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I also know 6 of us were going to Moberly next Friday for the NSL show there. That won't happen now, we will spend our cash someplace else and not supporting NSL.

This is my opinion.  No facts. 

I would guess the NSL drivers were asked if due to the rainout/swaplike conditions at Spencer resulting in them losing another race if they were open to the NSL trying to get another date in the same area for the weekend.  My guess is all drivers said "YES"

As far as promoting the ASCS National Race at Sedalia, it seems silly to use ANY drivers that are not Full-Time ASCS points chasers in your advertising.  (but that's just me).  Shouldn't they be advertising using Wayne Johnson, Herrerra, Jeff Swindell and Aaron Ruetzel????  Those are the top guys in the series aren't they?? 

Unless a driver/team is committed to the series, there is ZERO guarantee of a driver/team being in attendance until they drive through the pitgate IMO.  Even then, there is still a chance they won't be in attendance (a wreck the night before, the driver being fired from a ride and not having one, the team folding mid-season (it's happened before) are all potential things that could happen.

Seems like people think that a 410 Series should worry about what a 360 Series is doing and vice versa, if that were the case then The WoO and ASCS would both have about 10 race dates (midweek shows only) as they both are heavy on the Friday/Saturday dates during the summer.  These are businesses last i checked.

If I lived in MO, I'd support the ASCS race this week and the NSL race next.  If I lived in SD, I'd support the NSL race and support the ASCS the next time they were in my area. 

In the grand scheme of things, only 2 or 3 cars would have attended both and there is a chance that 1 or both races could still be rained out.  Neither race is really losing on car count and only those that think Brown, McCarl and Lasoski should be racing at Sedalia will be mad (but Danny drives where his car owner tells him to drive and Brian goes where his sponsors want him (my guess is Huset's).  McCarl is chasing points with NSL so I'd guess the point fund $$ will sway him (although I seem to recall none of the above drivers ever being too keen on the ASCS format of passing points, they would rather time trial).

Drivers have to make choices all the time. Run for points or money! You ought to be happt you have any sprint car racing to watch. Yes it does suck that some drivers will have to make a choice on which event to attend. That's life 

Please dont take it out on Randolph County Raceway in Moberly, MO as we have had our make up date planned for a couple of months now and have even let the promoter of the Sedalia race advertise at all of our sprint car races.  I myself will be a paying spectator at Sedalia to support sprint car racing in Missouri and hope to see all race fans next Friday night August 28th in Moberly, Missouri for the make up National Sprint League event.

Thanks,

RCR staff

I'm curious who is promoting the State Fair Race. I'm assuming they're the ones who went with advertising Swindell, Lasoski, and Brown. Between the three you have two former WoO champs, two Missouri guys and three Outlaw winners. Seems simple to advertise those guys as opposed to the ASCS guys. Not sure a casual is going to know any of the other names listed above.

Really don't know what the big deal is. The day after a confirmed date could always be a rain date. Everyone knows that.

 Oh we support RCR and will be there for the ASCS races Sept 5th & 6th.  Just can't support NSL after this move.

BC you know the facts? 

Keep It Real

Sometimes I hate to chime in here, but what the hell.  I am going to use my MSPN appointed voice of reason.  (For what that is worth.)

In business, life, racing, marriage, friendship etc. you are not going to please everyone all the time.  Period.

Perspective is an interesting thing.  Some see the glass half full.  Some see the glass half empty.  The choice is yours.

Am I disappointed that I don't get to race with one of the best drivers in the country at a half mile fairgrounds track (my favorites like the old Spencer, Sioux Empire, Jackson, Des Moines, Fairmont, Knoxville, Belleville, Huron, Rapid City - and on and on? Of course!

Am I happy that I don't have to make a five our drive to and from by myself (by choice) and be home in time to get my son Parker to shcool by 7 am Monday morning? Of course!

Are there things in life like schedules, and law changes and construction and DOT inspections and family and work that don't always go as planned that cause us to have to change our schedules?  Of course!

As racers and fans we should be supportive of the sport!  We are lucky there are two high quality races at two different venues in the Midwest this coming Sunday night.  There is plenty of talent that will be at both races regardless as to which one you choose to go to.

And my advice is to NOT miss the show at Moberly.  That place was BAD ASS FAST last year when we were there for the 360 show.  I would LOVE to see the 410's there.  They have done a great job with the track prep there and it should be a fascinating show!

Every racer out there is putting a ton of blood, sweat, tears and money into doing the best they can.  For someone to discount their efforts and the sport as a whole as a result of a scheduling change or the actions of a few people is ridiculous.  Get over it!

Go to the races, show your support and have a good time.

-or-

Don’t go to the races, stay home and check the internet every millisecond for results and then get on Hoseheads and bitch about how bad the races were that you didn't attend, spend any money, bleed, sweat or cry over!

The choice is yours.

MB

Rome wasn't built in a day......but they sure didn't
waste any time burning it down!

you might need to say this again, because there will be some on here that will not be able to understand it.. to me,,,well said !!!

Good point there Mark, but what happens when the Sedalia promoters take a bath because people don't show knowing the key names aren't going to be there, and there isn't another race next year? 

This could have been easily avoided. That's the major point here. I'd assume Sedalia picked a Sunday night to not schedule head to head with NSL or other tracks in the region. It's unfortunate they can't get the same respect back, and even more unfortunate it's three days before the event.

The fair race was always on Sunday as far as I can rememer.

If people were only coming for those 4 drivers, they won't be coming to any races next year anyway considering there is a really good chance those guys won't be at ALL of the races next year.  So either way, the track fails.  Might as well cancel it now from the way all you guys are talking.  No point in racing if McCarl, Dude, Brown, and Sammy aren't there......why support the local guys and ASCS?  Those names should have never been put on the flyer to start with.  This whole deal wouldn't even be a 2 page discussion on here if they weren't on it.

This may be the 1st time I've EVER said this.... But I'm assuming you've been to races at Sedalia. How many times have you been there with ONE class? Like it or not, you have to realize this show has been set up to lose money since they announced it. Turning their backs on the Late Model guys which filled easily half the pits wasnt a smart move to begin with. I sure HOPE this isnt a "make or break" race for them, because just as much as racers, I'm sure they upset just as many % fans as well. I still hope to be there Sunday night, and I wont be suprised if none of their advertised guys show up.  I'm sure the guys at Impact totally understand, lets not pit sponsors against guys as I've seen in this thread  SMH.

I haven't found anything in the form of advertising either on the MO State Fair website, or the ASCS website that lists the drivers being discussed here as committed participants. The drivers that have committed to the ASCS race (if any are NSL members) should indeed honor the earliest committment made, if thay allowed their names to be adverised. But as non-regular ACSC and regular NSL drivers, I doubt any gave an authorized committment with permission to use their names as a drawing card. Plus,his wouldn't be the first time a driver has fallen out of a prior committment due to a schedule change. The ASCS should concentrate on advertising it's own, and let any other drivers that show up simply be icing on the cake so to speak.

https://www.facebook.com/MISSOURISTATEFAIRSPEEDWAY/videos/vb.684687458315389/777005455750255/?type=2&theater

Well said Mark. Could not agree more.

Thank you Mr. Burch for adding your voice of reason, no matter who you are channeling.

I am lucky enough to work at one of the best tracks 
anywhere.

The problem for Sedalia isn't this Sunday's race. The problem is going to be the fallout from this Sunday's race. Most hardcore fans, that were planning on attending Sedalia, are going to know the situation and attend anyway. The casual fan is not going to know the situation, show up expecting to see the advertised Lasoski, Brown, McCarl, and Swindell, and when they dont get the advertised product, what do you think they're going to do next time Sedalia has a race? They won't attend. Sprint car racing in this area is hurting, in all classes. I was hoping this was going to be a much needed helpful boost to sprint car racing in this area. Was it going to be the cure all? No, but it sure wasn't going to hurt. With the NSL and Husets making this move, it's going to be another nail in the coffin. To the casual fan, it's going to leave a sour taste in their mouths for State Fair Speedway, ASCS, the advertised drivers that don't show up, and sprint car racing in general. Thanks NSL and Husets. Just when I thought i might be seeing a slight glimmer of light at the end in the tunnel, you just made it go black, again. 

Thinking about this a little more. It's not just a "woe is me" scenario. A move like this doesn't just hurt this area, which is already suffering, it hurts sprint car racing everywhere. If sprint car racing completely dies out in this area, it means less cars, drivers, fans, and sponsorship interest from this area, which would have ventured out to other areas for racing events. 

Thank you to MB for the post. If you can accept the way this has worked out without wanting to rant and rave and threaten a boycot with everything you have invested in the sport I would sure hope the average Joe could accept that a couple guys may not show up at one race or the other.

Also, as it turns out I am free Sunday night so I will gladly bolt a seat in the MB motorsports car and fill in for the Dude. Just hit me up on here to let me know what time you want to meet at the track...haha

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