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Huset's is a gold mine. Well maybe I should say could be a gold mine. If the rubins could put in more money for the 410's, and bring back time trials, they might be on to something. Pay 3,000 to win and 500 to start. Could you imangine a Knoxville nationals at Huset's? Ohhh my. That gives me an adreline rush just thinking about it. If I had a crap load of money, and was gonna start a young kid racing, I would do the old Terry McCarl deal. Knoxville, Huset's, and everything else in between around there. Just seemed like yesterday that Donny Schatz was only 14 and racing there every Sunday. I never would have imangined how dominating Donny Schatz has become. It is amazing how many drivers Huset's has made in the years. Just amazing. If you have never gone to Huset's speedway, ya better do it. Chances are it will be well worth the trip.

Jeff

Dude83,

try using some periods or comma's. It takes forever to figure out what you are trying to say. You know where to pause when reading it because you are the one who typed it, it's damn near a puzzle for everyone else.

Ideas and thoughts on Husets and other tracks in general:

There is no reason why Husets can't afford to add $500-$1000 to the winners cut each week. Any track can, they just choose not to. These tracks have been paying out the same cash for 15 years, where at the same time admission at both the gate and pit gate has gone up. New revenue streams added to that (if you haven't generated new revenue streams for your facility in 15 yrs, then you need to get out of the business) there has to be new money out there to give back to the PRODUCT. The whole local race track operation needs to be revisited and overhauled. How is it that we promote them as professionals (Home of the Professionals) then we turn around and charge them (again, the PRODUCT) to race. This isn't the local go-cart and batting cage.

Even if they made the pay out $3000 to win, that means nothing, so for 99% of the guys, they are now only losing $40 g's on the year. Its a no win hobby. The system stinks. But at the same time, these guys aren't in it to make money. They know that going in.

Give them more tow money.

another thought came to mind. Increase the point fund. What is the point fund payout at Husets. You will see your car count become more consistent and grow if your point fund is sufficient enough.

Making newcomers start at the back is ridiculous too.

I guess giving away a few cars as season points is chopped liver.

I bet you would be unhappy if you were hung with a new rope.

As far as increased point fund goes, look at Knoxville, one of the best payouts in the nation, they are losing cars also, WHY is that?

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when you say cars, what are you refering to? A rolling chassis, just a chassis. Obviously less motor. Great but that is a sponsors donation to the fund, therfore 1/2 it's retail value. "can I get my money back, no we'll give you credit". Been there done that. How many golf tournaments have you been to where you've won a "jumbo driver" said to be worth $200 but at the same time is useless in quality and you can't sell it for $10 bucks to the guy beside you. (a metaphor) Same with the car fund. These guys are professionals, they have "their' cars. If they are good enough to be winning the points they are pretty attached to their current car/chassis.

The car give away might be your argument, and you believe it to be enough, but obviously that doesn't draw the counts. Time to rethink that one.

As great as husets is, it's tough on equipment. Many guys spend thousands there as the crashes are usually huge and the mistakes, expensive.

I don't have the answers, I know it is tough to run a business when it is weather dependant and only 1 to 2 nights a week, and if the promoter ups the purse then has some rain outs, is at a loss. A lot (racerguy6n, the grammar teacher, notice two words) of variables come in to play. But i don't think there are many jobs paying the same rate or salary they were 15 years ago, and if they are, the employees are looking to move.

Maybe get rid of the $10000 to win Gold Cup and spread it out over the summer.

what are we looking for?

1. Better pay out to draw established veteran drivers from knox?
2. Better pay out to entice other division drivers to move up?
3. Better pay out to entice more owners?

Is a 20 car field with 5 "get in the ways" better than the current 15.? Or are we all expecting all of a sudden 5 top calibre guys to make the trek each week?

According to Ralph Shaheen, guys race for the trophy, not the money. So problem solved, spend an extra 100 bucks and buy a taller trophy for the winner.

If Husets is doing such a miserable job in your opinion, I must ask WHY do you still go there?

The only thing to do when a promoter is screwing you is to get even with him, build your own track across the street from him and pay huge money and run the greedy bastards out of business.

That will teach them a thing or two!

BTW, Can you show me ANY amateur sport where the owner can ever make more money from winnings than he spends?

The WoO owners can't do it, the NAPCAR owners can't do it.

A golfer can't do it, a softball player can't do it.

Sporting events are a PAY to PLAY deal, if you can't afford it, go to a sport that costs less, don't bitch and complain, it just makes a person look stupid to complain yet continue the sport.

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$10k Gold Cup? Wow, you are old school. I don't care what kind of trophy is up for grabs. Don't think for one minute if you couldn't at least cover your losses, you shouldn't race. That's just good business. Back Gate Promoting is what Huset's have done best over the years, but they still get the butts in the stands. I guess if the animals will eat shit, feed 'em shit.

Savage

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feed them shit and make em pay for it, what a deal lol

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nodust, relax you're gonna hurt yourself typing so hard.

The original question was "why does husets not get more 410's". These are my suggestions as to why. Not once did I say husets was so bad.

calm down, great your guy won a car. Good for you and him.

Thanks for your support.

maybe this is an example of why. Maybe other guys like Dave have come to the same conclusion.

I never thought I would be saying this but the 17 team is done for good. After two engine problems in a month, the second being worse than originally thought, I cannot afford to get back out this year. And after some number crunching and a lot of thinking I have decided to hang it up for good.
I don't want to plead poverty but the cost of running is definitely a huge factor. Since I started racing pit passes have more than doubled and the price of gas has more than tripled, cars and tires aren't cheap either! Too bad the payouts haven't kept pace.
I need to thank Blair Macdonald, Chris Egeland, Dave Verplaetse, and my dad Sig for all the time and effort they have put into this team. Without Blair I probably would have quit 7 years ago from being burnt out. Without Chris we probably would never have made into the top ten. Without my Dad I would never have made it out there at all.
As of right now everything is for sale. The trailer, 3 cars (including the new XXX), tools, and a ton of spares (most are new or fresh). I will try to get a list up in the for sale section soon but if anyone needs or is interested in anything let me know at (204)947-1253 or (204)794-7991. I am planning to bring the trailer down on August 31 and I would like to sell as much as possible before the winter.
I would like to thank everyone who ever helped me out over the years especially Bob Martin, John Egeland, Gary Bridgeford, Jason & Skinny Linnel, Scott & Tom Mcdonald & Andy, and Reese & the K9 crew. I also need to thank the best sprint car fans around; Brian, Gordy, and Ryan. Diehards who always had something nice to say no matter how bad I stunk it up on the track!
Sorry for the long rant, good luck to everyone. See ya at the races, save a beer for me.

Dave Sobczak

#17 NOSA Sprint Car

Well, it's been proven time and again, that effing with Time trials or draw, Hoosier or McCreary generally has NOTHING to do with the lack of 410's at Husets. IT IS THE PAY!!!!

If we really want to see the situation improve, since as has already been pointed out, the Rubins haven't and will NEVER figure out that 2007 racers should be racing for more than a 1992 purse, as fans WE need to reach in our pockets and give some extra $$ to the racers.

It worked, at least for a while with the #55/Billy Alley team. (Thanks Sneakers Lounge)

Get yourself and 4 of your buddies to pony up $40 a week and give an extra $200 or more apperance money to Clint Garner, Alley, Scott Winters or whoever you would like to see there more often. Go to the first 2 or 3 shows at K-Ville next year and run the idea past Lynton Jeffrey or Dennis Moore Jr or someone else that used to run Husets fairly regularly. You could also run the idea of fan generated appearance money past guys that live a bit closer to Sioux Falls like Seth Brahmer, Jack Dover & Ryan Anderson. Also to a couple of racers to the North that have some Huset's experience-Chuck Swenson & Natalie Sather. Maybe a couple of NOSA regs like Casey Mack & Shane Roemeling will show up more often.You get a decent amount of these drivers to show up along with Snake, Zomer, John Miller, Shane Spurlock, Ryan Bickett and Furby's #5 car and 2008 would be decent.

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"Well, it's been proven time and again, that effing with Time trials or draw, Hoosier or McCreary generally has NOTHING to do with the lack of 410's at Husets. IT IS THE PAY!!!!"

You got that right. If you don't finish in the top 3 in the feature, you might as well stay home.

Increasing the purse at the back end is the first step in my opinion. Fans do want to see heat races that matter, so you need to attract more cars to make that happen.

More fans in the stands also helps, as sponsors are more likely to spend a few bucks to put their name in front of 2500 people instead of 1200 in the grand stand.

Atmosphere is another part of the equation. Fans are more likely to show up when there is an atmosphere of excitement. I have never been to Husets, but I have been to many tracks that just lack energy. I have seen racing go backwards in this regards in the past 20 years. Promoters seem to have given up on selling their show anymore, now it's just open the gates and hope that your mini-stock drivers bring a big family.

I think every promoter in America should take a night off, fly to Winston-Salem NC, and catch a show at Bowman-Gray Stadium. The racing on track is possibly the worst I have ever seen, the track is slow and you cannot fit a modified 2 wide unless 2 tires are in the infield. Despite this, I believe the claims that there are 10,000 fans there weekly. It is packed and it has an atmosphere you can't believe. For bad racing.

Too many promotors just run their track and think they are doing everything they can do. Many would be better off leaving the track in the hands of the pit steward and seeing what is being done right at other tracks. John Padgen gets it right in California, Williams Grove does a pretty good job, Bowman Gray does well, and Tunder Road in Vermont is another good one.

I would have to agree that the Rubins don't pay enough. Look at all their tracks........Rock Rapids, their 360 car count average probly 10 if LUCKY.........Lake County, same or less.........Huset's, 410's maybe 14 average from the beginning of the year. As for the rest of the classes at the Rubin's tracks......their car count is below average compared with other tracks such as Worthington, Slayton, Fairmont, even Jackson, MN!! Huset's is such a joke with the car counts at the end of this season, that I don't know why fans pay to watch 9 410's???? What an insult! And from a driver's point of view, what an insult for such a low pay scale when compared to Knoxville and their point fund and the tracks out in PA!