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The track owner did not charge every driver that entered the pits $35 pit pass plus the $50 car entry fee. I have a sport mod and they only charged me $50 for my pit pass and car entry fee

It says on the midget add that it suppose to be 30 bucks for a pitpass,who changed that from 35,plus another 15 or 50?Here's the add

2nd Annual " Turkey Open Wheel Classic" at Springfield Raceway in Springfield , MO.
Saturday, Nov 29, 2008. .

OMMS Midgets will join winged 360 sprints and modifieds in what promises to be an excellent opportunity to burn those Thanksgiving calories.

Springfield Raceway is a high banked 1/4 mile dirt track located just off Interstate 44 at 2110 N Westgate Ave.

Hot laps will start in mid afternoon with the goal of completing the event by 7:00 pm to beat the cold weather.

Pit Gates Open @ 12:00 Noon
Grandstands Open @ 2:00 PM
Hot Laps @ 2:30 PM
Racing @ 3:00 PM
Pit Passes $30.00

Any midget or UPRIGHT mini sprint (13" wheels/ bladder/no wings) is legal. All midgets must use the same RR tire in Heat Race and A Feature. RR must durometer 36 or harder. Tires will be marked by OMMS official in staging prior to heat race. Any car who changes RR tire before A feature must start tailback. If a dash or semi feature is needed those cars will be allowed to run another tire but must put the heat race tire back on for the A feature.

Midgets $500 to win, $50 to start.

Directions: From Interstate 44 take exit # 75 ( 160 west, Springfield/Branson Regional Airport, Willard, West Bypass) Go South 1/10 mile at exit. . Turn RIGHT on W Kearney St / Mo-744W toward airport. Go 1 mile to Westgate Ave / Farm Road 123 Turn LEFT on N Westgate . Track is 2/10 mile on LEFT.

This is a great chance to tune up before the indoor racing season starts or have one last hurrah before the car goes to bed for the winter.

For more info call Dustin @ 417-741-7815 or 417-259-2815 (cell) or email to [email protected].



360 sprints $2,000 to win, WOW rules I believe. Contact Sprngfield Raceway for Sprint Car and Modified info.

Hmm that sounds funny, i asked around and all the sprint guys that i talked to and all of the midget guys that i talked to had to pay it. We pitted next to a modified (not sure which kind it was) and they said that they had to pay the additional money. All i know is that we are out quite a bit of money thanks to this scum bag. I just had a bad feeling when i saw all of those cars there and it was still raining.   I know sometimes in racing they have to call the race because the weather is too bad, but dont screw this many people out of their money, the way he did. 

Same jackass as he was bragging about that when we finally found him and his spineless partner Hoffman exactly who i thought from earlier post. My only question on that series is he the one who ran it into the ground. I would bet yes on that. Oh and by the everyone i told them that the message boards would lite up on this one and Hoffman stated that there is no credibility on these message boards cause its just a bunch of people running their mouths and hiding behind their computers so be sure and sign your name for that squirrel. Darin Robison

If anyone feels like kissing the ass of the owner and promoter, get on this forum. They are lifting Bland and Hoffman to the sainthood level for robbing everyone and throwing some "green light" laps to justify keeping everyone's money. Kiss! Kiss! Kiss! Idiots....

http://www.southwestmissouriracing.com/Forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13920

Obviously, these are people that live 10 miles from the track which race there regularly and have something other than mud on their noses.

www.badmanracing.com

SLEEP WELL AMERICA, MY SON HAS GOT YOUR BACK!
OOORAH MARINES!

merry christmas

Jen,

Thanks for posting the link to the other message board so now we can see both sides of the story. 

I could see making an argument both ways on the refunds but you're going about this the wrong way by falsely stating about the extra charges at the pit gate & filling up forums with BS.  You credibility is lacking due to the fact that you were not at the race!

Just goes to show that a promoter can never make everyone happy.  Some say it should have been cancelled earlier, some say you're lucky they didn't run the heats in the rain to fully collect the money (which I've witnessed numerous times), some say they have never gotten a return on a rain out but simply a raincheck to a re-scheduled event like in this case.

I think it all comes down to that you didn't want your husband going in the first place and now you have to make a huge deal over it. 

The ad referenced above for the Midget info was the info that I sent out 2 weeks prior to the event. At that time this is the info that I had. I found out Friday at 11:00 am that the pit pass/entry had been changed. I sent emails to all of our drivers that I have contact info for and phoned others to inform them.

As for the cancellation policy, it is my understanding that this is the policy that Springfield Raceway has used all year with relatively minimal issues. (it rained a bunch this year) The track has stated that all pit passes, entry fees and ticket stubs will be treated as rain checks and that the event will be re-scheduled in March of 2009. I am under the impression that the rain checks will be able to be used for other events at Springfield if a ticket holder is unable to return for the March date.

I understand that it will be nearly impossible for many of the people to return for another date. Too many people came from too far away for a rain check to be of any value. No matter what this was a bad deal for what could have been a GREAT event. To have 26 midgets and 35 sprinters in the pits at a track in SW Missouri is mind boggling in this stock car heavy area.

My sincere thanks goes out to the 26 midget drivers and crews who came out for what would have been the biggest OMMS Sportsman Midget race to date.

Mother Nature has dominated the 2008 racing season and she finished up the season with another big win. Would someone please find her traction control device so we can be on equal footing with her in 2009?!?!?

Midget Racing on a mini stock budget

www.ozarkmountainmidgets.com

Dustin Arnall, President

I didn't have to be there Bonose to know how much money got spent! Just because I didn't freeze my butt off AND lose money doesn't mean I don't know what is going on. I'm not the one that stated $85 a car and driver - we paid $50. But that IS what a lot of teams paid. I don't think the right hand knew what the left hand was doing all night at that track. Some paid $85 and some paid $50 (running the same class!). Some paid $15 for transponder rental and then they ran out and some didn't have to pay. Regardless, everyone got stung by the deal. So it was a cluster from the get-go obviously. Mass confusion set in all the way around. I'm not the only one that was upset about this or there wouldn't have been a lot of cop cars there - 'cuz remember I wasn't there - someone else (or MANY someone else's) were just as upset - if not more - than I am obviously. Get a clue.

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SLEEP WELL AMERICA, MY SON HAS GOT YOUR BACK!
OOORAH MARINES!

Jen,

Why isn't your "hubby" on this forum raising hell about this robbery instead of you since he was the one there and he is the one that got robbed? Maybe he is rational and realizes that this is standard procedure for race tracks to issue rain checks and not refunds. Does he even know you are on the forum spreading false information?

If the speed doesn't kill ya, the cost of the parts will!!

Member of this message board since 1997

You must not have been at this event because if you were you would know it was a 3 ring circus totally unorganized and a total slap in the face to every fan and participant. It was not a false statement on the pit pass end they marked them up 5 bucks. They were rude to racers and fans hell at one of the 5 driver meetings they had one of the officials made a comment about one of the top ascs officials that was totally uncalled for. The official on the back stretch was yelling and cussing at the mod drivers dropping the f bomb constantly. These are facts i witnessed them first hand. You get the heats in and im good with calling it a show thats the way it works but one heat race is not a show. They flat out stole from everyone as far as im concerened. Doug Bland and Jerry Hoffman said they knew the weaher was gonna be bad and so everyone else knew it also. So if they were so positive about the weather they should have called it in the first place in my opinion. The facts are they were rude and unprofessional period.

I was there and I did lose money. If you could call what they did a show, there would be no future to racing because all the fans would move to another sport. Running a poor excuse for a modified heat and calling that good is not exceptable. There were 4 different classes of cars and there should have been heat races ran for every class, or money should have been refunded. I know for a fact that my team will NOT be back down there again. If we wanted to waste our money we could just stay close to home and not worry about it. Even if they do run a makeup race, are they going to make it the same pay out? I would bet not.

I don't know what to say. Some of you clowns are acting like they called it an official race and didn't give you a "raincheck"...gee, I wonder why they call it that. You ought to be mad at yourself because you weren't smart enough to look at the weather report. There is no excuse for ignorance.

Remember the good old days where in the midwest we only raced from May to Sept? There was probably a reason for it and the weather still acts the same after all these years.

"Remember the good old days where in the midwest we only raced from May to Sept? There was probably a reason for it and the weather still acts the same after all these years."

I remember it well. The IMCA races at the Fairgrounds here in Lincoln pretty much marked the end of the season, as sad as that was.

But, nowadays every promoter is trying to get in the first and/or last race of the year. Sign of the times I suppose.

I am lucky enough to work at one of the best tracks 
anywhere.

Did you make this race.

I was there as a car owner what they did was WRONG !!

We also raced this race last year had a good time and was jazzed to see that it was going to be an annual race. This year, well it was not so good.

These guys just stepped on there toes on this one!

Last years car count was approx. 75, this year it more than doubled, that is a step in the right direction. And then they piss off a huge amount of people, not to smart if you are trying to make an annual race a success.

Some racers were OK with rescheduling to an UNKNOWN date some 4 months away, and others was not. So give them a choice, refund the pit pass and entry fee and hope they come support your future races.

Now, here are some options and facts on this attempted race.

They was NOT prepared for this car count.

Only 3 push trucks and 1 of them did't line up to the bumpers.

Only 1 speaker in the pits sitting on the concession stand that quit working early ,could't hear it when it was working, therefore drivers was unaware of a drivers meeting or hot lap call ups. (only way i heard of the drivers meeting is that i was in concession line )

My driver as well as many others never heard the meeting was even called up because it was not announced on a PA.

Not that they missed anything anyway, because it was a joke.

Told passing points line up, then not. Not sure how many heats, not sure how many transfer, not sure how many laps. Race scheduled to start at 3pm no line ups or meeting until 4pm. Uncalled-fore comments about an ASCS official.

I will tell you this, after an ASCS drivers meeting conducted by Tommy we all understand what to expect ! (some here-say about an ASCS race there in 09 ? They better polish things up a bit.)

Will we be back, not sure yet, we are die-hard racers with a bad taste after this one.

One more thing, we was never informed any thing about a rescheduled date or that the race was even called a rain out (although it was obvious) before stopping at the pit shack on our way out. Although in the end we were told that it was announced in the grandstands.

I guess a working pa system would be good.

This was not a down pour, somebody could have passed this info. through the pits knowing their pa was junk.

   elbows up...stand on it hard.., & get that win!!
             #22 sprint  Norman, Oklahoma
                    Boomer Sooner

I have filed a complaint with the Missouri Attorney General's office. I encourage everyone that feels they have been wronged to do the same.

The information you will need is the address of the track: 2110 N. Westgate, Springfield, MO 65802 and phone is 417-863-0097

Here is the link:

https://www.consumer.ago.mo.gov/

I have also talked with the Better Business Bureau and they have a website to file complaints on as well: (copy and paste the below url)

http://southwestmissouri.app.bbb.org/complaint/new/

www.badmanracing.com

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OOORAH MARINES!

"Standard procedure"? You don't get out much...

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All of the post on the southwestmissouriracing related to this

topic, both positive and negative have been deleted. I read them

before they were deleted and the promoter attempted to justify his

actions with many post. I understand his position however this being

a unique situation he should have offered refunds to anyone requesting

them through the mail with proof of purchase (pit pass) Just imagine trying

to refund everyone that was there, both pits and stands when it's raining and cold.

Not to mention the cash on hand and/or checks required to do this. If he could have

rescheduled the event in a timely manner, say within 60 days, then I believe

most people would have accepted that. However, considering the winter weather,

this was impossible. I considered going, it's only a 3 hour drive, now I'm thankful

I didn't. Had I gone and the reschedule date next year didn't fit into my

schedule.....I SHOULD GET A REFUND!! I'm sure the promoters intentions

concerning the race were honorable, had the weather cooporated it would have

been a hugh success. I'm also sure that if he refunds all moneys that he will

take a hugh financial hit, BUT he needs to do a lot of "damage control" or next year

could be a real problem......So, promoter do the proper thing and give refunds to

all that request it.

WaDo, Roger