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Topic: Bryan Clauson has apparently left Tony Stewart Racing Email this topic to a friend | Subscribe to this TopicReport this Topic to Moderator
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Runge28
December 17, 2014 at 11:33:18 AM
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Posted By: ractnirps on December 16 2014 at 11:19:15 PM

Find it funny that they are all the sudden out of money for a sprint car team that should basically funds itself at this point.

How many times does Clauson ball the car up? How many time does he not finish up front?

I'm sure TSR doesn't pay top dollar for the stuff they run. Companies would do anything to have TSR run their products.

They probably have enough extra stuff sitting around that shop that they could sell to fund this team for a couple years.

Truth is, Stewart only wants the best drivers out there.. and when the best driver out there decides to leave, we apparently see what happens.



only hires the best drivers.... Umm, Maybe at one time.  He now only cares about makin $$ I mean he has Danica effin Patrick driving one of the best cars in NAPCAR... Maybe shes best on her knees



pee wee
December 17, 2014 at 11:53:53 AM
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Haters gon hate Brad. Keep up the great work.

Sucks for Clauson. 



c4
December 17, 2014 at 01:09:47 PM
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Posted By: Runge28 on December 17 2014 at 11:33:18 AM

only hires the best drivers.... Umm, Maybe at one time.  He now only cares about makin $$ I mean he has Danica effin Patrick driving one of the best cars in NAPCAR... Maybe shes best on her knees



any idea what godaddy brings to the table? danica doesnt have the ride based on talent




vande77
December 17, 2014 at 01:43:04 PM
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Posted By: c4 on December 17 2014 at 01:09:47 PM

any idea what godaddy brings to the table? danica doesnt have the ride based on talent




$$$$$



csracing72c
December 17, 2014 at 01:50:56 PM
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Schatz is a decent driver............Harvick seems okay too..........Danica is the best female driver ever arguably, and I don't mind watching her interviews................



YungWun24
December 17, 2014 at 01:51:16 PM
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Danica = marketability. All the people hating on her will realize there are dozens of other drivers "more deserving" than those who currently hold the seat. 

From what I can tell she has improved, she's good looking, and has sponsorship. 

Hopefully BC ends up somewhere good if it is ouside of TSR. Every time I saw him in a winged 410 he was faster and faster. 


Keep It Real


Twenty8
December 17, 2014 at 02:12:02 PM
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Posted By: csracing72c on December 17 2014 at 01:50:56 PM

Schatz is a decent driver............Harvick seems okay too..........Danica is the best female driver ever arguably, and I don't mind watching her interviews................



Schatz is a decent driver.........  lol that right there still has me laughing !



revjimk
December 17, 2014 at 02:36:44 PM
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I hope BC stays in wingless racing, he's a special talent in those cars!



linbob
December 17, 2014 at 04:15:11 PM
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Posted By: needdirt24/7 on December 16 2014 at 08:55:39 PM

He didnt leave. Tsr shut down the usac operation down per ibracn



I do not know if TSR parked the cars or not, but it is very hard for teams to break even or make a profit with the small USAC purses that they race for.




c4
December 17, 2014 at 07:37:46 PM
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this whole thread reminds me of the chicken and the egg.



k-vill sprint fan
December 17, 2014 at 07:46:05 PM
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Posted By: c4 on December 17 2014 at 07:37:46 PM

this whole thread reminds me of the chicken and the egg.



which came first?



stab-n-steer
December 17, 2014 at 08:17:19 PM
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Posted By: vande77 on December 17 2014 at 08:15:13 AM

So, do you work for TSR and have access to their financials???  Unless your name is Jimmy Carr, I highly doubt it.

I have no doubt that it is very possible the USAC team was losing $$$  (most race team owners lose $$$ from what I've seen).  Brian Brown stated in the last issue of Flat Out that it would cost $1-1.5 MILLION to run one season with the WoO from a budgetary standpoint.  Prize $$$ doesn't even come close to adding up to that much and I highly doubt most team owners are gonna get a sponsor to give them $1,000,000 or more for 1 season of sprint car racing.  I'd guess that the WoO teams are breaking even at best (and that's with Schatz winning 26 times, no DNF's, and selling off old equipment at the end of the year to other teams).

If racing was a $$$ making operation, no car owner would ever get out.

 



I don't dispute that every car running today struggles to break even,(im also sure that the only ones that do have nearly all the manufactuers freebies) but that estimate must be a start from sratch number because it indicates that the overhead for a 100 race season is 10k+ per night, without any income?




puckzx6
December 17, 2014 at 08:23:03 PM
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A few years ago, TK said his budget running true outlaw with Roth was 4x that of his $250,000 budget to run California with some travel, so $1,000,000 full time on the road. 



runnin30
December 18, 2014 at 07:11:38 AM
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Posted By: ractnirps on December 17 2014 at 10:07:33 AM

Here is the assumption that I think some people had a problem with on Ibracn. Which I think is a total crock. This is trash jourmnalism at it's best.

IBracn: "I'm assuming that with the events that took place in 2014, the play money is limited right now and that is the reason for the shut down right now."

Why even say such a thing after getting another story from his "source"? This was 100% speculation and does nothing more than start unfounded rumors.

Saying what a "source" says is one thing ... but pulling stuff out of thin air is another. That's what message boards are for, lol.

As far as team funding, it sounds like some people on here do know the teams financials. You are crazy if you think he paid a dime for the powerplant that is under the hood. If this sprint car team was running in the red that bad, he would have pulled the plug a long time ago, like he did the midgets.

 



So you can speculate that TSR doesn't pay for engines, but IBRACN can't speculate about why Tony shut his USAC team down.  Makes sense.

 

Please keep up up the good work.  IBRACN has been one of my favorite sites for years.



vande77
December 18, 2014 at 07:39:28 AM
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Posted By: stab-n-steer on December 17 2014 at 08:17:19 PM

I don't dispute that every car running today struggles to break even,(im also sure that the only ones that do have nearly all the manufactuers freebies) but that estimate must be a start from sratch number because it indicates that the overhead for a 100 race season is 10k+ per night, without any income?




Remember, it's not just the racecar when you think about budgets, it's everything involved with racing.  Travel expenses, hotels, meals, carwash, fuel for hauler, fuel for racecar, engine refreshening, tires, wings, crew help, your shop expenses (most teams employ someone back at the shop to work on cars while the team is out on the road (that's an additional full-time crew member that local teams just don't have), insurance, etc., etc..

I have no doubt that when you put pen to paper, that it adds up to way more $$$$ than anyone realizes and I'll take the word of a team owner over someone on a message board every day of the week and twice on Sunday....




dsc1600
December 18, 2014 at 07:48:25 AM
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There's no way all of the teams on the circuit are spending anywhere close to 7 figures running the tour. I could see 7 figures as a start from scratch number, but that sounds like Brown trying to justify why despite having the team to run the tour, he chooses to cherry pick locally so he can run 2nd to Schatz at Knoxville. haha



highspeeddirt
December 18, 2014 at 07:51:45 AM
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Schatz is a decent driver. Lol. That should be post of the year right there. Just imagine if he were a good to great driver, he would really be kicking ass then.



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December 18, 2014 at 08:10:54 AM
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When Randy Hannagan was running the WoO tour several years ago, he stated in an interview that a lot of teams had a budget of $750,000 to run the WoO tour for a full season.  He stated he wasn't one of the big budget teams and it was hard to keep up.  He stated the diesel and hotel rooms took huge chunks out of the budget that people don't think of.  So I don't think Brian Brown is to far off with stating it would take a million dollars to run the WoO tour today.  


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Twenty8
December 18, 2014 at 08:22:45 AM
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Posted By: runnin30 on December 18 2014 at 07:11:38 AM

So you can speculate that TSR doesn't pay for engines, but IBRACN can't speculate about why Tony shut his USAC team down.  Makes sense.

 

Please keep up up the good work.  IBRACN has been one of my favorite sites for years.



The same thing happened a few years ago whith TSR and Levi Jones 



csracing72c
December 18, 2014 at 08:34:56 AM
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Posted By: highspeeddirt on December 18 2014 at 07:51:45 AM

Schatz is a decent driver. Lol. That should be post of the year right there. Just imagine if he were a good to great driver, he would really be kicking ass then.



I can't wait until he actually gets to the level we all know he is capable of...............





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