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& it would be a big money loser for anyone who didn't win the 50 grand

Calm down, my friend, National Open will be great race, great cars, wish I could go

But I just drove cross country & SICK of driving!

Have fun.... Go Posse!

Hah.  Somehow, I knew that would be your reply. 

Crawl, walk, run is how big events progress. Helping an event thru these steps would help save 410 racing, which right now, it could use.  Enough said.  Thank you all for the conversation.

"You will never know it was your "Day" until it's over"

If the (National) Tour is only INTERESTED IN THE MIDWEST MAYBE THEY SHOULD RENAME IT THE MSL!

I AM SURE THEY WOULD GET ALOT MORE CARS if they scheduled their bigger paying shows alone like they did the Front Row Challenge.

$70,000 on top for the three days looks alot better than $10,000 for two days especially with todays gas prices.

Actually, when the NSL put together their schedule, the intent was to work with tracks that were within a 7 hour drive from Knoxville.  Grand Forks and Fargo don't fall in to that radius. So bringing up Fairmont has no merit. Plus, Grand Forks and Fargo drivers seldom go elsewhere. Even Dobmeier isn't travelling like he was. So I think it's safe to say that no ones toes where stepped on by running the NSL event at Fairmont!

Even though they are far apart Lasoski said one of his main goals was to win the National Open,Dollansky came in last year on his own,Brown came in two years ago but claimed he lost money and Lynton Jeffries has come East many times its been a few years for T Mac same as Brown you wont lose money if you run good

Why did THEY PAY BONUS MONEY TO THE TOP Pa. and Cal. finishers at the FRC.

I don't think you have any authority to decide whether my post has merit or not, it's simply an opinion - just like yours is.  The simple fact is, the NSL show at Fairmont did conflict with the WoO show in GF because drivers who are MEMBERS of the NSL had to choose.  I know for a fact that both Dobs and Zomer would have been at the Fairmont race if the WoO wasn't running because I talked with them in the pits afterwards.  The flip side is you would most likely have seen Kaeding, A Mac, and Polyak in River Cities for the WoO show had there not been an NSL show - because those were the 3 drivers at the June WoO show at RCS. As a paying fan at the WoO race, it would have been nice to see a few extra cars at the show becuase the car count was a bit less compared to June. The NSL is looking at it a bit narrow mindedly if they only go by Knoxville as the center of the radius.

But I reiterate, I do beleive the NSL did an overall good job scheduling their events.

Because some Pennsylvania fans think that sprint car racing begins and ends with central Pa. They think races and drivers from other areas are somehow inferior to their believed Posse. I can't tell you how many times I've overheard someone in the bleachers at Williams Grove, Lincoln or Port Royal saying that if Donny Schatz raced in Pa he'd get his eyes opened or something to that effect. News flash, if Donny Schatz raced here, 30 win seasons would be the norm. Like it or hate it, he'd dominate. But back on subject, I think it's funny that some people are actually getting their asses out of joint because there's a race 1100 miles away on the same night as the National Open. Would I like to see Brian Brown or TMac come in here and race? HELL YES! But the fact is, the National Open has kind of a shitty purse for how “big" of a race it is. Yes it's $50,000 to win but it falls off heavy beyond that point. If it were a show the size of Knoxville where you stand a chance to earn a good chunk of change back even if you have a bad weekend, we'd see more guys from other parts of the country come in and run it. That's why the Knoxville Nationals gets such a huge turn out from drivers who don't live in Iowa or run the WoO tour. Every time your car hits the track, you're getting paid and quite well. I don't remember what he said exactly but I remember a few years back when Brown came in to run the National Open he commented about how lack luster the purse back though the field is and he's 100% correct. The fact is, if the NSL didn't race this weekend, we'd see the same field for the National Open that we're going to see anyway because the National Open doesn't pay well enough to inspire someone to drive 1,000 miles to come in and race at a track where they have far fewer laps than the locals and the WoO drivers do therefore, less of a chance to take home good money so who cares? It's good that those guys out in the Midwest have a solid series like the NSL to give that area's 410 sprint car racing a shot in the arm. That is good for sprint car racing as a whole and in the grand scheme of things, that's far more important than Central PA or any one region. 

Careful their might be a sprint car race in Alaska.. Don't schedule against it, or bunch of teams will not go!??

Other than the Dude, no one in the NSL would compete for a top 5, let alone a win. 

One other thing I thought of after I made my last post. I'm not sure if he would've ran the NSL race or not but no one mentioned the fact that Justin Henderson will be here in Pa running the Kreitz 69K so if anything, the National Open took a car from the NSL and not the other way around. Just sayin'.....

Might want to go look at how many races Justin Henderson ran with the NSL that wasn't at Knoxville, before you say the National Open took a car from the NSL,,,just sayin

You mean to say the Posse isn't coming to Nebraska for the NSL race?  Man, now I'm really bummed....  1100 miles, the majority of the NSL are weekend racers from west of the Mississippi.  You are kidding....aren't you?  LOL

Stan Meissner

Good point.  We had 39 NSL 410's at the Jerry Richert Sr. Memorial a couple weeks ago.  I believe that it was also the final night of the John Seitz Memorial Late Model race at Grand Forks and the Sprints were on the card.  If memory serves me Mark Dobmeier was the only one from River Cities who made the haul to Cedar Lake.  I believe Grand Forks is around five hours from my home in Forest Lake and Cedar Lake would be closer to six.  Ironically we had more local Late Model drivers there on September 12th than River Cities Sprint drivers at Cedar.  Chad Mahder, AJ Diemel, John Kaanta, Pat Doar, Jake Redetzke, and Steve Laursen were all up there on the 12th.  That underscores your point that the River Cities weekly Sprint Car racers don't travel.  Not much chance any of them including Dobmeier would ever show up at the Grove.

Stan Meissner

Justin won the Kouba Memorial UMSS 360 race on September 11 and the Jerry Richert Sr. Memorial UMSS 360 race on September 12.  The UMSS was a support class for the IRA/NSL 410's on the 12th.  As far as I recall Justin only drove the 360 on Saturday night and wasn't one of the 39 410 drivers.  Not sure what the status of his 410 ride is as I'm 6 hours north and out of the Knoxville loop.

Stan Meissner

That's why I used the words ”if anything" because I wasn't sure how much Justin travelled with the NSL this season. The point I'm making is, Henderson is from that particular region so “if anything" the National Open is taking one driver from the NSL race. Evidently that isn't the case so therefore, no one is taking any cars from anyone else which is the whole point of what I was saying. The fact that NSL has a race scheduled on the same weekend as the National Open shouldn't be a big deal nor even something being discussed because they're 1100 miles from one another.