz who can pass bullshit product they call Woo

modifieds at Bloomington put on a better show and when the woo went there the modifieds were up first and were the premier attraction and that's sad

last thing Brad Doty is not a pimple on Steve Kinser ass and should never try to even entertain the shit he did 

Damn prisoner of the moment Brad Doty hip hip and I'm gonna skip skip out of this thread for good cause it's pointless

"Parody" means satire

"Parity" means equality

(Before we go any farther, I'm not a Schatz fan)

Thanks for clarifying that for me Willie.  When I said "most of us" I was referring to the responders of THIS thread--and referring to the folks that already responded.  CHILL OUT DIRTLOVER!!   Thanks for taking shots at my intelligence before understanding the context of my reply.

 Not speaking for all sprint car fans across the country.  I believe that what Schatz has done at least puts him in conversation with Kinser---and he has a lot of time left and is still in his prime with no signs of backing down.  (And by the way, Kinser is my favorite driver of all time--both for his abilities and the way he carried himself at the track with other drivers and fans)  

WOO racing IS full of more parody than it was 20 years ago--no one can deny that.  The cars are more equal--not my words, words of many of the great sprint car experts across the country.  Yet Schatz has still found a way to be dominant--even as the WOO has pushed for more parody.  

blazer00---As far as the "15 cars can win on any given night", I made that statement before I even looked at a recent season's win total.  So here are the facts from last year:

1. 16 different winners

2.  # of Cars and/or drivers that didn't win last year but are capable of winning a WOO race and have won WOO races in the past?  McMahon, Swindell, Kraig Kinser, Brown, Shaffer, Lasoski...............does anyone want me to keep going?   I don't think my number was high.  

11 full time drivers won as well as drivers like Billy Balog.  How did I f#$k that up?  

What you missed is quite simple really. You made it sound like an everyday thing in your first post about numbers. Just how often are ALL the drivers you mention as WoO winners gathered at the same time? Maybe once or twice a year? Each time you think you are at a WoO race that has 15-20 real potential Feature winners, write them down and post it. It's more like those who have a win here and there over a period of thier careers aren't really threats to win. Some (not all) were front starting row flukes.

There were 17 winners of WoO events last year.

15 raced at Volusia. 14 were in the A Main on Sunday where Schatz started 17th. Pretty good field of cars I'd say, and he destroyed the field. This Schatz guy isn't bad.