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TMac #24
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March 18, 2013 at 06:35:43 AM
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I enjoy watching the Nationwide series way more than NASCAR if Im going to watch pavement stockcar racing. I think the racing is way better and more exciting.



maddog53
March 18, 2013 at 09:44:21 AM
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Posted By: opnwhlr on March 17 2013 at 09:32:19 PM

It is sad to look back and wonder how it happened, but when the made all the cars the same, the end was in sight

that ...and...the infamous "chase" turned many people off...I was one of them! Haven't watched a complete race since they started that stupid thing. All in an effort to cater to the cheese and wine folks they were after. Thought that would make it more appealing to them. WRONG!!!



Although I still watch, I stopped going because of the 'Chase' My last race was Vegas in 1994. It just took a lot away for me. I would rather have a guy win by 300, 400 points, then have to endure the Chase crap. It rewards being 'hot' for a short time, (5 time) rather than 'hot' all year.

maddog53
March 18, 2013 at 09:47:01 AM
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Posted By: trecraft on March 17 2013 at 11:10:29 PM

How about for some excitement, back to North Wilkesboro and Rockingham. They could pack them and be proud to show the crowd.



Some of the small crowds at races would be full at those places. I'd rather have 75,000 and full then 75,000 and empty. Bring them back.


kmart
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March 18, 2013 at 01:42:39 PM
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Posted By: WoOSprint514 on March 18 2013 at 06:26:55 AM
I blame it on the shitty racing and pointless cautions. How many times in the past 3-4 years have they thrown the yellow for a car that brushed the wall or because a driver who was bitching about to get lapped and they threw a "debris" caution. NASCAR racing isn't what it used to be and it absolutely sucks now.


Last years brickyard race was worse than Bristol. The night race in the summer still has alot of seats filled up.

 



dsc1600
March 18, 2013 at 01:57:06 PM
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The biggest problem with Nascar is the lack of drivers who make people want to buy a ticket. In the 90s, you had Earnhardt who was obviously your top draw, but you had legit 8 to 10 other guys who sold a ton of merchandise and had really big fanbases.

Now you have 2 or 3 who have that and there are drivers that are there who make people turn the channel (Johnson, both Busch's) when they win.



egras
March 18, 2013 at 06:51:08 PM
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Posted By: 2hnker on March 17 2013 at 03:01:31 PM

Shi**y racing doesn't help. I wouldnt walk across the street to sit in a suite at a Nascar race. I use to love Nascar but the IROC style cars, Darrell Waltip's endless babbling, and Danicamania ruined it for me.



The Danicamania crap doesn't really bother me that much. Been watching everyone drool over Dale Jr. for the last 10 years and he sucks too. The other stuff is right on the head though. New cars have killed it. Then, DW just makes me want to puke. I feel like I am listening to a hillbilly from 1925 talk about racing. Some of the crap I don't even understand. Why is everyone referred to as a "cat". And WTF is a gaggle?

Good observation




opnwhlr
March 18, 2013 at 07:51:04 PM
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The two things carrying NASCAR presently would be Junior and Danicky. I think they have something going with the various networks to always find a way to "plug" those two...even when they are not doing well.

I believe their TV contracts come up for renewal next year and it will be intersting to see what happens. My "viewing" of their races mostly takes place during the last 20 laps. I never sit and watch a complete race. Waatch Rosie devour a buffet line is far more exciting!


 
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egras
March 19, 2013 at 09:44:24 AM
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Posted By: opnwhlr on March 18 2013 at 07:51:04 PM

The two things carrying NASCAR presently would be Junior and Danicky. I think they have something going with the various networks to always find a way to "plug" those two...even when they are not doing well.

I believe their TV contracts come up for renewal next year and it will be intersting to see what happens. My "viewing" of their races mostly takes place during the last 20 laps. I never sit and watch a complete race. Waatch Rosie devour a buffet line is far more exciting!



The best invention in the world for Nascar racing is DVR. Hit record, go do something else for about 3 hours. Fast forward through the race until you see smoke. (not Tony Stewart--actual smoke) See what happened, then fast forward until you see smoke. See what happened. Repeat.

Then, fast forward until there are 30 laps to go. Grab a beer. Presto. You just watched all of the excitement of an entire Nascar race in 20 minutes.

(I must admit though, I have been watching the Nationwide races a little more just to see what the kid is going to do.)




BanditBen1
March 19, 2013 at 02:18:19 PM
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This message was edited on March 19, 2013 at 02:18:50 PM by BanditBen1

I really don't think what NASCAR has or hasn't done is driving attendance. More than anything, its been a fad to many & is just on the way down. The hardcore supporters are still going more than likely despite the economy, its the casual fan that is no longer attending. At Texas Motor Speedway, they had 200K+ folks the first few years the track was open. Then they got a second race date and the urgency to make that one yearly date was no longer there. Now they've removed seats and dropped the ticket prices in recent years and the crowds still haven't returned. Bristol, among others, just over built to meet the "fad demand" & now that most have "been there, done that" they're not coming back. Sure is more comfortable & easier to get in and out of a track when there are less people there actually.




oswald
March 19, 2013 at 06:56:07 PM
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NASCAR wants to be seen as a main stream sport like MLB & NFL and not just a southern redneck sport. Then they have DW on TV talking like a hillbilly all race long. Never understood that.

sonoranrat
March 19, 2013 at 10:14:32 PM
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Not the economy, but the greed of the track owner and NASCAR. Compare ticket prices of 10 years ago and today. Far exceeds inflation. Track owners and NASCAR have severely injured the golden goose.



dirtdevil
March 19, 2013 at 10:31:56 PM
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I kinda thought the Campingworld trucks are more exciting to watch, besides not taking all day to try knock the doors and fenders off them.. Im sorry I like racing "racing, not wrecking, but asphalt stock car racing has gotten sooo boring until they start to crash sh&t up.. lord im sorry I said that, but im just being honest..




revjimk
March 19, 2013 at 11:21:50 PM
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Posted By: egras on March 19 2013 at 09:44:24 AM

The best invention in the world for Nascar racing is DVR. Hit record, go do something else for about 3 hours. Fast forward through the race until you see smoke. (not Tony Stewart--actual smoke) See what happened, then fast forward until you see smoke. See what happened. Repeat.

Then, fast forward until there are 30 laps to go. Grab a beer. Presto. You just watched all of the excitement of an entire Nascar race in 20 minutes.

(I must admit though, I have been watching the Nationwide races a little more just to see what the kid is going to do.)




Exactly!



Some Guy In Texas
March 19, 2013 at 11:24:33 PM
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I'm not sure what DW's moronic babbling (and it is) on tv has to do with the "crowd" at Bristol... but ok. Attendance at Bristol was 1/4 to 1/2 capacity when I pointed it out to my brother the Nascar fanatic. Agreed, I'm watching the Nationwide races to see what Kid Dynamite is going to do this time. The reason that I, a former Texas Motor Speedway season ticket holder for 7 years, quit going in person is because its freaking BORING. I grew up at racetracks of all sorts & 4 hours of Nascar is BORING. Passing is relegated to lapping slow cars that are 15 mph off the pace. Wow. Denny Hamlin is supposed to be charismatic? Not even remotely close. Nascar definitely tries to neuter drivers into being a Jimmie Johnson clone. BORING. Marketability overrides talent anymore. A lot of Nascar fans aren't brilliant... but even they see that fact. Heck... what sport wows you with intelligence in the fans lol? I don't help it I'm sure.

cubfan07
March 20, 2013 at 09:23:08 AM
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Posted By: maddog53 on March 18 2013 at 09:44:21 AM
Although I still watch, I stopped going because of the 'Chase' My last race was Vegas in 1994. It just took a lot away for me. I would rather have a guy win by 300, 400 points, then have to endure the Chase crap. It rewards being 'hot' for a short time, (5 time) rather than 'hot' all year.


Yeah, I'd much rather enjoy watching Matt Kenseth win the title running away while winning only one race all season. (2003) Jimmie has been dominate all season long and only gets better during the chase. The chase has proved to be very exciting over the years. You must be a fairboard member


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maddog53
March 20, 2013 at 03:36:00 PM
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Posted By: cubfan07 on March 20 2013 at 09:23:08 AM

Yeah, I'd much rather enjoy watching Matt Kenseth win the title running away while winning only one race all season. (2003) Jimmie has been dominate all season long and only gets better during the chase. The chase has proved to be very exciting over the years. You must be a fairboard member



It rewarded a guy for a full season, not just tuning up for the last 10. I'll stick with my original thought....A guy running away with it didn't happen every year.... You are a Cub fan so I should have just ignored your reply.

egras
March 20, 2013 at 06:02:14 PM
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Posted By: maddog53 on March 20 2013 at 03:36:00 PM
It rewarded a guy for a full season, not just tuning up for the last 10. I'll stick with my original thought....A guy running away with it didn't happen every year.... You are a Cub fan so I should have just ignored your reply.


I'm a Cub fan too and it's hard to watch someone run away with the championship like we do every year. Maybe if they reset the points in baseball at the end of August for us? No, wouldn't matter. We can't win in Sept. either!





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